America will lose a war against Iran.

Yahya

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Dumb somali kids who have no concept about what a 800 billion defense budget can do against one's enemies.

America can send iran back to the stone age within a few weeks if trump orders it. And that's without using nukes
Who cares? the US will no longer be a superpower after this war,as it would be a long and draining war. China and Russia will most likely not get involved and will come out more powerful after this.

America bit off more than it can chew this time.

:manny:
 

VixR

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Iran is strong, America would win but it would be bloody; a textbook Pyrrhic victory.

It would a deeply unpopular, expensive war that would drag on.
Iraq is not a success, neither is Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, etc, these are all failures of US foreign policy. Iran isn’t comparable to any of the above. I don’t think a direct war will take place, but if were to happen, it would not fare well for the US the way these comments suggest.
 
Iraq is not a success, neither is Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, etc, these are all failures of US foreign policy. Iran isn’t comparable to any of the above. I don’t think a direct war will take place, but if were to happen, it would not fare well for the US the way these comments suggest.
The chance of a direct war is never going to happen, nobody gains anything. There'll be, however, increased attacks on US bases in the ME and Anti-American viewpoint will grow in popularity. Suleimani's death will be used for more political brownie points than a casus belli for a suicidal war.

I do predict that Iran will be the main power in the region, directly as a result of this.
 

Yukon_Niner

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They're not going to win but prepare for the royal fucking of the new decade.

Only arms dealers are gonna win this one

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Iraq is not a success, neither is Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, etc, these are all failures of US foreign policy. Iran isn’t comparable to any of the above. I don’t think a direct war will take place, but if were to happen, it would not fare well for the US the way these comments suggest.

A war between iran and america has only one outcome. dead ayatollahs. the americans do not even need to invade. just massive aerial devastation. Do you know what a stealth b2 bomber can do?
Ofcourse not
 
A war between iran and america has only one outcome. dead ayatollahs. the americans do not even need to invade. just massive aerial devastation. Do you know what a stealth b2 bomber can do?
Ofcourse not

The Americans simulated a war with Iran, and the US lost - see Millennium Challenge 2002.

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/2002-us-military-conducted-iran-war-simulation-iran-won-82906

While Millennium Challenge 2002 is likely a stretch and the US is more powerful and will likely ultimately win, it highlights that war between the two will be an extremely bloody affair. Most American allied nations in the Middle East will probably be destroyed as that's Iran's military mantra for war with America in the Middle East. It may even be a pyrrhic victory for the United States as the resulting shift in power dynamics may allow Russia and/or China to overtake them militarily. Russia is already close with a more advanced missile defence system in the S-400 compared to the Patriot system, 5th generation fighter jets that are of reasonable quality, and a significant lead in hypersonic weapons. A hot war with Iran is not in America's interests.
 
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Tukraq

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Who cares? the US will no longer be a superpower after this war,as it would be a long and draining war. China and Russia will most likely not get involved and will come out more powerful after this.

America bit off more than it can chew this time.

:manny:
How would that have any effect? All it would do is strengthen the US economy and give them even more area of strategic influence, Russia and China would be far weaker militarily if the don’t get involved as we’re gonna be in control of a border country with them in Iran
 

Tukraq

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Iraq is not a success, neither is Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, etc, these are all failures of US foreign policy. Iran isn’t comparable to any of the above. I don’t think a direct war will take place, but if were to happen, it would not fare well for the US the way these comments suggest.
How exactly were they failures? Yes they were unjust wars but with the gains US made on oil and in the military industry, while also winning the war I don’t see how they were failures
 

Tukraq

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The Americans simulated a war with Iran, and the US lost - see Millennium Challenge 2002.

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/2002-us-military-conducted-iran-war-simulation-iran-won-82906

While Millennium Challenge 2002 is likely a stretch and the US is more powerful and will likely ultimately win, it highlights that war between the two will be an extremely bloody affair. Most American allied nations in the Middle East will probably be destroyed as that's Iran's military mantra for war with America in the Middle East. It may even be a pyrrhic victory for the United States as the resulting shift in power dynamics may allow Russia and/or China to overtake them militarily. Russia is already close with a more advanced missile defence system in the S-400 compared to the Patriot system, 5th generation fighter jets that are of reasonable quality, and a significant lead in hypersonic weapons. A hot war with Iran is not in America's interests.
War would just ramp up military spending as further fuel the military industrial complex, US would be stronger militarily after a war with Iran not weaker, thus Russia and there puny economy wouldn’t be able to catch up
 

Tukraq

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The chance of a direct war is never going to happen, nobody gains anything. There'll be, however, increased attacks on US bases in the ME and Anti-American viewpoint will grow in popularity. Suleimani's death will be used for more political brownie points than a casus belli for a suicidal war.

I do predict that Iran will be the main power in the region, directly as a result of this.
I’m predicting trump starts dropping moabs like he did with Afghanistan, called it here first, hell later brag about dropping the largest non nuclear bomb
 
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