An Amhara guy wanted to demolish the Statue of Sayid Cabdille Xassan in Jigjiga

[FiftyPence]

nice nice nice, now send us some of your tribes men, let them fight for decades then we will talk,

words are cheap, action is what we need, lose a brother, a cousin, an uncle then we will speak,

let the habashi attack your father with a mine designed to kill him in his car when driving to an ONLF election than we will talk after his leg is blown off and 2 of the 4 ONLF candidates he is driving to his for an electron are killed, then we will talk,

talk to me when your dad has to resign as governor because he was told to hand over his nephew who fights for ONLF and chooses to resigns immediately rather than hand over his nephew and embarrass the Ogaden name and family name and a mine sent to his car and his friends afterwards as punishment,

until then i dont need cheap words, every OG/Absame family has lost people dear to them,

words are cheap to me son, specially from somalis who uselessly sit like xoolo and watch only us fight back,

You seem very entitled, aren’t all somalis struggling? Did you forget about the 77 war? My grandfather and I am pretty sure a lot of Somalis on here has their family fight in that war. Qabyalad iyo cuqdaad ka bax.

 

[Farjano-Walad]

You seem very entitled, aren’t all somalis struggling? Did you forget about the 77 war? My grandfather and I am pretty sure a lot of Somalis on here has their family fight in that war. Qabyalad iyo cuqdaad ka bax.

in 1977 85% of the army were Absame, the WSLF provided another 15,000, no evidence soamlis fought, MJ had their own little beef as ssdf, isaaq created snm, HAG was doing god knows what, the army was mostly OG/ Absame

and when said barre got Ogadeniya and told to stop, the MJ, the marehans, the isaaq and other HAG conspired and told siad barre a independent country called Ogadeniya is a threat to all langabs and so he told the Russians to f off and continued the war just to screw up, so dont even bring somalinimo,


besides, siad barre wanted to kill off top generals like caydiid and cabdulli yusuf and others and weakened the army as he feared losing the country to a coup, he wanted to kill off as many sodliers and officers he feared so he started a war

he refused to arm the WSLF and when in 1984 ONLF was created he threatened to kill them unless he picked the leaders him self,

the man was more trouble and had secret langab hidden agendas

 

[Farjano-Walad]

You seem very entitled, aren’t all somalis struggling? Did you forget about the 77 war? My grandfather and I am pretty sure a lot of Somalis on here has their family fight in that war. Qabyalad iyo cuqdaad ka bax.

of course i am bloody entitled, i have lost my won blood, my own family members and people of my ethnic group, the Absamiyan who single highhandedly died for the region ALONE since the British days and beyond

i am Jubalander first, an ethnic Ogaden Absame, a muslim

Somalis are my worst enemy after ibliis sxb , habashi come after

 

[FiftyPence]

of course i am bloody entitled, i have lost my won blood, my own family members and people of my ethnic group, the Absamiyan who single highhandedly died for the region ALONE since the British days and beyond

i am Jubalander first, an ethnic Ogaden Absame, a muslim

Somalis are my worst enemy after ibliis sxb , habashi come after

The fact that you said somalis are your worst enemy and xabashis come after shows a lot. I don’t wanna converse with you anymore. I am a proud unionist and I hope to see somaliweyne where each and everyone gets equally represented.

 

[Farjano-Walad]

The fact that you said somalis are your worst enemy and xabashis come after shows a lot. I don’t wanna converse with you anymore. I am a proud unionist and I hope to see somaliweyne where each and everyone gets equally represented.

the habashi shoots at me, i shoot back, he says hey the British forced you into Ethiopia in 1958 and super powers like the Soviets when you kicked my backside in 1977, lets share the country, i get billions in military aide

the somali wants to wipe me in Jubaland and tells me Ogadeniya is only 30% OG, he wants to wipe out my entire existence, this is why the somali is my worst enemy,

how many somalis back stabbed me and worked with the habashi? am i not a somali, a muslim brother,

so ***** your high horse somali-nimo,

get out of here with your pan somalinimo, go and build toilets and develop your tuulo, each man is better off when he starts bettering his own tuulo,

 

[Bashi]

in 1977 85% of the army were Absame, the WSLF provided another 15,000, no evidence soamlis fought, MJ had their own little beef as ssdf, isaaq created snm, HAG was doing god knows what, the army was mostly OG/ Absame

and when said barre got Ogadeniya and told to stop, the MJ, the marehans, the isaaq and other HAG conspired and told siad barre a independent country called Ogadeniya is a threat to all langabs and so he told the Russians to f off and continued the war just to screw up, so dont even bring somalinimo,


besides, siad barre wanted to kill off top generals like caydiid and cabdulli yusuf and others and weakened the army as he feared losing the country to a coup, he wanted to kill off as many sodliers and officers he feared so he started a war

he refused to arm the WSLF and when in 1984 ONLF was created he threatened to kill them unless he picked the leaders him self,

the man was more trouble and had secret langab hidden agendas

SSDF, SNM, and of all these came after the war. All somalis fought in the war from all qabils. Are you seriously telling me that 75,000 somali army that fought in the war 85% of them were absame? 85% of the whole somali army were ogaden?What bs are you spouting dude. As an ogadeni, you shouldn't have any cuqdad against MSB. He included your langaab ass qabil in Somalia politics after you were labeled as an ethiopian and a kenyan. Don't hate on the guy. You sure as hell don't know any agendas he might've had.

Anyways, I get your emotional state and what you've been through. But take it easy on your somali brothers. The hate you have for them is irrational. How are somalis worse than habashis that killed your family?

 

[Farjano-Walad]

SSDF, SNM, and of all these came after the war. All somalis fought in the war from all qabils. Are you seriously telling me that 75,000 somali army that fought in the war 85% of them were absame? 85% of the whole somali army were ogaden?What bs are you spouting dude. As an ogadeni, you shouldn't have any cuqdad against MSB. He included your langaab ass qabil in Somalia politics after you were labeled as an ethiopian and a kenyan. Don't hate on the guy. You sure as hell don't know any agendas he might've had.

Anyways, I get your emotional state and what you've been through. But take it easy on your somali brothers. The hate you have for them is irrational. How are somalis worse than habashis that killed your family?

kkkk, OG lanagb ass? its an oxymoron to call OG langab, kkkkkk, we outnumber all other somalis clans combined

you need to read some history, SNM was talking and making deals to create their group as early as 1971 in london, and SSDF were fighting siad barre politically as early as 1974/1975

siad barre sabotaged out of cuqdad, he ruined the deal and fucked up somalia,

Mj were against him, but it doesn't mean he did not have mJ in his cabinet heck even his son in law morgan is Mj and many isaaq were already against

so the fight was done mainly by Absame somali SNA and WSLF

and yes, a somali is more of an enemy even than satan himself,

he included your langab ass kulaha, warya go and read some history, from bardere to kismayo to afmadow OG had Mps and governors since 1960 when somalia was formed,

in fact said barre was a disaster to OG as he took bardere from them in the 1970s/80s and created gedo to give to the buuns

it seems like you need a bit of education on somali history, get the fock out of here with your BS

siad barre was a disaster and betrayed OG when russia told him wait and lets talk he refused and continued the fight against the ethiopians and went on to atack them even when russia begegd him for negotiations about the regions future

its why OG fought him in ksimayo and jubaland and made sure his government was destroyed as he raped and killed OG in kismayo

get the hell out of here with your nonsense,

 

[Abaq]

nice nice nice, now send us some of your tribes men, let them fight for decades then we will talk,

words are cheap, action is what we need, lose a brother, a cousin, an uncle then we will speak,

let the habashi attack your father with a mine designed to kill him in his car when driving to an ONLF election than we will talk after his leg is blown off and 2 of the 4 ONLF candidates he is driving to his for an electron are killed, then we will talk,

talk to me when your dad has to resign as governor because he was told to hand over his nephew who fights for ONLF and chooses to resigns immediately rather than hand over his nephew and embarrass the Ogaden name and family name and a mine sent to his car and his friends afterwards as punishment,

until then i dont need cheap words, every OG/Absame family has lost people dear to them,

words are cheap to me son, specially from somalis who uselessly sit like xoolo and watch only us fight back,

In all honestly, those qabiils who watched ONLF fight alone are xoolo. And they have the cheek to speak up today.

 

[tyrannicalmanager]

kkkk, OG lanagb ass? its an oxymoron to call OG langab, kkkkkk, we outnumber all other somalis clans combined

you need to read some history, SNM was talking and making deals to create their group as early as 1971 in london, and SSDF were fighting siad barre politically as early as 1974/1975

siad barre sabotaged out of cuqdad, he ruined the deal and fucked up somalia,

Mj were against him, but it doesn't mean he did not have mJ in his cabinet heck even his son in law morgan is Mj and many isaaq were already against

so the fight was done mainly by Absame somali SNA and WSLF

and yes, a somali is more of an enemy even than satan himself,

he included your langab ass kulaha, warya go and read some history, from bardere to kismayo to afmadow OG had Mps and governors since 1960 when somalia was formed,

in fact said barre was a disaster to OG as he took bardere from them in the 1970s/80s and created gedo to give to the buuns

it seems like you need a bit of education on somali history, get the fock out of here with your BS

siad barre was a disaster and betrayed OG when russia told him wait and lets talk he refused and continued the fight against the ethiopians and went on to atack them even when russia begegd him for negotiations about the regions future

its why OG fought him in ksimayo and jubaland and made sure his government was destroyed as he raped and killed OG in kismayo

get the hell out of here with your nonsense,

OGs had 8 mps in somalia 4 of them were in afmadow alone! we had defense minister before and after the kacaan regime. i have evidence of it

Electoral Distribution of the Somali Republic (1960-1969)

Electoral Distribution of the Somali Republic (1960-1969) Majertinia Region Town MP MC Alula 1 15 Bereda – 11 Bender Muranyo – 11 Berder Beila 1 15 Bosaso 2 21 Kandala 1 15 Eil 2 15 Gar…

operationoverload.wordpress.com

 

[Farjano-Walad]

OGs had 8 mps in somalia 4 of them were in afmadow alone! we had defense minister before and after the kacaan regime. i have evidence of it

Electoral Distribution of the Somali Republic (1960-1969)

Electoral Distribution of the Somali Republic (1960-1969) Majertinia Region Town MP MC Alula 1 15 Bereda – 11 Bender Muranyo – 11 Berder Beila 1 15 Bosaso 2 21 Kandala 1 15 Eil 2 15 Gar…

operationoverload.wordpress.com

and this was when somalia still had what, only 8 gobals/regions? since siad barre around the mid 1970s created today's 18 gobals/regions that somalia official has to this day

 

[Farjano-Walad]

SNM isaaq were highly organised and by 1971 were actually meeting and holding meetings in london, though officially not announced for another 10 years until 1981, SNM leaders met in london as early as 1969 to talk about how to do a coup on said barre

In retaliation for a coup attempt in 1971, Barre executed members of the three leading clans (Issaq being one of them) and has since institutionalized clan membership as the predominant feature of Somali politics. [ Ibid.] Barre has also reportedly promoted interclan divisions and in-fighting to maintain himself in power

UNHCR Web Archive

www.refworld.org

 

[Bashi]

kkkk, OG lanagb ass? its an oxymoron to call OG langab, kkkkkk, we outnumber all other somalis clans combined

you need to read some history, SNM was talking and making deals to create their group as early as 1971 in london, and SSDF were fighting siad barre politically as early as 1974/1975

siad barre sabotaged out of cuqdad, he ruined the deal and fucked up somalia,

Mj were against him, but it doesn't mean he did not have mJ in his cabinet heck even his son in law morgan is Mj and many isaaq were already against

so the fight was done mainly by Absame somali SNA and WSLF

and yes, a somali is more of an enemy even than satan himself,

he included your langab ass kulaha, warya go and read some history, from bardere to kismayo to afmadow OG had Mps and governors since 1960 when somalia was formed,

in fact said barre was a disaster to OG as he took bardere from them in the 1970s/80s and created gedo to give to the buuns

it seems like you need a bit of education on somali history, get the fock out of here with your BS

siad barre was a disaster and betrayed OG when russia told him wait and lets talk he refused and continued the fight against the ethiopians and went on to atack them even when russia begegd him for negotiations about the regions future

its why OG fought him in ksimayo and jubaland and made sure his government was destroyed as he raped and killed OG in kismayo

get the hell out of here with your nonsense,

Saxib you're speaking bs. In somalia, ogaden is a langaab tribe. You didn't have any political power, and were considered ethiopians, read your damn history. Ask your family about how ogaden were viewed. I don't care how early political trouble was brewing. it remains a fact that all somalis fought in that war. Those groups didn't have much support then. Don't tell me that few rebels in London means that there was no longer any soldiers from their clans fighting. Kulaha 85% were ogaden. I'm telling you that practically the whole somali army participated in that war, there is no way in hell you guys made up 85% of the somali army then. That's the biggest bs statement I heard.

You mention how siad barre needed to weaken the army and kill as many officers and top generals like adbullahi yusuf and cidiid. Why would he need to do that if ogaden made up majority of the army already? Those generals won't get much support since their tribes are langaab in the army. You also say he didn't wanna arm WSLF (another bs statement too since it's well-known where they got their training, weapons and supplied from), then why would he allow ogaden to be majority of his army??!!!

Also, Siad Barre didn't f*ck up ogaden on purpose like your cuqdad ridden ass says . What would make you think the soviets would allow Somalis to have the ogaden if they negotiated with Ethiopia? That sounds bs to me. By the time siad barre was saying f*ck off to the Soviets they were already supplying a whole lot of weaponry to Ethiopia.

 

[Farjano-Walad]

Saxib you're speaking bs. In somalia, ogaden is a langaab tribe. You didn't have any political power, and were considered ethiopians, read your damn history. Ask your family about how ogaden were viewed. I don't care how early political trouble was brewing. it remains a fact that all somalis fought in that war. Those groups didn't have much support then. Don't tell me that few rebels in London means that there was no longer any soldiers from their clans fighting. Kulaha 85% were ogaden. I'm telling you that practically the whole somali army participated in that war, there is no way in hell you guys made up 85% of the somali army then. That's the biggest bs statement I heard.

You mention how siad barre needed to weaken the army and kill as many officers and top generals like adbullahi yusuf and cidiid. Why would he need to do that if ogaden made up majority of the army already? Those generals won't get much support since their tribes are langaab in the army. You also say he didn't wanna arm WSLF (another bs statement too since it's well-known where they got their training, weapons and supplied from), then why would he allow ogaden to be majority of his army??!!!

Also, Siad Barre didn't f*ck up ogaden on purpose like your cuqdad ridden ass says . What would make you think the soviets would allow Somalis to have the ogaden if they negotiated with Ethiopia? That sounds bs to me. By the time siad barre was saying f*ck off to the Soviets they were already supplying a whole lot of weaponry to Ethiopia.

Kulaha OG is langab in somalia, dude we own an entire jubaland, bakool sare, go and learn some history, we have more gobals and degmos than any clan except for MJ inside somalia,

so now when i blew your silly langab bs out of water, you come back to somalia? OG has more gobals and lands than eley and every hawiye major sub clans individually, than isaaq,

cut the nacnac warya,

100% of WSLF were Absame Kuumade and 95%, not 85% of the somali army were Ogaden/Kuumade, i made a mistake with 85% since SNM and MJ hated siad barre and hawiye were banished politically and would not die for somalia, it was Absame and dhulbahante and marehan are too langab to fight or die,


sure a few foot soldiers died, from langab non dhulbahante and non Absame tribes, but they were looking for rice and water rather than have had the heart to fight, you get that in every army, stomach lead brigades, so what,


and yes said barre did stab Absame in the back when Russia told him do not make a move he ignored them, deep down he wanted soldiers and officers killed en mass as he saw them as dangerous, he had secret hidden agendas it was not out of altruism why he started the war, it was to kill the officer corp he was threatened by

i will curse the man like some of our MJ or isaaq friends in here, though i agree with me as he killed and raped somaliland and puntland and poisoned water wells

, but i am Absame, a man raised with classic OG daqan and tact, so AUN to the old man but his politically decisions and screw ups must be taught to the younger generations so we dont make it again as he was not whiter than white

and he did us a favour, Absame decided to rely on themselves from now on, no more shisheye amongst us no more, 100% only us lead by us and for us,

the man robbed Bardeere from cawlyahan and flooded their half in the 70s and gave the other have to buuns, he was ruthless, regardless, my people have respected, AUN, we do not insult the dead, though we should voice his mistakes in office, we do not atatck him personally,

you seem bent on said barre being seen as a shining knight in armour, are you a buun?

you seem like a maskiin kid born in the west, i do not blame you since i am destroying what your daddy told you,

 

[Khalid ali]

Colonel Abwaan Yuusuf Maxamed Suugaal "Yuusuf Dheere" Wayteen Absame.
Founder and Leader of the Western Somali Liberation Front.



Ambassador Abdillahi Xassan Maxamuud Jidwaaq Absame.
Secretary General and Leader of the Western Somali Liberation Front.




Minister Hussein Qassim Ogadeen Absame.
Somalia Minister of Mines and Leader of the Western Somali Liberation Front.

 

[tyrannicalmanager]

Saxib you're speaking bs. In somalia, ogaden is a langaab tribe. You didn't have any political power, and were considered ethiopians, read your damn history. Ask your family about how ogaden were viewed. I don't care how early political trouble was brewing. it remains a fact that all somalis fought in that war.

in 1960-1969 OG had more mp in afmadow than every MX district in upper juba. the minister of defense was OG.
nigga, siad barre didn't cut 1 region in into 4 so he could give regional hub to OG.
maybe you should read a history book for once.

 

[Bashi]

Kulaha OG is langab in somalia, dude we own an entire jubaland, bakool sare, go and learn some history, we have more gobals and degmos than any clan except for MJ inside somalia,

so now when i blew your silly langab bs out of water, you come back to somalia? OG has more gobals and lands than eley and every hawiye major sub clans individually, than isaaq,

cut the nacnac warya,

100% of WSLF were Absame Kuumade and 95%, not 85% of the somali army were Ogaden/Kuumade, i made a mistake with 85% since SNM and MJ hated siad barre and hawiye were banished politically and would not die for somalia, it was Absame and dhulbahante and marehan are too langab to fight or die,


sure a few foot soldiers died, from langab non dhulbahante and non Absame tribes, but they were looking for rice and water rather than have had the heart to fight, you get that in every army, stomach lead brigades, so what,


and yes said barre did stab Absame in the back when Russia told him do not make a move he ignored them, deep down he wanted soldiers and officers killed en mass as he saw them as dangerous, he had secret hidden agendas it was not out of altruism why he started the war, it was to kill the officer corp he was threatened by

i will curse the man like some of our MJ or isaaq friends in here, though i agree with me as he killed and raped somaliland and puntland and poisoned water wells

, but i am Absame, a man raised with classic OG daqan and tact, so AUN to the old man but his politically decisions and screw ups must be taught to the younger generations so we dont make it again as he was not whiter than white

and he did us a favour, Absame decided to rely on themselves from now on, no more shisheye amongst us no more, 100% only us lead by us and for us,

the man robbed Bardeere from cawlyahan and flooded their half in the 70s and gave the other have to buuns, he was ruthless, regardless, my people have respected, AUN, we do not insult the dead, though we should voice his mistakes in office, we do not atatck him personally,

you seem bent on said barre being seen as a shining knight in armour, are you a buun?

you seem like a maskiin kid born in the west, i do not blame you since i am destroying what your daddy told you,

Saxib you're still spouting bs. I'm repeating it for you since you are insisting on your bs. The whole somali army was fighting in the war. I'm not talking about WSLF, we both know who fought under WSLF. The whole somali national army was fighting in the war. All the divisions participated. Which means every single qabil was fighting for ogaden region. Where are you getting your history from? The whole somali army was not 95% or 85% ogaden, that's an absurd claim. I will also repeat my point. Banished politically doesn't = members of your army not participating. In fact, generals like aideed and yusuf were released from prison to fight for the army. Ogaden was not a majority in the somali army.

Also, you were a langaab in Somalia. I will repeat it for you. You status was that of foreigner or expatriate before the military coup. You were not allowed any political power.

Finally, whatever MSB did to you wrong, you know best. I'm MX, but I know no one is a saint in this world. You can hate on MSB for what he did to you, and have cuqdad but don't talk bs about the sacrifices all somalis made for the somali ogaden region. And act like ogaden alone fought the war. A laughable and absurd statement. But hardly surprising since it comes from a dude who claims his ethnic group is ogadeni

I rest my case.

 

[Removed]

You guys wasted to much time on this guy and should have left him to me or @Django

Warya @Bashi youve ruined a thread so tell me whos your aabo so I can report you

 

[Farjano-Walad]

propagandist @Bashi

Ogaden Absame was pissing inside Juba river more than 140 years before fake shithole a was created, i was fighting gallow madow in jubaland in 1820s


here is Ogaden pissing inside Juba river 120 years before zooooomalia

the Garre do remember receiving help from the Ogaden in about 1843, and the age-set Samouyia which was initiated about that time amongst the Darod Ogaden is said to have scored a notable victory over the Boran. Quite possibly some Ogaden remained behind after the razzia and settled to the south of the river Juba; only there is no evidence of a large-scale migration, and it is difficult to maintain that “following in the wake of the Gal la, the Darod Ogaden moved into the land south of the Juba between 1842-1848f. If a one-way movement only is envisaged. The Ogaden migration to the south of the river Juba,

i shit on your somalinimo fake tears, I kicked the wardey and boran and gallow madow from somalia's suden border AKA JUbaland and Conquered

what were your ancestors doing in 1840s when Absame was expanding and karbashing and conquering Jubaland from gallo madow?

It is interesting to note that when Yon der Decken sailed up the river Juba in 1865, he did not learn of any Darod living amongst the Wardai. The Ogaden were still to be found amongst the Boran, though their position had become increasingly difficult. The rebuilding of Bardera in 1863 by $heik Muhammad Eden led to frequent Somali raids against the Galla, until in 1865 the Boran refused to 2 allow the Ogaden access to the wells at El Wak and Wajir. The 3 Boran were at first defeated in the war that followed.

warya, Ogaden and Absame made the fake shithole country you call a, we expanded her borders, if it was not for us Absame, somalia would end around shabelle sare as her southern border,

Thus, when in 1881 the Zanzibar Sultan decided that Griumbo should be re-occupied and asked for assistance from the Herti, the latter refused and it was the Muhammad Zubeir Ogaden who offered their support. This action on the part of the Muhammad Zubeir Ogaden led to a bitter fued.

As early as 1873 Kirk had noticed only two distinct settlements of Somali around Kismayu, the Herti and the Ogaden, the two had been no more than the usual rivalry between them and on many occasions they had helped each other in their struggles against the Tunni. Now, however, their rivalry was based on a blood feud since Muhammad Ismail, head of the Herti, had committed suicide after being arrested by the Arabs and their Ogaden allies.

and unlike some, i will bring on sources,

THE PASTORAL TRIBES OF NORTHERN KENYA 1800 - 1916 b y Edmund Romilly Turton

https://eprints.soas.ac.uk/29105/1/10731200.pdf

dont dis Ogaden again, we will smash you with sources, white travellers were wring about us Absame and our history, we will fight you with sources, ones you cannot deny,

a langab will bark insults, we will not

 

[Farjano-Walad]

SSDF, SNM, and of all these came after the war. All somalis fought in the war from all qabils. Are you seriously telling me that 75,000 somali army that fought in the war 85% of them were absame? 85% of the whole somali army were ogaden?What bs are you spouting dude. As an ogadeni, you shouldn't have any cuqdad against MSB. He included your langaab ass qabil in Somalia politics after you were labeled as an ethiopian and a kenyan. Don't hate on the guy. You sure as hell don't know any agendas he might've had.

Anyways, I get your emotional state and what you've been through. But take it easy on your somali brothers. The hate you have for them is irrational. How are somalis worse than habashis that killed your family?

Sonny if you are gona debate me, get your facts right, where on earth did you pull Somalia's 75,000 men power in 77 war?

here is a military research institute report based on CIA data

https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a326941.pdf

this is a comparison between Ethiopian and somalia forces in 1981, numbers increased in 1981 but no where near 75,000 you claim, direct sources from CIA, bring me source and i will trust you numbers, barely a third of the numbers you claim when the war started in 1977

Somalia provided 22,000 men in 1977 as per source evidence in first image i pasted, and WSLF provided 15,000, who were all 100% Absame founded, lead and paid for through blood and treasure, so please do not take credit from Absame Kuumade

https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP97S00289R000200200007-9.pdf

 

[Farjano-Walad]

Saxib you're still spouting bs. I'm repeating it for you since you are insisting on your bs. The whole somali army was fighting in the war. I'm not talking about WSLF, we both know who fought under WSLF. The whole somali national army was fighting in the war. All the divisions participated. Which means every single qabil was fighting for ogaden region. Where are you getting your history from? The whole somali army was not 95% or 85% ogaden, that's an absurd claim. I will also repeat my point. Banished politically doesn't = members of your army not participating. In fact, generals like aideed and yusuf were released from prison to fight for the army. Ogaden was not a majority in the somali army.

Also, you were a langaab in Somalia. I will repeat it for you. You status was that of foreigner or expatriate before the military coup. You were not allowed any political power.

Finally, whatever MSB did to you wrong, you know best. I'm MX, but I know no one is a saint in this world. You can hate on MSB for what he did to you, and have cuqdad but don't talk bs about the sacrifices all somalis made for the somali ogaden region. And act like ogaden alone fought the war. A laughable and absurd statement. But hardly surprising since it comes from a dude who claims his ethnic group is ogadeni

I rest my case.

sxb your short minded, using the name Ogadeni is deliberately created, we Absame must show the world that ethiopia occupies an ethnic group and her land,

the problem in the 1977 war which said barre refused to refrain from was he gave the world the perception that Somalia was invading Ethiopia aggressively and taking Ethiopian land,

instead he should have given the world a perception that an ethnic group called Ogadeni had their land occupied, ethiopia masterfully used this against him and created the perception that somalia was invading to annex ethiopian land,

so this is our new tactic and hence why we have the name ONLF and dropped WSLF because the last thing we need is being associated with western somali, it gives the perception that somalia is forcefully annexing an ethiopian land,

but using the name Ogadeniya and Ogadeni blocks the habashi from using the "we are being invaded by the somalis" card trick

its politics dhee, agah,

names are important saxib, its why Greece demanded from Macedonia to change her name to North Macedonia so Greece will no longer block Macedonia to join the EU and give her the vote, because the Greeks have a region called Macedonia where Alexander the great was born in, and after a referendum Macedonia was renamed north Macedonia

we will avoid any association with the wild barberian somalis a and carry the ethnic name Ogadeni and ONLF to avoid the perception that aggressive somalis are invading ethiopian lands,

perception sxb, perception is sometimes more important than truth to the wider public,

then insha Allah once the land is free, we will call Absamia Kumade Federation Union, its our country, only we die for it, we will call it whatever we desire to call

so next time you ask your self who calls himself ethnic Ogadeni or ONLF, think outside the box, i understand your young and new to this