Ancient city found!

[horumar]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-40301959
@Geyusu harla are ancient hararis

 

[ሕጊ።።]

Why did they name it Harlaa

 

[horumar]

Why did they name it Harlaa

I don't knoww

 

[DuctTape]

I expected it to be an ancient city found in Somalia.
While this is interesting I can't help feling disappointed

 

[horumar]

I expected it to be an ancient city found in Somalia.
While this is interesting I can't help feling disappointed

This want part of Ethiopia, they only came in the 19th century, this is part of somaliweyn not Somalia

 

[DuctTape]

This want part of Ethiopia, they only came in the 19th century, this is part of somaliweyn not Somalia

You sure?
It looks like this city is just outside the Somali region, but only barely.
You have a point tho

 

[horumar]

You sure?
It looks like this city is just outside the Somali region, but only barely.
You have a point tho

The oromos moved in recently

 

[fardowsa]

Hararis are not Somali

 

[horumar]

Hararis are not Somali

So?

 

[Kezira]

Great Ethiopian history

 

[Opone]

I expected it to be an ancient city found in Somalia.
While this is interesting I can't help feling disappointed

Its In somalia, just not in the white mans borders.

 

[Apollo]

Africa is a nonentity when it comes to world history.

*Egypt is not Africa.

 

[horumar]

Africa is a nonentity when it comes to world history.

*Egypt is not Africa.

Somalia is not in Africa as well

 

[DuctTape]

Somalia is not in Africa as well

This is true

 

[Prince Abubu]

Harlas weren't hereri, but most likely a Cushitic people. Also 10th century CE is not ancient but medieval.

 

[Bahal]

Harlas were probably the ancestors of modern day Hararis. The rest were absorbed by Oromos and Somalis e.g. Xarla Koombe

 

[Prince Abubu]

Harlas were probably the ancestors of modern day Hararis. The rest were absorbed by Oromos and Somalis e.g. Xarla Koombe

Bro, Darood genealogy is about reliable as a brothers Grimm tale. I don't think we should use Somali clan history as a reference for actual history.

 

[Bahal]

Bro, Darood genealogy is about reliable as a brothers Grimm tale. I don't think we should use Somali clan history as a reference for actual history.

Somali geneolagy is far more fluid than people realize. I think it's pretty plausiable some Harla became somalizied and joined the clan of their allies, especially since Geri Koombe were documented to have played a major role in the war and conveniently there's now a Xarla Koombe clan

 

[Geyusu]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-40301959
@Geyusu harla are ancient hararis

Interesting. Apparently there is a local myth, that claims that the Harla people were giants. If that is the case, I doubt we were ever related to them at any point, because Hararis are generally short af.

 

[Grant]

Harlas were probably the ancestors of modern day Hararis. The rest were absorbed by Oromos and Somalis e.g. Xarla Koombe

I found this interesting:

https://www.revolvy.com/topic/Zay people&item_type=topic

"Zay people

The Zay are a small ethnic group of about 5,000 people in Ethiopia. They are also known as the Laqi. They live on the islands of Lake Zway, south of Addis Ababa, and engage mainly in fishing. The Zay language belongs to the Southern branch of the Ethiopian Semitic language family and is closely related to the languages spoken by the neighboring Gurage ethnic group. The Zay belong to the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church.

Local tradition suggests that the Zay people comprise three streams of people that populated the islands of Lake Ziway between the early 14th and the mid-17th centuries.[1] It is believed that the Zay people spoke the ancient Harla language.[2] The Zay economy is mainly based on subsistence agriculture and traditional fishing.[1] The Zay people cultivate maize, sorghum, finger millet, teff, pepper and barley, and raise cattle, goats, sheep, donkeys and chicken.[1] Island dwellers use papyrus boats for transport, while those on the shore use donkeys and horses.[1] Common health issues include malaria, schistosomiasis, diarrhoea and respiratory diseases.[1] The Zay people generally have limited access to modern health care and primarily rely on medicinal plants, although (as elsewhere in the country) environmental and cultural factors threaten both medicinal plants and traditional medical knowledge.[1]

See also

• Zeila, Ancient port of Harla based Adal Sultanate

References

1. Giday, Mirutse (2001). "An ethnobotanical study of medicinal plants used by the Zay people in Ethiopia" (PDF). CBM:s skriftserie. 3: 81–99. Retrieved 4 May 2011.
2. Braukamper, Ulrich. Islamic History and Culture in South Ethiopia. LITverlag. p. 18. Retrieved 25 June 2016.

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It says both that the Zay language is Southern Ethiopian Semitic and that the Adal Sultanate was Harla based with a port at Zeila. It does not necessarily say Harla is related to Gurage. Anybody have more or better info?

The Harla language is said elsewhere to be similar to the secret languages of both the Yibir and Gaboye. Any more info?