A fight breaks out between xaliimos (jarerwyne) vs madoow-Mareykan

[Khaem]

Nomads can't do shit on the land they expand on if they're not settling down. All they'll do is over graze and make it barren.

Yeah nomads launch the greatest conquests in history but it is often short lived due to the fact they never settle down and rule so they eventually get kicked out.

Examples of nomads who conquered and settled are the turks. They started in North Eastern Asia and now they rule all of central Asia and anatolia went from diverse Christians to a nation of Turks. Literally from one end of Asia to the other they settled. It's like if Somalis migrated and took over Senegal. Crazy.

Ofc we have the Mongols as well, largest land empire in history. Had they settled down and ruled and assimilated like other nomadic groups we might have seen much of Asia United under a Mongolian civilization. From China to the borders to Europe.

 

[Shaafici Mujaahid]

Nationality ≠ ethnicity, Somalis living in Europe with citizenship are not European. I have never met an elderly Somali who views them as Somali. Especially considering how users on here repeat that you need a Somali father to be Somali lol.

You're probably reer waqooyi. We have an issue with Madowweyn for some reason. I went to Mudug and people consider them somali.

 

[Naldos]

You're probably reer waqooyi. We have an issue with Madowweyn for some reason. I went to Mudug and people consider them somali.

I have already said I’m from the south. They are not Somali, the same way Somalis in Europe are not European.

 

[Natalie]

Shiidle and Makane are viewed as Somali back home. It's not a big deal.
They're good people and are undeserving of these hostil attacks online.

 

[Daadhi Tarree]

read herder warfare by the oromo historian Oba, or Changing Identifications and Alliances in North-East Africa - Volume 2 by professor Günther Schlee. When Arsi oromo expelled the somalis (Digil ancestors) who lived in western Bale many omotic people followed them.

When was this?

 

[Shaafici Mujaahid]

I have already said I’m from the south. They are not Somali, the same way Somalis in Europe are not European.

I guess Nabi Muhammad(SAW) is not Arab because his ancestor Ibrahim (AS) was babalonyian. I guess African Americans are cadaan because they are paternally Europeans. Ethnicity is a cultural thing that has a lot to do with assimilation unlike clan. That is why some Somalis are different sub haplogroups and different haplogroups thousands of years ago. There is no common ancestor for an ethnicity but there is for tribe. Learn the difference between the two garac yahoo.

 

[Naldos]

I guess Nabi Muhammad(SAW) is not Arab because his ancestor Ibrahim (AS) was babalonyian. I guess African Americans are cadaan because they are paternally Europeans. Ethnicity is a cultural thing that has a lot to do with assimilation unlike clan. That is why some Somalis are different sub haplogroups and different haplogroups thousands of years ago. There is no common ancestor for an ethnicity but there is for tribe. Learn the difference between the two garac yahoo.

Are you insane? You can never “assimilate” into another ethnicity, will Somalis in Sweden ever become Swedish? They could marry a Swede, avoid all Somalis and only interact with Swedes and they would still be Somali, never Swedish. It’s funny watching you guys jump through hoops to try and make these people Somali lol.

 

[Khaem]

I guess Nabi Muhammad(SAW) is not Arab because his ancestor Ibrahim (AS) was babalonyian. I guess African Americans are cadaan because they are paternally Europeans. Ethnicity is a cultural thing that has a lot to do with assimilation unlike clan. That is why some Somalis are different sub haplogroups and different haplogroups thousands of years ago. There is no common ancestor for an ethnicity but there is for tribe. Learn the difference between the two garac yahoo.

Keep your bullshit "ethnicity is cultural" away. Somali is a distinct ethnic group.

Arabs descend from ibrahim you idiot. Ethnic groups diverge and create new ethnicities. Somali and Oromo split 7,000 years ago and became seperate ethnic groups.
African Americans just have European admixture, average is 30% or less. They are still 70-80% West african dumbass.

Sure somalis may have different haplogroups, so what? They don't tell the full picture. If you get 2 somalis and 1 chinese and do a dna test. It will show the somalis are related and cluster together whilst the Chinese man's genetics will be vastly different to the somalis. Ethnicity is a real thing don't bring that leftist revisionist nonsense. Assimilation is a thing, no one says bantus weren't assimilated, we are saying they are not the same as ethnic somalis which is a genetic Fact you cannot argue with.

Like the other guy said, you cannot just assimilate into another ethnicity. You have your blood. I as a Somali cannot go to China and speak Chinese adopt their culture and say I am an ethnic Han Chinese. That doesn't make sense, genetically I am not related to Chinese people at all.
You can have admixture but that still doesn't make you a part of an ethnicity, my great grandmother was Yemeni, ca I go around and say I'm Arab? Ofc not, that's just admixture, I am a somali.

Likewise, African Americans have English and Scottish admixture but if they go to England and claim ethnic English they will be laughed at because that's ridiculous. They are still essentially west africans with some north European admixture just like somali Bantus are south east Africans with some Somali admixture.

 

[Shaafici Mujaahid]

Are you insane? You can never “assimilate” into another ethnicity, will Somalis in Sweden ever become Swedish? They could marry a Swede, avoid all Somalis and only interact with Swedes and they would still be Somali, never Swedish. It’s funny watching you guys jump through hoops to try and make these people Somali lol.

Yes they can. Just like drake's son if he marry an Cadaan he will become. Cadaan. In Islam we have A'aarab and Musta'arab. The hadiith and quran speak of both. You are against Islam if your against asimalation. Some Geri Kombe and Shekhaal decend from Maghreebis. Does that make the Arab? What about somalis with J haplogroup? You lot are fools.

 

[Shaafici Mujaahid]

Keep your bullshit "ethnicity is cultural" away. Somali is a distinct ethnic group.

Arabs descend from ibrahim you idiot. Ethnic groups diverge and create new ethnicities. Somali and Oromo split 7,000 years ago and became seperate ethnic groups.
African Americans just have European admixture, average is 30% or less. They are still 70-80% West african dumbass.

Sure somalis may have different haplogroups, so what? They don't tell the full picture. If you get 2 somalis and 1 chinese and do a dna test. It will show the somalis are related and cluster together whilst the Chinese man's genetics will be vastly different to the somalis. Ethnicity is a real thing don't bring that leftist revisionist nonsense. Assimilation is a thing, no one says bantus weren't assimilated, we are saying they are not the same as ethnic somalis which is a genetic Fact you cannot argue with.

Like the other guy said, you cannot just assimilate into another ethnicity. You have your blood. I as a Somali cannot go to China and speak Chinese adopt their culture and say I am an ethnic Han Chinese. That doesn't make sense, genetically I am not related to Chinese people at all.
You can have admixture but that still doesn't make you a part of an ethnicity, my great grandmother was Yemeni, ca I go around and say I'm Arab? Ofc not, that's just admixture, I am a somali.

Likewise, African Americans have English and Scottish admixture but if they go to England and claim ethnic English they will be laughed at because that's ridiculous. They are still essentially west africans with some north European admixture just like somali Bantus are south east Africans with some Somali admixture.

I guess jews are Arabs from decending from Ibrahim you idiot. The arabized arabs decend from Ismael. You fool. Ibrahim was Babylonian not Arab.

 

[Khaem]

Yes they can. Just like drake's son if he marry an Cadaan he will become. Cadaan. In Islam we have A'aarab and Musta'arab. The hadiith and quran speak of both. You are against Islam if your against asimalation. Some Geri Kombe and Shekhaal decend from Maghreebis. Does that make the Arab? What about somalis with J haplogroup? You lot are fools.

You are describing ethnic assimilation. They marry into the population and their children become half and then full within 2 generations.
But somali Bantus are still distinctly bantu. They do not look like us because they never married into ethnic Somalis in large numbers enough. But they still took on somali language and culture, They are what's called cultural assimilation,

 

[Khaem]

I guess jews are Arabs from decending from Ibrahim you idiot. The arabized arabs decend from Ismael. You fool. Ibrahim was Babylonian not Arab.

You missed the point completely. I said that ethnicities diverge and create new ethnicities over time. Jews and arabs would have both been descended from a babylonian but over time they became isolated and became a distinct group of people with their own genetic clusters although still having some similarities to their Semetic cousins.
If this basic thing of diverging into new ethnicities didn't exist we would all be the tribe of Adam. But we diverged into distinct people. That's basics

 

[Angelina]

It's not my fault your fellow Somalis are incensed I won't call non-Somalis Somali. I feel the same about the Asian looking ones. Take that diversity crap elsewhere, this ain't South America.

Xamar has always been diverse. I think non southerners really need to leave Reer Xamar cadcads and Bantus alone. Try say to an older Somali Xamari that Reer Xamar cads aren’t Somali and they’ll laugh at you. Some Famous landmarks in Xamar have been built by them and you want to strip them of being in Somalia? Hell no. The amount of former historical buildings in Shingani district in Xamar and the history is immense with Cadcads also being at the forefront. Their contribution to Xamar is treasured!

 

[Audrey Hepburn]

Xamar has always been diverse. I think non southerners really need to leave Reer Xamar cadcads and Bantus alone. Try say to an older Somali Xamari that Reer Xamar cads aren’t Somali and they’ll laugh at you. Some Famous landmarks in Xamar have been built by them and you want to strip them of being in Somalia? Hell no. The amount of former historical buildings in Shingani district in Xamar and the history is immense with Cadcads also being at the forefront. Their contribution to Xamar is treasured!

You can have your opinion.

 

[Dualke]

How some Somalis react when you call Somali Bantus Somalis. Put down the calipers. View attachment 284629

These are also the same people that cry when whites spew similar rhetoric towards minorities

 

[Shaafici Mujaahid]

You missed the point completely. I said that ethnicities diverge and create new ethnicities over time. Jews and arabs would have both been descended from a babylonian but over time they became isolated and became a distinct group of people with their own genetic clusters although still having some similarities to their Semetic cousins.
If this basic thing of diverging into new ethnicities didn't exist we would all be the tribe of Adam. But we diverged into distinct people. That's basics

Arabs existed before Ismael wallahi I have never seen such a doqan like this in history talking about basics. The arabs who are arabized are from Ismael. They have distinct DNA and different haplgroups than those who are not. As for the Somali jweyne being distinct, that is true but they still look Somali for the most part.

Wasiir Cabdifatax Qasim (J-weyne)

Omar Filish (Abgaal)

These two are not different ethnicities for sure.

 

[Khaem]

Arabs existed before Ismael wallahi I have never seen such a doqan like this in history talking about basics. The arabs who are arabized are from Ismael. They have distinct DNA and different haplgroups than those who are not. As for the Somali jweyne being distinct, that is true but they still look Somali for the most part.

Wasiir Cabdifatax Qasim (J-weyne)

View attachment 285200

Omar Filish (Abgaal)

These two are not different ethnicities for sure.

You pulled up some somali admixed Jweyne. I told you I am talking about those without heavy somali admixture

 

[Shaafici Mujaahid]

You pulled up some somali admixed Jweyne. I told you I am talking about those without heavy somali admixture

Iis he not ethnically Somali? Most Jweyne are admixtured unlike you think.

 

[Shaafici Mujaahid]

This is a Madow weyne subclan in Hiiraan.

"BUT BUT" DEY AR ADMIXED"


Amuus and sit down. Nobody in Somalia knows what Bantu is. Somalia Somaali baa leh. J'reer iy Jileec. We are all admixed one way or the other.

 

[SOULSEARCHING]

They knocked them out omg I give them a applause