Africa/Middle East Produce Nothing

DR OSMAN

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I have noticed Africa/Middle east which are highly religious continents produce nothing beyond natural resources like the ancient people of their time period. There has been no advancement beyond digging the ground for oil, minerals, gold, diamonds, or farming. This was done as long as 5000 years ago during the time of pharoah, why is it religious based societies are the dumbest in the world.

Ask yourself why don't you see any religious society leading in the production of 'medicine, technology, planes, helicopters, cars, tvs, army equipment' you cannot even refine your natural resources and send it in 'raw' form to qualified and skilled east asians or europeans who are non religious societies that produce high end products. U didn't create electricity, flight, the motor, the radio or other great inventions of disbelievers. U sit there as basket-case waiting for diselievers to do everything for u and u tell us your religion is true? if it's true what made u 68 IQ? surely your religion did because that is what you believe and spend your time on.

Why do you religious guys sit on the cradle of resources but at the same time u have no clue what to do with it? if it wasn't for western or east asian intervention and bringing the equipments, skills and the money, u would still be living like your ancestors 500 years ago.

This is proof to me or anyone with half a brain that disbelievers are smarter then believers. I always argue in public and private what africa-mid-east contributes to the world and what they get back from the world in exchange is a deficit of massive porportions. If africa/mid-east disappeared today, the world would not miss them as they don't produce anything that hasn't been done already in europe or east asia.

I hang my head in shame coming from the most backward continent and on top of that the most backward religion, at least african christians are light years ahead in comparison to african muslims showing how somalia is screwed twice over being black and being muslim, not a nice combination if you want to be super power, it just relegates you to the bottom of the barrel of the world. As trump rightfully said SHIT HOLE countries
 
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GemState

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Read up on the Islamic golden age which lasted for over 6 centuries and the various innovations in Algebra, calculus, geometry, medicine, and astronomy, etc that revolutionized the world, while the disbelievers you admire so much were stuck in the dark ages.

Hell, Mathematics is based on Algebra, which was founded by Arabs and Persians, the first "scientist" was an Iraqi named Ibn al-Haytham.

Without algebra, chemistry would be completely indecipherable, at least anything quantitative, then forget about biology and biochemistry as well, which in turn leads to far less advanced Medicine. Many of the inventions made later on in history would not have been possible without the contributions of Muslim scientists.
 

DR OSMAN

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Read up on the Islamic golden age which lasted for over 6 centuries and the various innovations in Algebra, calculus, geometry, medicine, and astronomy, etc that revolutionized the world, while the disbelievers you admire so much were stuck in the dark ages.

Hell, Mathematics is based on Algebra, which was founded by Arabs and Persians, the first "scientist" was an Iraqi named Ibn al-Haytham.

Without algebra, chemistry would be completely indecipherable, at least anything quantitative, then forget about biology and biochemistry as well, which in turn leads to far less advanced Medicine. Many of the inventions made later on in history would not have been possible without the contributions of Muslim scientists.

So how is it possible you both share the same religion and one is in the dark ages since 19th century till 21st century, while the other was a leader of knowledge. Horta isku diin miyad ahaydeen mise kala diin? if u hold the same religion, why are u not having a golden age? U r in 2 centuries of darkness so don't argue poor leaders, u can't have poor leaders for 200 years, u have a poor religion is what u should argue which is more realistic then
 

DR OSMAN

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@GemState your omar was right

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Muslims should be embarassed to be apart of Islam cause we don't see any evidence on the ground that these people are powerful or advanced all we see is primitiveness and therefore a logical brain will conclude if you are weak n poor and dumb in this world, it's highly likely u will also be weak, poor, dumb before god also. If u can't master this world, the liklihood u mastered the next world is illogical. Knowledge starts here, first prove to the people u know and master this world and then a rational person will say 'haye explain to me also the next world', your religious views would be taken much more serious in weight as we see evidence then but there is no evidence today nor for the last 200 years. U need a great reformation is my advice too you to get yourself out of this dark ages.

We are proud of our disbelief cause we own the world and it's knowledge and if we say there is no god, then we are right as we dominate the world in all knowledge arenas.

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Your entire argument falls apart because of your false naive premise that these societies are "religious" and practicing which they are not.

When did constant brutal clan wars, rampant corruption on societal scale, never ending vicious brutal callous murders, overt blatant racism with no concept of justic turn into religious virtues or worse religious society?

Or do you count the handful extremist close-minded wadaads funded by the Saudis for destabilisation and there khawariij blood thirsty lap dogs who will be the dogs of hell fire, as symbols of religious virtue and religious society?

The west is flourishing because of there sense of justice and care for there citizens, the very essence of Islam which you don't find in ours, they look after animals better then we look after humans, we attain the mercy of God when we show mercy to others, and the inverse is true as well.

The reason Muslim nations are in this pitful debased state is because of there collective lack of religiousity, lack of mercy, lack of justice which all leads to much vice and corruption, which stifles innovation and progress in that society.

The smart people in those backward lands that are lucky flee elsewhere to lands were justice exist were they can flourish and show there talent.

History attest to this, when Muslims made akhira there goal and remained pious, they flourished and whenever they turned away from it they got destroyed.

What is happening to us today is collective punishment until we go back to being decent honest merciful people who are upright and just as the deen demands, until such people at least make up 50% of the populace, nothing will change collectively.

You are part of the problem and a clear proof that religion isn't the problem, your pride yourself for being irreligious, yet you have that same backward primitive tribal superiority complex deep inside of you considering other tribes as inferior.

You went as far as advocating for organ harvesting of other Somali clans out of your sheer hatred for them, something unprecedented in the history of qabyaalad, no one went this far before and you rightfully got banned for it.

You are top 3 when it comes to tribalism on this forum, and top 3 when it comes to talking against the deen.

Just like changing deen hasn't changed much for you neither would the same transpire if all Somalis embraced atheism tomorrow because deen was never the issue to begin with, it's the filth, xasad and corruption that lies deep within our chest which have failed to cure.
 
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Bro living standards is more important than producing something useful, the gulf Arabs are wealthy despite only exporting petroleum, and it’s very stable and religious. Other countries have to invent things because they have to survive In other ways.

So it’s possible to be religious AND wealthy AND stable.
 
I have noticed Africa/Middle east which are highly religious continents produce nothing beyond natural resources like the ancient people of their time period. There has been no advancement beyond digging the ground for oil, minerals, gold, diamonds, or farming. This was done as long as 5000 years ago during the time of pharoah, why is it religious based societies are the dumbest in the world.

Ask yourself why don't you see any religious society leading in the production of 'medicine, technology, planes, helicopters, cars, tvs, army equipment' you cannot even refine your natural resources and send it in 'raw' form to qualified and skilled east asians or europeans who are non religious societies that produce high end products. U didn't create electricity, flight, the motor, the radio or other great inventions of disbelievers. U sit there as basket-case waiting for diselievers to do everything for u and u tell us your religion is true? if it's true what made u 68 IQ? surely your religion did because that is what you believe and spend your time on.

Why do you religious guys sit on the cradle of resources but at the same time u have no clue what to do with it? if it wasn't for western or east asian intervention and bringing the equipments, skills and the money, u would still be living like your ancestors 500 years ago.

This is proof to me or anyone with half a brain that disbelievers are smarter then believers. I always argue in public and private what africa-mid-east contributes to the world and what they get back from the world in exchange is a deficit of massive porportions. If africa/mid-east disappeared today, the world would not miss them as they don't produce anything that hasn't been done already in europe or east asia.

I hang my head in shame coming from the most backward continent and on top of that the most backward religion, at least african christians are light years ahead in comparison to african muslims showing how somalia is screwed twice over being black and being muslim, not a nice combination if you want to be super power, it just relegates you to the bottom of the barrel of the world. As trump rightfully said SHIT HOLE countries
One reason is because former turky power messed upp, they invented printer and once news started spread they made it illegal while the West saw how usefull it was. Second the this is just dunya mentality run though our genes and we are forced to. Mem quran instead of investing time in usefull education.
Look im a Muslim but i cant just deny that we are used to care free lifestyle without any work ethic.

Also africa is too big and too diverse :/
 
Your entire argument falls apart because of your false naive premise that these societies are "religious" and practicing which they are not.

When did constant brutal clan wars, rampant corruption on societal scale, never ending vicious brutal callous murders, overt blatant racism with no concept of justic turn into religious virtues or worse religious society?

Or do you count the handful extremist close-minded wadaads funded by the Saudis for destabilisation and there khawariij blood thirsty lap dogs who will be the dogs of hell fire, as symbols of religious virtue and religious society?

The west is flourishing because of there sense of justice and care for there citizens, the very essence of Islam which you don't find in ours, they look after animals better then we look after humans, we attain the mercy of God when we show mercy to others, and the inverse is true as well.

The reason Muslim nations are in this pitful debased state is because of there collective lack of religiousity, lack of mercy, lack of justice which all leads to much vice and corruption, which stifles innovation and progress in that society.

The smart people in those backward lands that are lucky flee elsewhere to lands were justice exist were they can flourish and show there talent.

History attest to this, when Muslims made akhira there goal and remained pious, they flourished and whenever they turned away from it they got destroyed.

What is happening to us today is collective punishment until we go back to being decent honest merciful people who are upright and just as the deen demands, until such people at least make up 50% of the populace, nothing will change collectively.

You are part of the problem and a clear proof that religion isn't the problem, your pride yourself for being irreligious, yet you have that same backward primitive tribal superiority complex deep inside of you considering other tribes as inferior.

You went as far as advocating for organ harvesting of other Somali clans out of your sheer hatred for them, something unprecedented in the history of qabyaalad, no one went this far before and you rightfully got banned for it.

You are top 3 when it comes to tribalism on this forum, and top 3 when it comes to talking against the deen.

Just like changing deen hasn't changed much for you neither would the same transpire if all Somalis embraced atheism tomorrow because deen was never the issue to begin with, it's the filth, xasad and corruption that lies deep within our chest which have failed to cure.
Bro, i am a muslim and what you are talking is just impossible. You have a false sense of justice. Your view on this matter is just too simple
 

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