A history of early Jubaland, 600 page dissertation

[Thegoodshepherd]

The Pastoral Tribes of Northern Kenya 1800-1916

The most interesting thing for me was the heavy focus on the Harti in Jubaland. The Harti apparently had territory extending from the mouth of the Juba at Gobwen, up to Yonte and bordered the Bantu up the river.

 

[ReerGarissa]

Thank you for the article. Very important information in there. I could not stop reading it.

 

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Skimmed it before gonna give it a full read soon.

“Even as late as 1895 the political structure of the Ogaden could be described
as,
a limited monarchy, composed of a sultan with has council of sheiks or chieftains of clans, and bears a resemblance to that of the Sovereign and nobles ofearlyBritishhistory. Thewealthylordshold the offices of Prime Minister, Chief Judge, Commander in Chief and so forth by reason of the strength of
their following and their own social position. The tenure of their offices, land and property generally is to a great extent feudal.”

The Pastoral Tribes of Northern Kenya 1800-1916

The most interesting thing for me was the heavy focus on the Harti in Jubaland. The Harti apparently had territory extending from the mouth of the Juba at Gobwen, up to Yonte and bordered the Bantu up the river.

Whats more interesting to me is the seeming sharedness of territory there were Harti moving with Ogaden past Ceelwaaq and Wajir. Even with the Mareexan there was almost a Visa free pass between allied clans against Gaalo madow.The Darood clan seems to have been closer at that point than any time.

That spot Gobweyn is the same spot Suldaan Magan Yusuf would later attack the English explorer who crossed onto his land.

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

Skimmed it before gonna give it a full read soon.

“Even as late as 1895 the political structure of the Ogaden could be described
as,
a limited monarchy, composed of a sultan with has council of sheiks or chieftains of clans, and bears a resemblance to that of the Sovereign and nobles ofearlyBritishhistory. Thewealthylordshold the offices of Prime Minister, Chief Judge, Commander in Chief and so forth by reason of the strength of
their following and their own social position. The tenure of their offices, land and property generally is to a great extent feudal.”

Whats more interesting to me is the seeming sharedness of territory there were Harti moving with Ogaden past Ceelwaaq and Wajir. Even with the Mareexan there was almost a Visa free pass between allied clans against Gaalo madow.The Darood clan seems to have been closer at that point than any time.

The Ogaden seem to have been more centralized as a clan in the past. The power held by the sultans of the Awlyahan or MZ seems to have actually been real and not ceremonial. This idea of clan leaders being figureheads seems to be false.

As to your second point, the Ogaden basically gave the Harti the coast. All of the land that Harti inhabited was Ogaden land that they gave to the Harti traders. I have never heard of a Somali clan giving another clan land.

 

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The Ogaden seem to have been more centralized as a clan in the past. The power held by the sultans of the Awlyahan or MZ seems to have actually been real and not ceremonial. This idea of clan leaders being figureheads seems to be false.

As to your second point, the Ogaden basically gave the Harti the coast. All of the land that Harti inhabited was Ogaden land that they gave to the Harti traders. I have never heard of a Somali clan giving another clan land.

I have seen other points to suggest similiar to those findings it seems at times it was much more centralized like when Suldaan Cabdi Ibrahim was gaining land against the Gaalo Madow, Ugaas Nur Cubdhiye against various clans and Garaad Wiil Waals JigJiga expansion.

Suldaan Magan Yusufs time however seemed much more similiar to what was found in this paper atleast to me. I might try and print out all these documents and give it a better look.