Af maay history

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[NidarNidar]

I never understood the fixation of Maxaa Tiri being solely nomadic, when originally we were originally all agropastoralist unless forced to be nomadic due to climate, and wouldn't a mobile group have more complexitity, the more you know of standard Somali the more you can pick out from Af Maay.

I assumed Rendilles were the first to leave at the proto somali stage, between 5-1st century BCE.

Af Maay speakers split between 5th century AD I believe.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://cornerstone.lib.mnsu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi%3Farticle%3D1275%26context%3Detds&ved=2ahUKEwitieLKvbePAxXyVkEAHd8bBYQQFnoECFwQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1MH87vUcQN6BcZd8TqnxyO

Good read

 

[reer_ugaas_hussein]

This graph shows the split, jiddo is in fact the one that split the earliest, even before rendille, af may and af maaxa tiri are the most closely related of the somaloid languages and thy probably completely split only a thousand years ago.

 

[Kamaaludeen Al Reewin]

I never understood the fixation of Maxaa Tiri being solely nomadic, when originally we were originally all agropastoralist unless forced to be nomadic due to climate, and wouldn't a mobile group have more complexitity, the more you know of standard Somali the more you can pick out from Af Maay.

I assumed Rendilles were the first to leave at the proto somali stage, between 5-1st century BCE.

Af Maay speakers split between 5th century AD I believe.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://cornerstone.lib.mnsu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi%3Farticle%3D1275%26context%3Detds&ved=2ahUKEwitieLKvbePAxXyVkEAHd8bBYQQFnoECFwQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1MH87vUcQN6BcZd8TqnxyO

Good read

But modern day the vast majority of maxa tiri speakers are nomadic though, and Maya speakers are majority agropastortalist or even agricultural fully.

 

[Midas]

Eve beyond the fact that af maay is a spectrum and the diffrencd is exaggerated.

People need to realize about 85-90% of somalis speak what we would call maxa tiri and that blue circle is where af-maay speakers are located.

 

[Misil]

Maay speakers are agropastoralists; they keep animals like camels and also farm. They move with their animals seasonally just like other somalis. I would not call them sedentary farmers in the way anthropologists use that term. Their lifestyle is quite similar to some of the ppl of northwestern somaliweyn (western isaaq, geri, gudobirso etc)

Maay doesn’t have more dialects than maxaa. It has maybe 3 main dialects. One spoken in the dhoobey region of lower shabelle, another spoken in buur hakaba and finally one spoken by the rest of rahawein/reewin (this last one can possibly be split into two to represent the sagaal and siyeed lineages. Maxaa tiri has much more dialects with some of them being closer to nearby maay dialects than more distant maxaa ones. Everything is a continuum after all.

 

[Allen]

This graph shows the split, jiddo is in fact the one that split the earliest, even before rendille, af may and af maaxa tiri are the most closely related of the somaloid languages and thy probably completely split only a thousand years ago. View attachment 372062

How come both rendille and bayso live really far away while jiido live in koonfur heartland? Did they not follow a patterned migration? Also according to traditions tunni followed jiido right away, maybe the chart ain’t accurate or Bayso-jiido are just not researched enough. According to this chart jiido isn’t even a Somaloid language