Agriculture land by country, Africa

[Idilinaa]

If Allah gives me strength this will be my plan to re-green parts of Somalia when im older Inshallah.

Reforestation and Vegetation Restoration is very important.

In many flood-prone areas, soil erosion worsens the flooding problem. Restoring forests and planting vegetation can slow down the flow of rainwater and allow for better absorption into the ground so you would be doing communities in Somalia a great favor.

 

[Idilinaa]

Regions shown are Hiraan, Middle Shabelle, Lower Shabelle, Middle Juba , Lower Juba



The town of Afmadow

 

[Idilinaa]

Regions shown are Hiraan, Middle Shabelle, Lower Shabelle, Middle Juba , Lower Juba

The town of Afmadow

Cool concept post i made to @Shimbiris for native agricultural town/village build out and landscaping.

I feel like towns like Afmadow , Jowhar, Beledweyne and others could fit this. They can use modern hydrological systems to redirect the water to prevent flooding and use it sprinkle areas around it

I also think another good idea we can have next to these dome dwellings or we definitely need to recreate the carrish and perhaps even the Mundhul somewhere else in the lush river areas or the green mountains. It be like walking through a native village. I feel like
Cariish would fit the mold since they are built to be multi-room complex.

I noticed that in Japan they have villages where they stil use tatched-roofs on houses, it's like a blend of modern and pre-modern.

Some articles on this how in the rural villages(tuulo) and smaller towns in agricultural areas they try to keep the thatched building style alive

Hidden in the hills, the Japanese villages where thatching lives on

In a nation better known for futuristic cities, a cluster of small villages is clinging to the ancient traditions of thatching

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Japan also deals with flooding as well in the rural country side similar to Somalia almost.

Where 850.000 where displaced in the southern part of the country

At least 2 killed, 850,000 people evacuated as record rains cause floods in southern Japan

Torrential rains caused floods and landslides on the southern Japanese island of Kyushu on Wednesday, killing at least two people and prompting authorities to issue a rare emergency warning and evacuation orders for nearly 850,000 people. Read more at straitstimes.com. Read more at...

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I am just showing this, to show that climate catastrophes like flooding can happen almost anywhere. It is most severe in the southern part of Somalia due to the flood plains of shabelle river.

Whats interesting is that the Japanese government built these temporary housing units called " kasetsu jutaku" in times of natural disasters and crisis, that they evacuate people into.

They also have ways to divert the river floods by allowing water to overflow into nearby rice paddies and retention basin areas.

Traditional Flood Control “Kasumi-tei” - Chikuma, Japan | Inspired by Nature-based Action and Solutions (INAS) -Showcase NbS

INAS showcases Nature-based Solutions (NbS) for policymakers, practitioners, and local communities. Nature-based solutions (NbS) are actions to protect, sustainably manage, and restore natural or modified ecosystems that address societal challenges effectively and adaptively, simultaneously...

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Kasumi-tei, discontinuous open levees, are one example of using traditional knowledge to reduce river floodings. Kasumi-tei reduce the impacts of floodings by releasing part of the flow smoothly through breaks between the sub-levees. Kasumi-tei form a flood control mechanism that have historically been developed to suit the topography and climate of Japan. The method of dispersing the flow to normally unused land or farmland when the flow rate increases is an NbS that has been nurtured over a long period of time along with the development of rice farming in Japan.

Food for thought, i'm sure there were similar localized traditional ways Somalis dealt with river floods back in the day that could be useful. But before the modern era it more than likely used to overflow into the farmland or basin and the surrounding greenery would absorb it into the soil

 

[Rayaale]

https://x.com/xysist/status/1936125899247665241?s=46

Kenyans shocked to see greeny Somalia, they think we are a desert @Idilinaa

 

[DR OSMAN]

lol, this is a recent thing. The Biimaal imported slaves from Zanj coast in the 17th century(they fought the Italians to keep slavery in the south), The North did practice slavery but to a much lesser extent, usually selling slaves in Zeila that the Ethiopian sold to the trade caravans.

Somalis are not pure pastoralists but agropastoralists; we worked our land and occasionally with indentured Oromo prisoners of war, usually women and young kids, who eventually got absorbed and married into the clan (women only). For example, in the Shinille zon,e the Gadabuursi, Gurgura and Hawiye practice agropastoralism but the Cisse who live in the more arid regions there are pure pastoralists, so segments of Somali society view it with disdain, but even within the same clans, you will have both.

Adam Two Sons were Farmers and Shepherds u know that, named Qa'in(Cain) the nomad or shepherd vs the good one abaal or abel in European world was a farmer. Well the good n bad traditions of two sons is highly in Abel favor due to agricultural communities worldwide seeing him as someone who was a hard worker, toiled the land, got very little reward from harvests just petty vegetables, and was loyal to God and had patience in such poverty.

Ironically those communities ended up creating xivilizations and community work spirit or village mindset.

While Qa'in was blessed with independence and freedom being a lone shepherd, has his hanti, has fruits from trees, doesn't need to do backbreaking work for little vegetable type rewards mentality.

He did develop more intelligence also as he had to rely on himself not have such big communities congregated in farming villages or towns. He was a Bedouin basically lol

He plotted to kill his brother Abaal saying he was weak, just toiling land and called him a slave probably and just following daddy adam instructions to work hard and allah will reward u but allah wasn't responding so he came up with the murder u see today and every evil vice mankind does has him as the origins.

His a Qa'in and u will notice Somali geeljires r notorious 4 it too.

 

[NidarNidar]

Adam Two Sons were Farmers and Shepherds u know that, named Qa'in(Cain) the nomad or shepherd vs the good one abaal or abel in European world was a farmer. Well the good n bad traditions of two sons is highly in Abel favor due to agricultural communities worldwide seeing him as someone who was a hard worker, toiled the land, got very little reward from harvests just petty vegetables, and was loyal to God and had patience in such poverty.

Ironically those communities ended up creating xivilizations and community work spirit or village mindset.

While Qa'in was blessed with independence and freedom being a lone shepherd, has his hanti, has fruits from trees, doesn't need to do backbreaking work for little vegetable type rewards mentality.

He did develop more intelligence also as he had to rely on himself not have such big communities congregated in farming villages or towns. He was a Bedouin basically lol

He plotted to kill his brother Abaal saying he was weak, just toiling land and called him a slave probably and just following daddy adam instructions to work hard and allah will reward u but allah wasn't responding so he came up with the murder u see today and every evil vice mankind does has him as the origins.

His a Qa'in and u will notice Somali geeljires r notorious 4 it too.

Cain was the farmer and Abel the shepard, you got them mixed.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Cain was the farmer and Abel the shepard, you got them mixed.

Maybe European and Mid Eastern tradition of Adam Two Sons not African tradition

Farmers are usually very community oriented, work great as teams like u see in the west urban or rural, very honest driven type of values always. Farming makes a person humble, maskin, and to be quite frank a hard worker with not much rewards in terms of monetary(cheap items) lol unlike Meat

But a shepherd has livestock, is independent, answers to no man or heirachy, doesn't play well with others or teams(that's why lots of Somalis work jobs with independence always like contracts, taxi, self owned business, etc), a shepherd is always moving also establishing no real roots anywhere and therefore not loyal to anything and is fluid. They tend to live in a harsh type of environment so it develops a harsh mentality.

Quran talks about these ppl being very difficult section the baduyin people ama baadiye ppl in Mohamed time or even can apply in all time or locations, its the shepherd way I think.

 

[Idilinaa]

https://x.com/xysist/status/1936125899247665241?s=46

Kenyans shocked to see greeny Somalia, they think we are a desert @Idilinaa

It's a lot safer now, and the flow of goods has improved significantly especially with the construction of a major highway connecting from Mogadishu. That alone has opened up access and development in surrounding regions.

They even think NFD is a total barren desert and as i've seen them regularly try to disparage us with it.
In reality it has two major rivers running through it, large stretches of fertile land, and dense plant life. It's also home to the highest concentration of wildlife in Kenya, with thriving populations of elephants, giraffes, and more.


So I’m not exaggerating when I say this: Somalis inhabit some of the most strategically placed and resource-rich land in all of Africa. People are just now waking up to that fact.

 

[Mohamedamiin120]

Bantus need to do better at farming since we're not food secure. That's literally their main function in our society.

stfu gng

 

[Fit~Prince]

stfu gng

 

[Idilinaa]

Btw, I broke down the food security and agricultural activity situation:
Most Somali regions today are food secure. Markets are well-stocked with both imported goods and domestically grown crops, and farming is widely practiced across nearly all regions.

However, commercial and export-oriented farming tends to be concentrated in specific areas like the riverine regions, NFD (North Eastern Kenya), and the Ogaden region.

The main area of food insecurity is within IDP (Internally Displaced Persons) camps. This isn't due to a lack of food in the country, but rather because these populations are economically dispossessed they can't afford the food that's available in the markets, which forces them to rely on humanitarian aid.

I’ve previously covered how Galmudug has transitioned toward self-sufficiency in food production. While they used to import from Hiraan or Shabelle, they now largely supply their own grains and produce locally:

Galmudug’s Farms and Progress towards self sufficiency

Galmudug markets rarely ever import food from hiiran and both Shabelle regions anymore. Local farms in Galmudug for the past few years with the support of Galmudug’s ministry of agriculture and projects sponsored by donors/World bank,etc, managed to grow all sorts of crop ranging from onions...

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Sanaag and Sool are also seeing an agricultural resurgence. Farmers there are growing more local produce


and they also cultivate extensively coffee and olives in the cal madow mountains now. So in an interesting twist coffee cultivation is making a comeback. But they are asking for better road infrastructure to deliver them to the city and town markets.

Coffee grows in Calmadow chain, Laasqoray District

The temperature is suitable for growing all sorts of things from Coffee to Qaat the community is a GDP maker in the making we must connect the mountains to the mainland. Deegaanka Mirci

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Somali coffee farmers vexed by poor roads and transport in mountain areas of Sanag

(ERGO) - Rough terrain and impassable roads are reducing profits for small scale Somali coffee farmers in Sanag region. The

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Puntland and Bari in particular they now produce most of their own crops locally when they used to import them from the south according to the agricultural minister

Puntland’s Agriculture Sector: Transitory Observations, Analysis - Puntland Mirror Believable Media Website

Historically, agriculture is not something Somalia’s state of Puntland is famed for nor associated with. Among Somalis, these are lands known as the country’s barren lands; its desert. There might be a grain of truth in that, as when compared to some of the country’s riverine Southern provinces...

puntlandmirror.net

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Aside from Bari farms, the extensive farm area he mentioned at the end on the outskirts of Garow is located near the southern river bed.

BEERAHA JIBIGALE | GAROOWE | PUNTLAND | SOOMAALIYA

BEERAHA JIBIGALE | GAROOWE | PUNTLAND | SOOMAALIYA

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I am glad they actually dispelled a lot of inaccuracies about Northeastern regions geography. I tried to the same in that agricultural land area thread

The big picture is this. Most Somali regions now produce the majority of their food locally, and markets across the country from Bosaso to Dhuusamareeb, are full of local food.

There’s no real shortage in most areas. I remember @Shimbiris mentioned when he visited Bosaso, locals told him it’s rare for anyone in Puntland to go hungry.

Gabiley mentioned in those sources today is pretty much the breadbasket of Somaliland

GABILEY SIGHTSEEING | Somaliland Tours | Somaliland Travel & Tours Agency

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I produces 85% of Somalilands food supplies.

Full threads:

How fast can we stop relying on Food aid?

Western-Somaliland has a massive intensively cultivated landmass and extending into Fafan zone. Togdheer, Sanaag, Sool, Bari, Western Mudug and Western Galgaduud I don't know how they could grow their food. I suspect these regions import most of their grain. Here there aren't enough regions...

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Could Somalia be self sufficient with Galbeed and NFD

In terms of agricultural productivity and food self sufficient @Thegoodshepherd

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