ASTAGFIRULLAH! This is absolutely haram. HARAM! Disgusting!
what the f*ck is wrong with you horta? You trying to make us Ash3ris look bad?
A solution to the Zina problem among young Muslims
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what the f*ck is wrong with you horta? You trying to make us Ash3ris look bad?
Are you sick in the mind? This is zina. This is prostitution. This is haram. Don’t bring this kuffar shit to us.
Loool Salafi scholars like Sh. Ibn Uthaymeen and Albani spoke about how this is haram.
Scholars also spoke against marrying non Muslims in kuffar land. Is this nigga on crack. If your qooq is high then go to the gym and workout. Don’t bring your balayo here abowe.
Any person with Iman and even the littlest bit of islamic knowledge would know this is haram and the opposite of why marriage exists.
Wallahi, it’s is straight up evil. At least a prostitute knows where she stands not to say soliciting prostitutes it isn’t worse and straight haram, but a Western woman who is saying yes to marriage is one that envisions her whole life with a man and the women who tend to marry Muslim men tend to be the one that are interested in Islam or flexible enough to learn about it. Imagine, using and abusing such a woman who might even carry your child and that child later on being gaal and finding out that some so called Muslim men think this is their God given right to protect themselves from Zina like they’re uncontrollable animals that have no self-control? What do you think their views of Islam would be?
Abu whatever his name is, doesn’t understand this thread is damaging towards non Muslim women but can also potentially damage the imaan of actual Muslims. No one with a moral compass can agree with this and trying to use Islam will just make people question things.
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Lol, that’s true, forget temp marriage, you’re not even encouraged to have any sort of marriage with gaalada due to kids and their upbringing. Imagine thinking it’s okay to be with one and leave her and the kids to be raised as non Muslim. Such a person will have a lot of answer for on the DOJ. Every man is a shepherd and will be asked about his herd.
But this is the issue with a lot of young men and even some who are students of Islam. They don’t look at Islam holistically or that morals and respect of human dignity is paramount. They’ll look at separate rulings and technicalities. They’re stuck on just the haram and haram, rather than the whole message and this thread is the perfect example.Any person with Iman and even the littlest bit of islamic knowledge would know this is haram and the opposite of why marriage exists.
Yup the Muftis and Sheikhs that represent the Eastern (Maghreb) and Western (Egypt/Arabia) all ban it. 9/10 times these kids become kuffar. But these men don’t care to listen to sheikhs. They only listen to them when they are approving of their behavior or when they want to control women. Mutah + Kufar? Open an OF why you are at it.
The alchemist
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We can't find ways to circumvent the deen for our every desire. Then we're using the deen to excuse our lack of discipline for indulgences, and after a while, we'll start to change how we approach the deen altogether as our moral standards will lower. You know, like how the average Christian believes Zina is a normal thing saying it is unrealistic to expect people not to have sex before marriage and use selective texts to extrapolate meaning without proper context.
Use Islam for better impulse control and reach an improved state instead of finding ways to cater to your base desires through immoral workarounds.
You need to master self-control if you can't marry a woman with the intention of a life-long commitment. All you need to do is stop placing yourself in specific environments and stick to your studies. Yes, it is hard to be around women in constant degen parties but that is on you. An alcoholic cannot go to bars and expect to stay sober.
Stop giving excuses for our weaknesses as if they will always win over us. It gives you zero true value. Having an indulgent mindset is corrosive. Those women around you will feast on your soul, bro. Zina when you're younger is seen as an achievement of a great release, a realization and confirmation of manhood being the Western culture. Later you will find out that Zina is a form of spiritual self-harm.
Use Islam for better impulse control and reach an improved state instead of finding ways to cater to your base desires through immoral workarounds.
You need to master self-control if you can't marry a woman with the intention of a life-long commitment. All you need to do is stop placing yourself in specific environments and stick to your studies. Yes, it is hard to be around women in constant degen parties but that is on you. An alcoholic cannot go to bars and expect to stay sober.
Stop giving excuses for our weaknesses as if they will always win over us. It gives you zero true value. Having an indulgent mindset is corrosive. Those women around you will feast on your soul, bro. Zina when you're younger is seen as an achievement of a great release, a realization and confirmation of manhood being the Western culture. Later you will find out that Zina is a form of spiritual self-harm.
Omar del Sur
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I have no idea if this is halal because I haven't looked into it... but how are you going to marry them with the intent to divorce except by tricking them? even if it was halal I think it would be haraam by the deception... unless you somehow got them to agree which I don't think is likely
Omar del Sur
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does it really need to be made a gender thing? I was against the proposal but there's no need to make things about the person's gender... there are plenty of men and women posting wrong things but it doesn't mean it needs to be made into a thing about women if it's a woman... or vice versa...
Muslim men and women are supposed to be awliya of each other, not enemies.
I don't think you thought this through. Imagine this became a thing and young men in the West were now marrying ahlul kitaab women only to later divorce them. What social ills can you think of that may result from this? Single homes (and the host of issues that comes with that)? Abandoned children (raised as non-Muslim)? Betrayed women (now averse to the religion)? An ugly representation of Islam? Etc.
Things that were made haram were made so for a reason. Islam looks at the health of society at large and what harms or causes corruption is prohibited. It's important to refer back to the scholars instead of making whimsical proposals that give no forethought to possible negative outcomes.
Things that were made haram were made so for a reason. Islam looks at the health of society at large and what harms or causes corruption is prohibited. It's important to refer back to the scholars instead of making whimsical proposals that give no forethought to possible negative outcomes.
The solution is to fear Allah pray your five daily prayers properly in its fixed timing and do extra other prayers as all of this will help you avoid major sins as Allah made it clear. Almost if your someone that finds it difficult to give up zina than get married as soon as possible.
You take divorce so lightly it is worrying. It is the most disliked of the permissible deeds by Allah.
Jabir reported that Allah’s Messenger (SAW) said: Iblis places his throne upon water; he then sends detachments (for creating dissension); the nearer to him in rank are those who are most notorious in creating dissension. One of them comes and says: “I did so and so.” And he says: “You have done nothing.” Then one amongst them comes and says: “I did not spare so and so until I sowed the seed of discord between a husband and a wife.” The Satan goes near him and says: “You have done well.” A’mash said: He then embraces him.
Iblis handles the biggest promotions to devils that break up a family. And here you use divorce so casually. Repent, or may God break your back.
Jabir reported that Allah’s Messenger (SAW) said: Iblis places his throne upon water; he then sends detachments (for creating dissension); the nearer to him in rank are those who are most notorious in creating dissension. One of them comes and says: “I did so and so.” And he says: “You have done nothing.” Then one amongst them comes and says: “I did not spare so and so until I sowed the seed of discord between a husband and a wife.” The Satan goes near him and says: “You have done well.” A’mash said: He then embraces him.
Iblis handles the biggest promotions to devils that break up a family. And here you use divorce so casually. Repent, or may God break your back.
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Thalassocracy
سبحان اللهِ وبحمدِه Free Palestine
What a waste time, money and effort also it resembles dark shameless acts
More productive would be bringing a wife from Africa if you can’t afford a western raised wife that you can have mutual agreement and understanding with
I’m not saying we’re permanent settlers here but look at the difference between Anglo Saxon America that preserved their families and heritage to the violent and feeble social contract of Spanish conquistadors who did just as you spoke
Everything that’s worth something needs effort and solid foundation
More productive would be bringing a wife from Africa if you can’t afford a western raised wife that you can have mutual agreement and understanding with
I’m not saying we’re permanent settlers here but look at the difference between Anglo Saxon America that preserved their families and heritage to the violent and feeble social contract of Spanish conquistadors who did just as you spoke
Everything that’s worth something needs effort and solid foundation
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xiin-finiin
general of ciidamada sida raha ubooda
saxib @Abu Ash’ari you are playing 4d chess. Walahi, my hats off to you.
