A question for the brothers..

[Sophisticate]

Why would you just be loyal to one person if you were that financially well off. There’s just too much of a difference in what each person is bringing in to that relationships. You’re talking millions I assume by saying ‘financially well off’. I don’t think I’d sacrifice my desires otherwise what is all that money for.

I don't know. Here's a thought. Some people simply prefer stability and peace of mind. And despite their net worth may be inclined more toward monogamy. Also, some like one commitment (over multiple ones) and do it better relative to others. Just because you have
lacaag in the 8-figure zone or more doesn't mean you'll be a heathen chasing anything that looks good and makes itself available to you. You may do the converse and become a bit more guarded and insular. Particularly if you have a lot to lose and some self-control.

 

[Taij4an]

I don't know. Here's a thought. Some people simply prefer stability and peace of mind. And despite their net worth may be inclined more toward monogamy. Also, some like one commitment (over multiple ones) and do it better relative to others.

I don't believe people like monogamy, the more wealthy a person gets the more he is interested in more than one women, instead of getting married again which is foreign to the culture and disadvantageous for the persons wealth and other variables, the person will go on to cheat and have sidepieces etc..
This is common knowledge for rich people, most people who pay prostitues and escorts and onlyfans and all of that will be well to do upperclass men
This delusion of monogamy is only for appearences

 

[Sophisticate]

I don't believe people like monogamy, the more wealthy a person gets the more he is interested in more than one women, instead of getting married again which is foreign to the culture and disadvantageous for the persons wealth and other variables, the person will go on to cheat and have sidepieces etc..
This is common knowledge for rich people, most people who pay prostitues and escorts and onlyfans and all of that will be well to do upperclass men
This delusion of monogamy is only for appearences

Yet some people stay monogamous nor do not have mistresses and are wealthy. I have relatives that fit that description. And I think you're removing the personality factor. As I said, some people are more inclined to be monogamous than others. There should be some heterogeneity even among the very high SES.

 

[Taij4an]

Yet some people stay monogamous nor do not have mistresses and are wealthy

Rare

 

[Taij4an]

I have relatives that fit that description

1.U probably don't know them well enough to say that, sorry to burst ur bubble but family can hide alot very easily
2.If they re as you say they are then they are the minority, assuming they engage in no extra marital sin

 

[Journey.]

But risking your life and sometimes health and icky side effects to bring a child into the world isn't doing less.

Women work now. We all do and obviously, working is 5x easier and less risky than pregnancy and childbirth and other side effects. Breastfeeding, sleepless nights and having other kids in the mix sounds like a nightmare albeit a rewarding one. I work a high stress job and I know I have it easier than the average hooyo that has just given birth with other kids as well. I mean I get work breaks, 9-5, weekends and breaks.

You're right, the hard work that goes into being a mother is often downplayed and dismissed. It's why some people still ask "what are women bringing to the table?". And why some people on here feel like their wife will literally be left twiddling her thumbs if they hire help to take care of the housework.

In my post I was highlighting this common mindset a lot of Western born men have of "if I'm doing xyz she needs to be doing xyz". (Of course, motherhood isn't taken into consideration much). It's a problematic way to view marriage and results from exposure to liberal ideologies where men and women are seen as equal and enter into a marriage as such. Despite professing traditionalism they expect their wife to put in equal amount of labour into the marriage but still expect their rights and privelages. And because they don't take into account the hard work of raising children and taking care of them full time etc., they feel short-changed/used if their wife is not doing more.

 

[Sophisticate]

1.U probably don't know them well enough to say that, sorry to burst ur bubble but family can hide alot very easily
2.If they re as you say they are then they are the minority, assuming they engage in no extra marital sin

I do know them. They are close relatives. Also, I consider your statement an affront. With all do respect. Having more opportunity does not incriminate someone. It's obvious that different people have different personal values and motivations which you seem to think are uniform just because of SES. I will reiterate not all men are created equally. That applies to those with money.

 

[Taij4an]

I do know them. They are close relatives. Also, I consider your statement an affront. With all do respect. Having more opportunity does not incriminate someone. It's obvious that different people have different personal values and motivations which you seem to think are uniform just because of SES. I will reiterate not all men are created equally. That applies to those with money.

I am talking majority compared with minority, yes men differ from man to man but only mn will a very low sex drive or very high fear of God will settle down for one women

 

[Journey.]

I am talking majority compared with minority, yes men differ from man to man but only mn will a very low sex drive or very high fear of God will settle down for one women

Were you not contemplating celibacy? If men can be celibate surely they can limit themselves to one wife?

 

[Taij4an]

Were you not contemplating celibacy? If men can be celibate surely they can limit themselves to one wife?

I am not the general man, 100% of boys I grew up with were in one way or another involved in some kind of sexual deviancy from the age of 10 onwards, that is not an exaggeration, I am trying to be a good Muslim and unlike a majority of Muslim men I am actually disciplined enough to control my nafs and plan on doing it for a long time. The amount of men in the world who are actually chaste is very low, that is a general fact, I am an outliar

 

[Journey.]

I am not the general man, 100% of boys I grew up with were in one way or another involved in some kind of sexual deviancy from the age of 10 onwards, that is not an exaggeration, I am trying to be a good Muslim and unlike a majority of Muslim men I am actually disciplined enough to control my nafs and plan on doing it for a long time. The amount of men in the world who are actually chaste is very low, that is a general fact, I am an outliar

That is a very pessimistic outlook on life. This reminds me of men who say chaste women in these times are rare and everyone is out there engaging in some form of degeneracy. That's just a reflection of your environment and the people you surround yourself with. Plenty of chaste people in the world.

 

[Taij4an]

That is a very pessimistic outlook on life. This reminds me of men who say chaste women in these times are rare and everyone is out there engaging in some form of degeneracy. That's just a reflection of your environment and the people you surround yourself with. Plenty of chaste people in the world.

Nah seriously its just a fact
Women are different its easy for them to keep chaste