I am studying and reviewing this from an impartial lense and trying to avoid to add any biases if I do let me know because all I want to get to the bottom of is the fact cause I am not going to ruin my reputation for a bias, maybe ignorance but not bias as that leads to competition only and your automatically dismissed as reliable unless there is 'chunks or parts' of what your saying that is reliable but your conclusion will be disregarded until you have proof and unless you criticize your clan your conclusion is 50% minimized at the end to someone who did because when two sides state their wrongs and their rights u can comparatively analysis what happened and measure it scientifically. Where-as when one doesn't state his wrong and only their pro's, it can be used against them as not impartial and therefore unreliable hence they really wasted their time like 90% of Somalis in society.
Now we know the liklihood of Marehan and HG ever ruling a strong Somalia is highly unlikely unless they present a very strong scientific case to Somalis and the World, we don't need to tell 'civilians' this as they may get very emotional and unreasonable as they do not understand the dynamics beyond clan based news and youtube videos of how good their leader or clan is and stuff and they are following the path of 'somali' tactics which is what gave us the civil war and therefore anyone who adopts this cycle the prediction is it will be another civil war unless they prove it scientifically then it's over and no matter what clan it is their model will be taken for Somalia.
Here is the pro's I found for PL. I will break this into parts. It's a complex matter but from what I seen is the following.
SSDF - Armed movement, they never killed un-armed civilians only govt forces, wanted to over-throw Siyad and most likely to create an interim govt that was military based like PL 1998 founding and then pass it on for 'elections'. This seems to be confirmed in our Constitution and 'axdi', Abdillahi Yusuf envisioned he wanted an election and a democracy. There were key flaws though like the jama ali jama incident who was sent from none other then 'HG' Abdiqasim Salat(developing heaps of pattern this clan which is the easiest to expose cause 'it's never positive outcomes when they have power or something political' lol. Abdiqasim then set up a 'centralised' govt in 'carta' meaning 'abdillahi yusuf' govt was irrelevant, he used 'hassan abshir' who he threw away when he didn't want to force PL to fight each other that's when he got that 'ali khalif galayr' who 'hates' PL and used that half bidood monkey @Jablibax to make puntlander kill each other for puntland over abdiqasim.
So their was a civil war in 2001 period. It was resolved and Puntland powered on. Would I have taken the same approach, yes. I ain't going nowhere near HG cause I know it doesn't end well because of their 'past' and their 'loot' and also they know the world will not deal with Somalia with them in power after what they did to americans, somali genocide, their seen as the 'hitler' of Somalia and their followers are seen like neo-hawiye-nazis. So their always going to be disempowered like white nazis are and they know this hence they don't want a government. If Hawiye Nazi is in power then all Nazis will be in power world wide, it's going to send of a trend for civil war globally in the end.
Only negative I find with PL they never fulfilled the 'democracy' vision. So it's highly possible in 91 The SSDF would not of 'gone' to an election due to some 'internal' issue(hawiye having isimo issue) and it could've lasted as long PL for 20 years with no democracy, But we would have had an administration but not a full democracy because even 'Garowe' had an administration in 91, because it's impossible to live without mamul. I know it sounds boring when you go to factory doing the same thing but it's a system, and it better then no system. PL may sound boring, not fun, exciting Somali vs Somali karbash news, but it's STABLE and from Stability u can move onto 'progress' like me assisting them in areas they need to target. Where do u start with GM except sit there and work out how to harm other administrations.
This is all I can see in terms of pros/cons of them. So their not best we have I don't think and I was backing 'Ilkajir' over 'farole' bank teller because we respect 'army' cause we from 'miyi' we backed 'asad diyano' also so it's not clan based bashashu meaning miyi love security experienced leaders in power. We don't respect gaas, farmajo, they should be in parliament, or civil lobbies giving policy advice. Look at SL all military men ruling, that's how it's done. They let their smart ppl focus on policy.
Majerten were not going around killing thousands of hawiye or isaaq civilians either. I think the world would've worked with PL led Somalia because like they do now even without full democracy maybe due to some undecided matter or HG element somewhere. It's not a perfect system but it's not what we seen for 30 years. Their would possibly be a-lot of angry clans like their are in PL today. I don't doubt that but it's stability.
I will follow up on Aideed and Siyad. But as usual you 'start' with your own clan, not someone else clan. I am very focused internally and only 20%(externally) because externally their is 1000s of Majerten who are doing that for me, why would I add more 'resources' lol.
Now we know the liklihood of Marehan and HG ever ruling a strong Somalia is highly unlikely unless they present a very strong scientific case to Somalis and the World, we don't need to tell 'civilians' this as they may get very emotional and unreasonable as they do not understand the dynamics beyond clan based news and youtube videos of how good their leader or clan is and stuff and they are following the path of 'somali' tactics which is what gave us the civil war and therefore anyone who adopts this cycle the prediction is it will be another civil war unless they prove it scientifically then it's over and no matter what clan it is their model will be taken for Somalia.
Here is the pro's I found for PL. I will break this into parts. It's a complex matter but from what I seen is the following.
SSDF - Armed movement, they never killed un-armed civilians only govt forces, wanted to over-throw Siyad and most likely to create an interim govt that was military based like PL 1998 founding and then pass it on for 'elections'. This seems to be confirmed in our Constitution and 'axdi', Abdillahi Yusuf envisioned he wanted an election and a democracy. There were key flaws though like the jama ali jama incident who was sent from none other then 'HG' Abdiqasim Salat(developing heaps of pattern this clan which is the easiest to expose cause 'it's never positive outcomes when they have power or something political' lol. Abdiqasim then set up a 'centralised' govt in 'carta' meaning 'abdillahi yusuf' govt was irrelevant, he used 'hassan abshir' who he threw away when he didn't want to force PL to fight each other that's when he got that 'ali khalif galayr' who 'hates' PL and used that half bidood monkey @Jablibax to make puntlander kill each other for puntland over abdiqasim.
So their was a civil war in 2001 period. It was resolved and Puntland powered on. Would I have taken the same approach, yes. I ain't going nowhere near HG cause I know it doesn't end well because of their 'past' and their 'loot' and also they know the world will not deal with Somalia with them in power after what they did to americans, somali genocide, their seen as the 'hitler' of Somalia and their followers are seen like neo-hawiye-nazis. So their always going to be disempowered like white nazis are and they know this hence they don't want a government. If Hawiye Nazi is in power then all Nazis will be in power world wide, it's going to send of a trend for civil war globally in the end.
Only negative I find with PL they never fulfilled the 'democracy' vision. So it's highly possible in 91 The SSDF would not of 'gone' to an election due to some 'internal' issue(hawiye having isimo issue) and it could've lasted as long PL for 20 years with no democracy, But we would have had an administration but not a full democracy because even 'Garowe' had an administration in 91, because it's impossible to live without mamul. I know it sounds boring when you go to factory doing the same thing but it's a system, and it better then no system. PL may sound boring, not fun, exciting Somali vs Somali karbash news, but it's STABLE and from Stability u can move onto 'progress' like me assisting them in areas they need to target. Where do u start with GM except sit there and work out how to harm other administrations.
This is all I can see in terms of pros/cons of them. So their not best we have I don't think and I was backing 'Ilkajir' over 'farole' bank teller because we respect 'army' cause we from 'miyi' we backed 'asad diyano' also so it's not clan based bashashu meaning miyi love security experienced leaders in power. We don't respect gaas, farmajo, they should be in parliament, or civil lobbies giving policy advice. Look at SL all military men ruling, that's how it's done. They let their smart ppl focus on policy.
Majerten were not going around killing thousands of hawiye or isaaq civilians either. I think the world would've worked with PL led Somalia because like they do now even without full democracy maybe due to some undecided matter or HG element somewhere. It's not a perfect system but it's not what we seen for 30 years. Their would possibly be a-lot of angry clans like their are in PL today. I don't doubt that but it's stability.
I will follow up on Aideed and Siyad. But as usual you 'start' with your own clan, not someone else clan. I am very focused internally and only 20%(externally) because externally their is 1000s of Majerten who are doing that for me, why would I add more 'resources' lol.