Another horrific incident: a old man burned alive because of qabiil The situation in southern Somalia is getting worse.

[Devilsadvocate]

Using a tragedy to fkd this was one weird thread

yeah that moosaid guy is extremely weird. I’ve now noticed what he’s doing.

 

[The Oponian Guild]

Qabyaalad is ok for you because you live in gobol majerteen kaliya Thats not qabyaalad thats just a community you have no dagaal between other clans because you have no other clans. Same with somaliland 1 clan. They have no need to remove clans because they re all one big extended family

The south has qabyaalada xaqqa thats why this stuff happens. Thats why qabyaalad is bad

Alhamdulilah I was born a puntlander

 

[The Oponian Guild]

Qabyaalad is ok for you because you live in gobol majerteen kaliya Thats not qabyaalad thats just a community you have no dagaal between other clans because you have no other clans. Same with somaliland 1 clan. They have no need to remove clans because they re all one big extended family

The south has qabyaalada xaqqa thats why this stuff happens. Thats why qabyaalad is bad

Just because the south can’t control its qabyalad mechanisms means all somali have to ditch Qabyalad? No sir!

 

[The Oponian Guild]

sorry to go off on a tangent but Wanlaweyn is a deeply historical place, it’s where we produced the first somali version of Tammany Hall.

 

[cunug3aad]

Just because the south can’t control its qabyalad mechanisms means all somali have to ditch Qabyalad? No sir!

I dont see the issue you have with ditching it you dont even have anyone in your state to be tribalist against

 

[TheLand]

@moosaid has a hilarious story about how one time he was in Morocco and an elderly Morrocan lectured his family about how great Siyaad Barre was and they had to sit quietly and hear an ajnabi praise the greatness of faqash far away from Somalia while on vacation

 

[The Oponian Guild]

I dont see the issue you have with ditching it you dont even have anyone in your state to be tribalist against

Puntland isn’t home just to us. Many clans live with us in peace and prosperity. We thank Allah for bestowing us with this peaceful land and producing among us, elders whose wisdom and intellect is unmatched in the Horn of Africa.

 

[The Oponian Guild]

@moosaid has a hilarious story about how one time he was in Morocco and an elderly Morrocan lectured his family about how great Siyaad Barre was and they had to sit quietly and hear an ajnabi praise the greatness of faqash far away from Somalia while on vacation

“But but brathar…he kill many idoor 3 million brathar!”

 

[TheLand]

“But but brathar…he kill many idoor 3 million brathar!”

They were too scared to speak. Moosaid and his family just sat there in a foreign land on the train ayago gafuurka taagaya

 

[cunug3aad]

Puntland isn’t home just to us. Many clans live with us in peace and prosperity. We thank Allah for bestowing us with this peaceful land and producing among us, elders whose wisdom and intellect is unmatched in the Horn of Africa.

MaanshaAllaaha all your communities at peace with each other. What a great example of what im advocating qabiils coming together and doing away with tribalist mentality qabyaalad. Didnt even have to give up qabiil identaty

 

[The Oponian Guild]

MaanshaAllaaha all your communities at peace with each other. What a great example of what im advocating qabiils coming together and doing away with tribalist mentality qabyaalad. Didnt even have to give up qabiil identaty

Qabyalad will always exist, but we start with peace and protection of one’s property. Then we build from there to justice and proper execution of the law, step by step yknow, instead of screaming “destroy all qabil!”

this generalising and emotional response holds everyone back.

 

[Shangani]

sorry to go off on a tangent but Wanlaweyn is a deeply historical place, it’s where we produced the first somali version of Tammany Hall.

do tell more

 

[cunug3aad]

Qabyalad will always exist, but we start with peace and protection of one’s property. Then we build from there to justice and proper execution of the law, step by step yknow, instead of screaming “destroy all qabil!”

this generalising and emotional response holds everyone back.

Ofcourse and i recognise the value of qabiil as identity and community. By building strong force of law though you can do away with qabyaalad completely ma fahantay it doesnt always exist

For the record when i say qabyaalad i refer to when the cadal is taken into the hands of the various clans due to lack of organisation. I say its bad because in this day and age the tribalist mindset shared governance causes is detrimental to the development

 

[Top J]

Whoever dies upon tribalism will be in hell

 

[caano_shaah]

Whoever dies upon tribalism will be in hell

yup, its pure jahilnimo and munafiqnimo

 

[The Oponian Guild]

do tell more

during the referendum on amendments to the somali constitution in 1961, the small town of Wanlaweyn which had no more than 15,000 inhabitants ended up recording 100,000 votes in favour of constitutional amendment.

This was more than the 100,000 votes against cast against this amendment in the entirety of the north, something which left the northern political opposition aghast. Western political observers compared it to Tammany hall, the famous democrat political machine which was active in 19th century New York and was mired in corruption + renowned for its brazen vote rigging/suppression.

It’s also why landers begun using Wanlaweyn as a pejorative to describe southern politics. Which wasn’t really southern at that time but that’s a topic for another day.

 

[Garaad Awal]

AUN! Burning civilians is disgusting. Somalians need to work to have create an actual govt instead of this charade. Or else the rights of the weak will be trampled upon. Blue Flaggers need to put more effort into that

 

[Shangani]

during the referendum on amendments to the somali constitution in 1961, the small town of Wanlaweyn which had no more than 15,000 inhabitants ended up recording 100,000 votes in favour of constitutional amendment.

This was more than the 100,000 votes against cast against this amendment in the entirety of the north, something which left the northern political opposition aghast. Western political observers compared it to Tammany hall, the famous democrat political machine which was active in 19th century New York and was mired in corruption + renowned for its brazen vote rigging/suppression.

It’s also why landers begun using Wanlaweyn as a pejorative to describe southern politics. Which wasn’t really southern at that time but that’s a topic for another day.

Was it the district or city yeah I've heard crazy but walwayan is massive on google earth now

 

[The Oponian Guild]

Was it the district or city yeah I've heard crazy but walwayan is massive on google earth now

The town itself. Wanlaweyn today has no more than thirty thousand inhabitants.

 

[Jaffar]

isnt that a normal thing in somalia i am not even suprsied