A greedy Indian doctor in Michigan arrested 4 performing FGM on 2 Somali girls from Minnesota

[--Ajakis Lax Max--]

I agree. men should be fitted with chastity belts when they are born.

 

[madamelioness]

FGM is not always the answer. Girls should be taught self control at young age.

So should boys. It's these double standards that are the problem.

 

[Bohol]

So should boys. It's these double standards that are the problem.

True but it is not the samething that is why. Girls sleeping around out of wedlock brings great shame to the family, her community and her prospect of getting married are destroyed. Were's a guy's life is entirely different route.

 

[Gibiin-Udug]

This sick practice should be abolished!

Any woman who would do that to her daughter is purely evil..

 

[Foreman]

its a end justifies the means type situation. above all niggas want a virgin, and if it takes mutilating her vagina for her to remain a virgin then so be it. the whole practice is meant to benefit men at the end of the day

Nacas whitekinght ah badtahay oo luugta isku ku qarxeyay
Are you saying women can not stay virgin without FGM? Did I hear that right?

 

[Gambar]

True but it is not the samething that is why. Girls sleeping around out of wedlock brings great shame to the family, her community and her prospect of getting married are destroyed. Were's a guy's life is entirely different route.

Same for men.

 

[Gibiin-Udug]

Nacas whitekinght ah badtahay oo luugta isku ku qarxeyay
Are you saying women can not stay virgin without FGM? Did I hear that right?

He was being sarcastic!

 

[madamelioness]

True but it is not the samething that is why. Girls sleeping around out of wedlock brings great shame to the family, her community,
her clan and her prospect of getting married are destroyed. Were's a guy life is entirely different route.

And these guys who are outta control impregnating girls are not causing havoc in the community? This is the problem. This why young Somali men are out of control and becoming criminals because there are no consequences for their actions. They're absolved by their families and clan.

He commits a crime - one way ticket back home and he is gifted with a miskiin young girl and a wedding (all expenses paid)
He rapes a girl - he gets to marry his victim and all expenses paid
He impregnates a girl - he gets the choice to marry her (again all expenses paid) or he lies his face off/denies it and ruins her reputation in the process.

The girls aren't blameless, of course, but they always suffer the consequences and the guys do not carry any responsibility for their actions.

 

[Bohol]

And these guys who are outta control impregnating girls are not causing havoc in the community? This is the problem. This why young Somali men are out of control and becoming criminals because there are no consequences for their actions. They're absolved by their families and clan.

He commits a crime - one way ticket back home and he is gifted with a miskiin young girl and a wedding (all expenses paid)
He rapes a girl - he gets to marry his victim and all expenses paid
He impregnates a girl - he gets the choice to marry her (again all expenses paid) or he lies his face off/denies it and ruins her reputation in the process.

The girls aren't blameless, of course, but they always suffer the consequences and the guys do not carry any responsibility for their actions.

Inabti you're correct but it is what it is. Unfortunately we can't change the cultural perspective of it. Somali guys should be given more
responsibility and held for their actions I agree but that doesn't mean girls can sleep around without consequences (that view is held by
the entire world not just Somalis). Lets face it no one wants a as a daughter, sister or wife.Being a is one of the biggest shame
along with being gay in the Somali community.

 

[madamelioness]

Inabti you're correct but it is what it is. Unfortunately we can't change the cultural perspective of it. Somali guys should be given more
responsibility and held for their actions I agree but that doesn't mean girls can sleep around without consequences (that view is held by
the entire world not just Somalis).

The views held by the rest of the world do not concern me inabti. I care about my people and to me it is very concerning the message we are sending to these boys. I wasn't arguing that it means they should sleep around without consequences, but that chastity isn't required from women alone, ma garatay? We should be working towards changing this destructive mindset and not further perpetuating it by making excuses for it. There's no excuse for it at all.

 

[Tramo]

Nacas whitekinght ah badtahay oo luugta isku ku qarxeyay
Are you saying women can not stay virgin without FGM? Did I hear that right?

u missed the sarcasm

but its no joke that Somalis actually believe a girl will become a if she doesn't get it done. apparently fucking her shit all up is supposed to keep her a virgin. our reverence of chastity is commendable but we take that shit too far

 

[Bohol]

The views held by the rest of the world do not concern me inabti. I care about my people and to me it is very concerning the message we are sending to these boys. I wasn't arguing that it means they should sleep around without consequences, but that chastity isn't required from women alone, ma garatay? We should be working towards changing this destructive mindset and not further perpetuating it by making excuses for it. There's no excuse for it at all.

Where did I make excuses for them it is just the facts. No parent says "oh you are boy,
my son go f*ck around all the girls" , but if it happens the parent won't lose much sleep
over it compared to if it is was his daughter. Imagine a father hearing his daughter got
penetrated and impregnated by some Jamaican Tyrone out of wedlock, the father will
properly have a heart attack as he will be the joke of the community. That is the reality.

 

[madamelioness]

Where did I make excuses for them it is just the facts. No parent says "oh you are boy,
my son go f*ck around all the girls" , but if it happens the parent won't lose much sleep
over it compared if it is was his daughter. Imagine a father hearing his daughter got
penetrated and impregnated by some Jamaican Tyrone out of wedlock, the father will
properly have a heart attack as he will be the joke of the community. That is the reality.

Why get so graphic? bisinka..

Sheekada aan so gaabiyo - adiga you're fixated on the sexual act. I'm saying these boys should be taught to take responsibility for their actions and bear the consequences. They might start acting right markaas.

 

[Bohol]

Why get so graphic? bisinka..

Sheekada aan so gaabiyo - adiga you're fixated on the sexual act. I'm saying these boys should be taught to take responsibility for their actions and bear the consequences. They might start acting right markaas.

Inabti I am not against men being taught responsibility as well but all I am saying is
female sexuality and male sexuality are not the same, otherwise we would be lying to
ourselves. It is like comparing apples and oranges.I am all for guys being taught
responsibility such as not making girls pregnant out of wedlock, avoiding crime
etc.

 

[Ferrari]

just because they aren't the driving force doesn't mean some of the blame isn't on them either. why aren't fathers having a say in whether or not their daughter is mutilated. of course, like most thing Somali fathers are happy being bystanders with no input into their children's lives.

the mothers are to blame for continuing this barbaric practice but it also says a lot about the fathers who are so indifferent to what happens in their children's lives.

They are complacent at the very least. Both are to blame. I'd jail the mothers though since they are going out of their way to mutilate little girls.

 

[Aaegal]

I hope circumcisions also get banned, unless the person has phimosis. I think it's just as barbaric.

 

[madamelioness]

Inabti I am not against men being taught responsibility as well but all I am saying is
female sexuality and male sexuality are not the same, otherwise we would be lying to
ourselves. It is like comparing apples and oranges.

haye haye, it's not the same, but they should still be punished.

waxaa ka so horjeeda inee farxad ku nooladaan without some xanuun, niyad jab iyo rafaad.

 

[Bohol]

haye haye, it's not the same, but they should still be punished.

waxaa ka so horjeeda inee farxad ku nooladaan without some xanuun, niyad jab iyo rafaad.

Farxad ma jirto there is child support waiting for them till the child reaches 18+ , check this thread for example. So it is not true
that farahs always have a easy ride out . The west is the great equalizer, so there is consequences for guys as well for sleeping around.


https://www.somalispot.com/threads/bac-laaan-ba-ku-aasay-im-screwed-now.22704/

 

[Arman]

@madamelioness
To put it bluntly, I'm guessing @Duke of Bohol is trying to say women are easier to control...

 

[madamelioness]

@madamelioness
To put it bluntly, I'm guessing @Duke of Bohol is trying to say women are easier to control...

And what are you saying? Lets hear it. Duke waa kasaa, he has old-skool views and this is one of the things we disagree on.

Boys and girls need to be taught self-discipline and self respect from a young age. If you teach them this, then there's no need for barbaric practices, such as, FGM.