Abyssinians

[Invader]

If you don't know he was from Hubat why did you say he was Somali earlier? Y'all a bunch of jokers.Enjoy circle-jerking each other and creating fake glorified we wuz kangz history like the AAs you despise lmfao

Imam Ahmad is regarded by most scholars as an ethnic harari. However, some historians have disputed his ethnicity,[9] with Ahmad sometimes interpreted as being a Harari.[10][11] Many Somali clans played a strong role in Gurey's conquest of Abyssinia, however, it is said that these clans went to war not so much as Somalis but as Muslims.

 

[Invader]

Harari my ass ahmed gurey was somali so was the majority

Find proof sxb.

 

[Habane]

so the adal was run by somalized ethiopeans

They were various diverse Ethio-Semitic groups many of whom don't exist anymore (got ethered by the Oromo migrations).Somalis were barely involved in the politics of these kingdoms unless they needed mercenaries.The Imam was pleased with us joining the ranks of his army and commended us for out bravery many times especially in the battle of Shimbra Kure where the Somalis held their flank led by the Geri Garaad who was married to the Imam's sister and was very close friends with

 

[Invader]

When I have time, I will take some photos of pages on the Futuh that prove he isn't Somali and his heritage

Stop with your propaganda.

I can guarantee you're a Ethiopian claiming him aswell.

Show me proof of his ethnicity.

The Harars were Ethio-Semites sxb.

You're dumb sxb

 

[Habane]

There is obviously a difference of opinion if notable historians like I.M Lewis and Richard Pankhurst believed that he was a Somali from the Dir tribe.

Also, you haven't answered my question, if he wasn't Dir, what was he? Harla? Agew?

I take the guy who accompanied Imam Ahmed's over the opinion of some white British men who wrote things 500 years later.Perhaps your mind has been colonized and you only trust the white man with history

 

[Habane]

Stop with your propaganda.

I can guarantee you're a Ethiopian claiming him aswell.

Show me proof of his ethnicity.

The Harars were Ethio-Semites sxb.

You're dumb sxb

Keep reading wiki articles little nigga.You are not at my level

 

[Octavian]

They were various diverse Ethio-Semitic groups many of whom don't exist anymore (got ethered by the Oromo migrations).Somalis were barely involved in the politics of these kingdoms unless they needed mercenaries.The Imam was pleased with us joining the ranks of his army and commended us for out bravery many times especially in the battle of Shimbra Kure where the Somalis held their flank led by the Geri Garaad who was married to the Imam's sister and was very close friends with

I have to ask did somali ever build any major kingdoms/empires then based on what u have written it seems like we didn't play a huge role in the governance of our own lands

 

[Invader]

I take the guy who accompanied Imam Ahmed's over the opinion of some white British men who wrote things 500 years later.Perhaps your mind has been colonized and you only trust the white man with history

I got my info from Adal Scholars sxb

 

[Invader]

Keep reading wiki articles little nigga.You are not at my level

If Ahmad was a Ethio-Semite.

Which one was he.

 

[Halimak]

They were various diverse Ethio-Semitic groups many of whom don't exist anymore (got ethered by the Oromo migrations).Somalis were barely involved in the politics of these kingdoms unless they needed mercenaries.The Imam was pleased with us joining the

I take the guy who accompanied Imam Ahmed's over the opinion of some white British men who wrote things 500 years later.Perhaps your mind has been colonized and you only trust the white man with history

You have not answered my questions. If you take what this man says to be correct, what ethnic background was the Imaam?

Also, what do white British men gain from saying he was Somali?

 

[Marshall D Abdi]

I got my info from Adal Scholars sxb

U and that dickhead hanbe trynna really steal our somali history someone is claiming some while u claiming harari who was at that time foot soldiers

Someone Tag Factz

 

[SoMal]

Ethiopian–Egyptian War - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[celidheere]

They were various diverse Ethio-Semitic groups many of whom don't exist anymore (got ethered by the Oromo migrations).Somalis were barely involved in the politics of these kingdoms unless they needed mercenaries.The Imam was pleased with us joining the ranks of his army and commended us for out bravery many times especially in the battle of Shimbra Kure where the Somalis held their flank led by the Geri Garaad who was married to the Imam's sister and was very close friends with

Provide sources then

and apparently Somalis weren’t involved in the politics of these lands when it’s established that Nur ibn Mujahid was a Somali man from the Marexan clan

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

Lets forget our rivalry with Ethiopians at the door and admire our fellow Cushite's achievement.

Also the Aksum/Abyssinians i'm talking about are periods in which Somalis were hardly known. More than 1400 years ago.

Ethiopia was never colonised because they were agents of colonialism.
They didnt manufacture guns nor had better economy than the cuhsites be it Oromos or Somalis or Afars.
So how did this land locked isolated primitive kingdoms dominate the horn of Africa?
We have to know that when Emporor Towerdos who refused to listen to the demands of the British and held hostage the British ambassador was put under siege and killed by the British we also know that Yohannes was beheaded by the Mahdi.

So how is it possible that a primitive empire under Menelik was not colonised by Egypt and Sudan and the Somali peninsula who were more.powerful were.

I don't think Menelik without even Oromos would match Shaka zulu.

 

[Marshall D Abdi]

Only for a year

Still worth it

 

[madaxweyne]

Ethiopia was never colonised because they were agents of colonialism.
They didnt manufacture guns nor had better economy than the cuhsites be it Oromos or Somalis or Afars.
So how did this land locked isolated primitive kingdoms dominate the horn of Africa?
We have to know that when Emporor Towerdos who refused to listen to the demands of the British and held hostage the British ambassador was put under siege and killed by the British we also know that Yohannes was beheaded by the Mahdi.

So how is it possible that a primitive empire under Menelik was not colonised by Egypt and Sudan and the Somali peninsula who were more.powerful were.

I don't think Menelik without even Oromos would match Shaka zulu.

ethiopian empire was more then 700 years old by time of of shaka zulus lifetime and his primitive kingdom you cant compare

 

[Marquis]

@Habane Hubat is Karanle territory

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

ethiopian empire was more then 700 years old by time of of shaka zulus lifetime and his primitive kingdom you cant compare

Menelik and shaka Zulu was same era .
They both were using bow and Arrow and spears and spears.
Shaka had more man power.

 

[madaxweyne]

Menelik and shaka Zulu was same era .
They both were using bow and Arrow and spears and spears.
Shaka had more man power.

but menaliks kingdom was 700 years old at the time and shaka zulus and his primitive kingdom was only 80 years old do the maths

menalikk himself didnt use bow and arrow he used matchlocks and rifles to defeat the italians in battle Ethiopia was using firearms since the adal wars

you need to read more history walal

 

[tyrannicalmanager]

did waaqo make another account?