Ali dawah and andrew tate content+ the kind of audience he's attracting

[abayoqurux]

hes not a sheikh or ulamah you do realise that?

never said he was but he is someone who has influence on a lot of people

 

[Odious Delirium]

Men that follow red pill lifestyle mainly attract broken women, i say this because a woman going into a relationship with such a man, objectifies the man as just a source of money and the guy goes for the girl just based off of her looks so he can add her too his collection of women which is also another type of objectification, its just mutual objectification. Yes, don't get me wrong a man who takes care of himself is attractive but when a girl finds out its because of red pill, that would be a major turnoff, the only way i see a girl letting that behaviour slide is if she's getting into the relationship for the wrong reasons like the money, if the guy makes dough than the girl couldn't care less about how he treats her because she's using him anyways.

Yeah but it's also part of red pill philosophy to not tell the girls about it and this is where it becomes unIslamic most of them basically see the world as being objectified and objectifying. They believe a man is only valued by how resourceful he is to the woman and for this reason they ascribe to hookup culture where they pump and dump as many women as possible and never get married. They basically see all women as broken if we put it in your words.

I wouldn't however call women broken for wanting security and money when looking for a man since it's there god given right but I also don't think women should over look deen for money like many do within the muslim community.

Many young muslim men are turning to the red pill because they couldn't meet mehr/occupation demands when trying to get married so when they see this red pill stuff they feel validated since its telling them that "if she wanted to she would" "get your money up" "you don't look good enough" "you need to be bigger and stronger" etc

 

[TekNiKo]

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Ever since Andrew tate became Muslim it seems like Ali Dawah has been posting about him far more that he used to. Him posting Andrew Tate content is definitely attracting a demographic of young impressionable men who like to indulge into red pill/ misogynistic content and also its giving andrew tate's platform a lot of exposure to Muslims

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I watched most of this video about that saudi girl being called haram but i am yet to see Ali Dawah showing the same energy towards that Sudanese guy who lives a just as filthy life as that OF model.


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This comment weirded me out, like okay make dua for the Muslim Ummah but to question all muslim women based on that 1 saudi girl's sin is wrong, if I saw a muslim man today doing something out of pocket i wouldn't say something like 'What is going on with our brothers?' I would ask about the actual person instead of grouping loads of innocents together for the actions of 1 guy. The replies under that comment gave me more reason to make this thread cus the ppl under the comment started talking about how hell will be populated by women and how some dude was afraid to get married because he met 4 out of millions of normal muslim women that were only fan models, the generalization kills me, BUT WAIT IT GETS WORSE

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I remember before Andrew tate became Muslim, Ali made a video talking about how just because he may say some truth it shouldn't be a green light for people to follow or indulge in his content but now it seems like andrew tate becoming muslim has become a green light for Ali so he can post about him ignoring the potential harm it may cause to his young male audience.
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Another evil feminist hating on Top G and Ali Dawah. Women should stick to their own platforms like #filthysisterhood and stop sticking their noses where it dont belong

 

[Bundasliga]

Muslim men with manosphere 'red pill' ideology make me laugh.

Most of them come from cultures that have literally enslaved women, cultures that convince men that women are their slaves. They even have families that find women for them and the bar to appear as an eligible bachelor is at the earth's core.

What on earth are they looking for?

Just say you like male booty and go.

As you said correctly, they come from red pilled cultures & want to practice it in the west.

 

[ImanStan001]

Realistically no but that's not the point. The point is to go as high as you can by improving your health and how you dress and making an effort to make money anyway you can by pursuing a career/business etc
Also socialising and networking with people whilst picking up hobbies and interests just so you can develop an interesting personality that would attract a woman.

Most guys in todays climate are just wandering about aimlessly without any goals or are stuck in there rooms being anti soical with dry personalities and no understanding of what hygiene is. These red pill type guys or shall I say the manosphere gives them a goal to seek and how they should go about achieving it.

It's the same concept as aiming for the stars and you might reach the moon.

Plus you don't need to be top 1% to attract women most of these guys see results just by starting on there self improvement journeys.

I hope that gives you an understanding of why this is rising in popularity.

I understand and agree with what ur saying but I think they way they go about the wrong way .

 

[Odious Delirium]

I understand and agree with what ur saying but I think they way they go about the wrong way .

Well there's not much that can be done about that since this is a reaction. The only reason this is the way they go about it is because this is what women are receptive to. If women didn't want these things and didn't gain agency to be more picky and hypergamous due to things like hookup culture/second wave feminism/soical media then none of these guys would have turned to red pill ideology. All those things created incels and being red pill is there escape from inceldom. The red pill is the western solution. We have the sunnah of the prophet but sadly the muslim women have taken up feminism and its poisons and the muslim men are tooking towards the red pill and its vices when we already have the solution to our problems in the sunnah.

 

[abayoqurux]

Well there's not much that can be done about that since this is a reaction. The only reason this is the way they go about it is because this is what women are receptive to. If women didn't want these things and didn't gain agency to be more picky and hypergamous due to things like hookup culture/second wave feminism/soical media then none of these guys would have turned to red pill ideology. All those things created incels and being red pill is there escape from inceldom. The red pill is the western solution. We have the sunnah of the prophet but sadly the muslim women have taken up feminism and its poisons and the muslim men are tooking towards the red pill and its vices when we already have the solution to our problems in the sunnah.

I find it hard to believe that westerners view red pill as a solution because looking at it from an Islamic point of view, the main role models that really perpetuate redpillnimo are worse than the average man living in the west. I mean Andrew Tate for example, sleeps around, drinks, smokes, owns casinos, a webcam business and an Only Fans Management, it's strange that they're always talk about the west being a 'failed' society when they're contributing to its destruction.

 

[Odious Delirium]

I find it hard to believe that westerners view red pill as a solution because looking at it from an Islamic point of view, the main role models that really perpetuate redpillnimo are worse than the average man living in the west. I mean Andrew Tate for example, sleeps around, drinks, smokes, owns casinos, a webcam business and an Only Fans Management, it's strange that they're always talk about the west being a 'failed' society when they're contributing to its destruction.

Godlessness and liberal principle in the West lead to people pursuing there desires. They are operating within the parameters of harm and pleasure. Hedonistic values is western values. The red pill says that the space people operate in is already a mess and out of our hands so instead of bumbling in the dark game the system to your advantage and tweak it to fit your own lifestyle.

Andrew tate personally doesn't ascribe to the red pill stuff at all hes stated that many times. He just talks on his own behalf for the most part so a lot of what he says actually contradicts the red pill talk and he has acknowledged recently that Hedonism is a blackhole and not having "red lines" is dangerous. It's part of the reason why he says he converted. he is followed for the most part because of his life experience and lifestyle. I would say watch his recent podcasts after accepting islam.

 

[Qeelbax]

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Ever since Andrew tate became Muslim it seems like Ali Dawah has been posting about him far more that he used to. Him posting Andrew Tate content is definitely attracting a demographic of young impressionable men who like to indulge into red pill/ misogynistic content and also its giving andrew tate's platform a lot of exposure to Muslims

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I watched most of this video about that saudi girl being called haram but i am yet to see Ali Dawah showing the same energy towards that Sudanese guy who lives a just as filthy life as that OF model.


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This comment weirded me out, like okay make dua for the Muslim Ummah but to question all muslim women based on that 1 saudi girl's sin is wrong, if I saw a muslim man today doing something out of pocket i wouldn't say something like 'What is going on with our brothers?' I would ask about the actual person instead of grouping loads of innocents together for the actions of 1 guy. The replies under that comment gave me more reason to make this thread cus the ppl under the comment started talking about how hell will be populated by women and how some dude was afraid to get married because he met 4 out of millions of normal muslim women that were only fan models, the generalization kills me, BUT WAIT IT GETS WORSE

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I remember before Andrew tate became Muslim, Ali made a video talking about how just because he may say some truth it shouldn't be a green light for people to follow or indulge in his content but now it seems like andrew tate becoming muslim has become a green light for Ali so he can post about him ignoring the potential harm it may cause to his young male audience.
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He made a video on the saudi girl but not the sudani guy? At least one had a little shame

 

[Aurelian]

Andrew tate is exposing himself more and more

 

[Danakiil]

Top G is a kafir. Anyone who takes that idiot seriously needs to look in the mirror & revalidate their life. You really are defending a man who prostitutes women, own casinos, and is forming his own Tateism redpill religion.