Al Shabaab are stronger than the SNA

[GaradShabeel]

You think thousands of kilometres is constantly monitored by UAVs? Just Gedo is larger than many countries

The only time strikes happen is when there’s intelligence and no citizens. Shabaab use human shields which means no strikes anytime they bring along anyone

Why haven't the gov't infiltrated AS? Considering how AS got insiders, politicians and civilians alike, loyal to them in Xamar and FMS, you'd think that the gov't would at least one up them by doing the same and beyond. Yes, it would pose risk to anyone who dare to take on this mission. But just like other countries, make it lucrative and safeguard them as much as possible. I hope I'm wrong in this regard and a similar set up already exist today.

You don't need to monitor them 24/7, aside from their main hotspots. In this case, someone tipping the SNA & Co. in advance about their plans of a mass gathering would suffice in taking appropriate actions.

 

[bidenkulaha]

Why haven't the gov't infiltrated AS? Considering how AS got insiders, politicians and civilians alike, loyal to them in Xamar and FMS, you'd think that the gov't would at least one up them by doing the same and beyond. Yes, it would pose risk to anyone who dare to take on this mission. But just like other countries, make it lucrative and safeguard them as much as possible. I hope I'm wrong in this regard and a similar set up already exist today.

You don't need to monitor them 24/7, aside from their main hotspots. In this case, someone tipping the SNA & Co. in advance about their plans of a mass gathering would suffice in taking appropriate actions.

There’s many spooks within Shabaab. Last week they claimed they killed 5 people working for the government.

I noticed this year they’ve been doing that way more often.

 

[reer]

Why haven't the gov't infiltrated AS? Considering how AS got insiders, politicians and civilians alike, loyal to them in Xamar and FMS, you'd think that the gov't would at least one up them by doing the same and beyond. Yes, it would pose risk to anyone who dare to take on this mission. But just like other countries, make it lucrative and safeguard them as much as possible. I hope I'm wrong in this regard and a similar set up already exist today.

You don't need to monitor them 24/7, aside from their main hotspots. In this case, someone tipping the SNA & Co. in advance about their plans of a mass gathering would suffice in taking appropriate actions.

arsenal are more disciplined. youre making it complicated. a non khat chewer vs khat chewer.

 

[GaradShabeel]

arsenal are more disciplined. youre making it complicated. a non khat chewer vs khat chewer.

It unfortunately appears to be the case here, but with the latest momentum I've had a change of mind. Seem like many want them gone and thus an increased effort to give all in this time. However, it has slowed down now which to me is frankly rooted in nothing short of weakness within the leadership of SNA (& partners).

Despite the controversies of AS, one can not deny that they are more determined in their mission more than wage earners, many of whom are mainly there to make ends meet, without disrespecting those in the frontline. Hence, why macawisley, the locals taking up arms and risking it all, have succeeded more effectively than SNA.

 

[Pastoralist]

The politicization of the military contributes greatly to AS success. Some leaders care what tribe they hail from, even going so far as to ask officers training in our brotherly Neighbor Eritrea their tribe. Getting backdoored by the gov your supposed to be fighting for doesn’t help either. That reduces morale if anything.

straight up execution doesn’t do it right either. Rehabilitation is the best method, for a functioning state that is. Which somalia isn’t.

 

[FBIsomalia]

The politicization of the military contributes greatly to AS success. Some leaders care what tribe they hail from, even going so far as to ask officers training in our brotherly Neighbor Eritrea their tribe. Getting backdoored by the gov your supposed to be fighting for doesn’t help either. That reduces morale if anything.

straight up execution doesn’t do it right either. Rehabilitation is the best method, for a functioning state that is. Which somalia isn’t.

Puntland way is the best way.

 

[bidenkulaha]

Lol look at that thread^ a bunch of terrorists accusing the other of being American assets.

One guy Taliban/Al-Qaeda/Shabaab are American assets they’ll be used against ISIS. Other guy no you are the American asset being used against AlQaeda.

How about you’re both useful idiots lol

 

[Abba Sadacha]

Certain players or groups want Somalia to remain weak/fragmented, and AS aids them in this cause.. sad situation indeed. InshaaAllaah one day our somali cousins overcome.

 

[Shangani]

The issue with combating Al Shabab is that it's an ideology versus a 3000 BC qabil identity. There can be no victory until their ideological beliefs are effectively countered. To bring about lasting change, there should be no mercy shown to individuals with Al Shabab ideology, and it is crucial to implement public punishment and enforce harsh laws. Adopting a no mercy policy is necessary to drive sustained change. It may be a tough stance, but government agencies should have control and oversight over Khutbas, sermons and all religious events.

 

[FBIsomalia]

The issue with combating Al Shabab is that it's an ideology versus a 3000 BC qabil identity. There can be no victory until their ideological beliefs are effectively countered. To bring about lasting change, there should be no mercy shown to individuals with Al Shabab ideology, and it is crucial to implement public punishment and enforce harsh laws. Adopting a no mercy policy is necessary to drive sustained change. It may be a tough stance, but government agencies should have control and oversight over Khutbas, sermons and all religious events.

Puntland apply them so far and its active. Only South Somalia cant do it .

 

[GaradShabeel]

Puntland apply them so far and its active. Only South Somalia cant do it .

Help out your Southern people then Mr. FBI. Your intelligence and input would be valuable

 

[Dima&Damo]

Let's be honest certain clans needs to be exile

 

[GaradShabeel]

Let's be honest certain clans needs to be exile

Who do you think will accommodate them? I hope you have leftover landmass in your backyard

 

[Gaandheri]

Shabaab can be easily defeated in Somalia sense Somalia is a clan society and everybody knows each other.

You could spy, tap into there phones, send an undercover agent or just carpet bomb there territory. Shabaab is a never ending cash cow, and some Somalis, IC don’t want shabaab defeated.

 

[nanat]

Alshabaab is business with a lot of customers.
Main customer who use their services are non other than the top leaders, secondly aid/Halane NGO groups, 3rd Amisom countries, 4th major companies in the country who hate to competition or anything that allows another competitor e.g a functional state and the last group are civilians who they provide various services such as justice, disputes resolution etc.

Alshabaab is a criminal cooperation, they probably have a bunch of share holders who they share their profit with them

 

[AbrahamFreedom]

Al Shabab is the most powerful, most well organized, most sophisticated, and the best propagandist Somali armed group in all of the Somali lands. They can take over all of Somalia within weeks without foreign intervention.

 

[FBIsomalia]

Al Shabab is the most powerful, most well organized, most sophisticated, and the best propagandist Somali armed group in all of the Somali lands. They can take over all of Somalia within weeks without foreign intervention.

Before 2006 they try and fail .

 

[FBIsomalia]

Help out your Southern people then Mr. FBI. Your intelligence and input would be valuable

Its waste of time, we implement function goverment in xamar and they turn it to jungle.

 

[Dima&Damo]

Who do you think will accommodate them? I hope you have leftover landmass in your backyard

When i mean exile antartica comes to mind

 

[Aurelian]

mate you’ve bought into the spy-shit drivel 1) how can you differentiate from satellite what type of people are on the ground 2) why would uncle sam spend countless man hours scouring somali soil/why couldn’t they locate Taliban combatants and decisively win the war.

spy movies? Dude, they track every large military forces in Ukraine, can't they do that on half of Somalia?