After rectifying Farmaajo's blunders on JL, next to rectify is Hirshabelle after the war!

[The Midlands]

Do you genuinely think XL outnumber Abgaal? As I said to Midlands, you guys are just lucky that the comparison in HS is even being made as Abgaal are spread out from Xamar to Xaradhere

XL dwell from Shilaabo to Jowhar without interruption also in liban zone Ethiopia and in Kenya in wajir they have a seat in a Kenyan county. Listen i agree Abgaal are bigger than Hawadleas a clan but in Hirshabelle Hawadle is bigger and have bigger territory.

 

[Rationale]

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More deflection I said rough estimations from the top of my head. You came up with some random 67%. This FKD started from this post.

Control kulahaa, Hirshabelle will be moved to three spheres co-existing peacefully. The top Xawaadle official will represent and handle East Hiiraan, the top Gugundhabe official will represent and handle West Hiiraan and the top Mudulood official will represent and handle Shabellada dhexe.

I'm so tired of the low IQ bravado spouted by people here. We need a system that ensures that everyone can handle their affairs and develop their lands without xadgudub, cadaallo daro and the endless struggle for resources taking place.

What got you lot in your feelings is me advocating for Gugundhabe to manage their own affairs. What bunch of laangaabs. This is why no one in HS wants XL in charge dumb low IQ munaafiqs.

When the laangaab @The Midlands stop talking about HS affairs I might consider it. Go police him, we don't care wich Xawaadle talks for you in HS, the audacity to tell a Mudulood to shut up about Hirshabelle. Lol

 

[Qofwalan]

No Beledweyne is. jowhar only has mudulood, GJ and shiidle. Beledweyne has XL, baadicade, GJ, jiidle, ujejeen, makane, reer aw hassan

Real beledweyne goole degan is not compared to jowhar thats facts

 

[Rationale]

Even then I don’t think any clan in HS is a clear majority. Even if you look at maps and towns, Mudulood, XL, Galjecel/Gugudhabe and Bantu all have sizeable population. Hiraan and Middle shabelle have similar populations as proven by every census done since 1930.

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Wallahi Middle Shabelle has much bigger population this was CIA estimate from 2005.

The 2014 estimation is so anti Mudulood wallahhi and I stay even objective enough to not protest it. When Middle Shabelle a decade earlier was estimated to almost have twice the population of Hiiraan.

These emotional laangaabs are not here for objectivity but xaqdaro. Nothing will be accepted from them.

 

[Level58]

More deflection I said rough estimations from the top of my head. You came up with some random 67%. This FKD started from this post.

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[Rationale]

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Stoop wasting my time what numbers to work with I didnt provide you? I said 45% of Hiiraan and 30% of Hirshabelle and you came up with a random 67% lol. Wtf are you posting for the sake of posting?

I asked you a simple question and you are not even man enought to give me a yes or no answer.

 

[The Midlands]

Even then I don’t think any clan in HS is a clear majority. Even if you look at maps and towns, Mudulood, XL, Galjecel/Gugudhabe and Bantu all have sizeable population. Hiraan and Middle shabelle have similar populations as proven by every census done since 1930.

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You still posting xaarsoor map? abgaal dhul aadan aqoon yaa kuu dirsadey? That map includes our feerfeer somalia and maxamuudd gacal that are 100% xl. What do you think if i use the xl adeero in balcad area as a map? This is what udeejeen are reerow hassan are like like in xl. I told you hg have no border with ethiopia in west of matabaan wich is xl.

 

[Prince of HS]

You still posting xaarsoor map? abgaal dhul aadan aqoon yaa kuu dirsadey? That map includes our feerfeer somalia and maxamuudd gacal that are 100% xl. What do you think if i use the xl adeero in balcad area as a map? This is what udeejeen are reerow hassan are like like in xl. I told you hg have no border with ethiopia in west of matabaan wich is xl.

 

[Level58]

I asked you a simple question and you are not even man enought to give me a yes or no answer.

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[Rationale]

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Then we have nothing to disagree about, in the end of the day numbers and population figures are irrelevant if everyone are managing their own affairs and developing their land without obstacles from the state.

 

[The Midlands]

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stupif that dark spot north of baladweyne is feerfeer and maxamuud gacal our land

Talk about your Your isbaarists in Jowhar confirming this map that apart from Madow your abgaal xaafad equals gugundhabe and xl xaafadwich is much bigger though downplaying xl numbers who dominate this xaafad while gaaljecel dominate in the countryside southwest of Jowhar but at the end we made the same number in golaha deegaanka



Here is the real map do you see HG bordering feerfeer distrctof ethiopia from hiiraan?

And the jijeele are they in feerfeer?

 

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Beautiful map, but it downplays bit of Moobleen land west of the river between Jowhar and Balcad. But other than that its perfect and quite fair one.

 

[Prince of HS]

Beautiful map, but it downplays bit of Moobleen land west of the river between Jowhar and Balcad. But other than that its perfect and quite fair one.

correct west of highway past balcad in places such as qalimow is mobleen land

 

[The Midlands]

Why have you gone mute about having the same size of gugundhabe and xl numbers in golaha deegaanka 12 east vs 12 west as a mudulood not as abgaal desipte looting Madow who are the biggest in Jowhar and downplaying Hawadle? This is actualy based on my Jowhar map wich you were against iti need an answer this is what you claim as your town because your own "degmoos" are tuulos

 

[The Midlands]

Xataa boobkiina Jowhar ma lihidiin laakin u fiirso baladweyne

 

[Prince of HS]

Why have you gone mute about having the same size of gugundhabe and xl numbers in golaha deegaanka 12 east vs 12 west as a mudulood not as abgaal desipte looting Madow who are the biggest in Jowhar and downplaying Hawadle? This is actualy based on my Jowhar map wich you were against iti need an answer this is what you claim as your town because your own "degmoos" are tuulos

 

[The Midlands]

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DEFEATED STOP CLAIMING JOWHAR NEXT TIME JOWHAR TIRaDA AAD SHEEGANEYSID WAA TIRADA REER HIIRAAN EVEN YOUR BOOB YOU GoT the sAME NUMBERS AS THEM AND WE HAVE HIIRAAN ON OUR OWN

 

[The Midlands]

Congratulations to halyeey Abdullahi Nuur on the new post how can this guy stay without Job after he finished Fahad Yasin?

I forgot to add that Dabageed has started arming his xasaan miise macawisley with "Zuu" because he is intendinng to become against the new Hishabelle as his seat will go to Abgaal so he is not really supporting macawisley but he wants to use those from his jufo against dawlada . Guudlawe will be safiir maybe in Dijibouti and replace salaad cali jeele

 

[Bowda-dheer]

I personally want that. Abgaals back home don’t mind it but they would rather Banadir
state involving the two shabelles and Banadir. Just how it used to be before Siad Barre AUN changed it in the 80’s. Abgaal are influxing to Banadir in huge numbers post 2011 especially our youth. To give you two examples, 80% of my cousins move to xamar after they finish dugsi ( around 13 years of age) for studies to the point where only my grandparents and people their age still permanently live in our village in S/dhexe. Also we have a whole sub of us residing in Galmudug which they don’t like either as HSM allowed them to be underrepresented as he wanted to stay president

Also another example is Ceel dhere district in Galgaduud ( 100% waceysle) population in 2005 was 75,000 it was far more populated than cabudwaaq and ceel buur district. UN census 2014 it was lower than both districts with around 115,000 population. This is because most reer ceel dhere have moved to Mogadishu.

If a banaadir state happens you gotta put at least 30% for hg on the table right? Like how gobolka banaadir is currently shared.