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Itsnotthateasy

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It's really simple but you always want the moral upper hand even when trying to slide out of genocide. Do I want a Somaliland that is surrounded on both sides by Somalia or not? Absolutely not, it's an existential risk so it won't be tolerated. Neither do I want old regime war hounds on my border either. I want them inside and demobilized. Simple stuff, not rocket science. Somaliland will border Puntland.

No need to get hysterical, things are very straight forward when you stop to think.
 
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daljirkadahsoon

Itsnotthateasy said:
It's really simple but you always want the moral upper hand even when trying to slide out of genocide. Do I want a Somaliland that is surrounded on both sides by Somalia or not? Absolutely not, it's an existential risk so it won't be tolerated. Neither do I want old regime war hounds on my border either. I want them inside and demobilized. Simple stuff, not rocket science. Somaliland will border Puntland.
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Yeah it's a real risk and it won't be tolerated, end of story. Somalia is an expansionist state by nature. If Somaliland secedes it they are coming back.

You want a violent militarized irredentist state to reclaim the ogaden, we see that as an existential risk. The less Somalia the better for everyone Somalis included.
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Just to finish the point because these discussions always drag on. You have a different set of goals that you try to mask with morality but it's ultimately a violent ideology you push for.
 
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daljirkadahsoon

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Yeah it's a real risk and it won't be tolerated, end of story. Somalia is an expansionist state by nature. If Somaliland secedes it they are coming back.

You want a violent militarized irredentist state to reclaim the ogaden, we see that as an existential risk. The less Somalia the better for everyone Somalis included.
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Too bad for you your leaders don't want to be independent then

This whole discussion would be of actual importance then but Biixi like his predecessors is happy to be a local governor and occasionally pretend that he is a leader of a sovereign country.
 
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daljirkadahsoon said:
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1. There's a war coming regardless. We will take the smaller war now to avoid a bigger one in the future, when Somalia comes back for it's turf.

2. Obsessed with Xamar? This is gaslighting. Why wouldn't Somaliland be concerned ultimately with Xamar. The group there are claiming sovereignty over Somilland. Our problems are not with Jubbaland or KGS.

3. I don't have a problem with the south in general. They could be allies under the right condition but not now.

4. A negotiated solution was attempted but right now it's a case of having mutually exclusive goals. There is no middle ground either they get everything they want and Somaliland is dragged into Federal Somalia and dismemebered or they are back in Somaliland.

5. The world does not revolve around Somalilanders. This is more gaslighting to suggest we shouldn't be concerened about the things that do involve us.

6. You didn't state whether a reasonable FGS emerged. YOu just asked if it was offered today and the obvious answer to that is no for the reasons I gave above.

7. Just more gaslighting. Just the other month HSM is talking about lands and people missing. Notice it's always lands before people. That should tell you everything you need to know. Besides we are not interested in that stuff at all.
 
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Itsnotthateasy

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Itsnotthateasy said:
1. There's a war coming regardless. We will take the smaller war now to avoid a bigger one in the future, when Somalia comes back for it's turf.

2. Obsessed with Xamar? This is gaslighting. Why wouldn't Somaliland be concerned ultimately with Xamar. The group there are claiming sovereignty over Somilland. Our problems are not with Jubbaland or KGS.

3. I don't have a problem with the south in general. They could be allies under the right condition but not now.

4. A negotiated solution was attempted but right now it's a case of having mutually exclusive goals. There is no middle ground either they get everything they want and Somaliland is dragged into Federal Somalia and dismemebered or they are back in Somaliland.

5. The world does not revolve around Somalilanders. This is more gaslighting to suggest we shouldn't be concerened about the things that do involve us.

6. You didn't state whether a reasonable FGS emerged. YOu just asked if it was offered today and the obvious answer to that is no for the reasons I gave above.

7. Just more gaslighting. Just the other month HSM is talking about lands and people missing. Notice it's always lands before people. That should tell you everything you need to know. Besides we are not interested in that stuff at all.
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Anyway please I'm bored of trying to decode your speech. There are a million ways to be dishonest and the juice isn't worth the squeeze.
 
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daljirkadahsoon

Itsnotthateasy said:
Anyway please I'm bored of trying to decode your speech. There are a million ways to be dishonest and the juice isn't worth the squeeze.
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Nothing to decode I don't hide behind all sorts of fancy language and pretend I am a victim with a moral high ground.

You are a fascist and your movement is doomed to end in failure. Fin. You gave me a good laugh though
 
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Itsnotthateasy

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daljirkadahsoon said:
Nothing to decode I don't hide behind all sorts of fancy language and pretend I am a victim with a moral high ground.

You are a fascist and your movement is doomed to end in failure. Fin. You gave me a good laugh though
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You literally describing yourself. You aren't even honest about your goals, violent liberation of Ogaden is your only objective and you don't care who or what gets crushed in the pursuit. You would sooner see Somaliland and Somalia burn before the Ogaden is abandoned. Truly a rebel without a clue.

You just pop up and from time to time, always when the topic is Somaliland to suggest that Somalialnd not go after it's political goals with violence and that violence is wrong when violence is central to your own objectives.

This is clear and provable hypocrisy.
 
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Hotchick12

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That girl is just an hilarious isaaq supremacist day in and day out they are like we hate daroods, Horta do they think they are Israelis and keep an hostile occupied people in their control and I don’t blame them dulbahante fighting for their freedom
 
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Hotchick12

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Ssc you have inspired the samaroon, we need our own state that is ruled by us, samaroons are setting the stone for own freedom and away from this failed project
 
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