A Coup in the UK

Calaf

Veni Vidi Vici
2022 CHESS CHAMP
GENERALISSIMO
VIP
When I signed the Church House Declaration on Tuesday pledging to uphold the sovereignty of Parliament, I warned that what Boris Johnson was threatening to do to secure his reckless ‘no deal’ Brexit amounted to a coup.

With today’s news Johnson will ask the Queen to suspend Parliament, that coup has already started.

It may not seem like a coup to members of the public who aren’t seeing tanks or soldiers on the streets. But constitutionally, that is what is happening.

Britain is a parliamentary democracy. Power rests in Parliament, in the House of Commons, and the government – the executive – has to seek the consent of MPs for its legislation. By suspending Parliament, Johnson is sweeping away the main pillar of our democracy. The implications could not be more serious.

His intention is clear. By proroguing, or suspending, Parliament for effectively five weeks at such a critical time in our country’s history, he is attempting to make it impossible for MPs – all democratically elected – to hold the government to account. Shutting down Parliament would give Johnson’s Number 10 free rein to carry on with its Brexit policy which will spell disaster for this country.

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And that’s not all.

Boris Johnson and his right-wing cabal of ministers and insiders are attempting to paint this as the government standing up for the people against politicians. He has clearly spent the summer studying the playbook of populist dictators the world over.

The implications are huge and incredibly serious. If a prime minister can suspend parliament to deliver a ‘no deal’ Brexit, what will the government try to do next with no democratic scrutiny or oversight?

What makes this even worse is that the policy Johnson is pursuing – crashing out of the European Union without a deal – does not have a democratic mandate. Despite some ministerial claims, the Leave campaign never said the UK might leave the EU without a deal. In fact, they were saying the exact opposite. As recently as this spring, Leave campaign figurehead and Cabinet minister Michael Gove said: “We didn’t vote to leave without a deal. That wasn’t the message of the campaign I helped to lead.”

This is not just a constitutional matter, important though that is. As the leaked report of the Government’s own Operation Yellowhammer revealed, a ‘no deal’ Brexit would be a massive act of self-harm for Britain, involving shortages of fresh food, fuel and medicines; a risk of a rise in public unrest and community tensions; passengers and freight being delayed at ports and airports and a hard Irish border, sparking protests.

Brexiteers claimed leaving the EU was all about “taking back control”. This is not the British people, or their elected representatives, taking back control. This is a blatant seizure of power by a small group of people in Downing Street.

Now, more than ever, MPs must stand up and be counted. I’m pleased that more than 200 from both sides of the House of Commons have already signed the Church House Declaration, pledging to block Johnson’s coup.

This is not just our country’s economic future at stake. This is our democracy at stake. All of us must be ready to defend it.
 

Basra

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Let Them Eat Cake
VIP
Boris and Queen meeting?

Queen: Please don't sit on my Sofa`. Just Stand and make it Short. :)

Boris: Ye or Ney for Brexit?

Queen: Curtsy. Walk backward 10 steps, & exit the door.


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Calaf

Veni Vidi Vici
2022 CHESS CHAMP
GENERALISSIMO
VIP
Boris and Queen meeting?

Queen: Please don't sit on my Sofa`. Just Stand and make it Short. :)

Boris: Ye or Ney for Brexit?

Queen: Curtsy. Walk backward 10 steps, & exit the door.


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RedStar

The Bad Ali of Jigjiga
VIP
It's not a coup. Boris is actually not breaking any laws here. He's only strong arming the parliament into accepting his No-deal Brexit plan.

If parliament is to block Boris's plan, they better act quickly.
 

Apollo

VIP
It's not a coup. Boris is actually not breaking any laws here. He's only strong arming the parliament into accepting his No-deal Brexit plan.

If parliament is to block Boris's plan, they better act quickly.

I am looking forward to October 31st, looking to see if the mad lads actually go through with no-deal, a verily historic moment. Very anticlimactic if there is another extension.
 

RedStar

The Bad Ali of Jigjiga
VIP
I am looking forward to October 31st, looking to see if the mad lads actually go through with no-deal, a verily historic moment. Very anticlimactic if there is another extension.

I thought Boris was bluffing. The man explicitly said that a no-deal brexit has one in a million chance of happening before he was elected and now we're sprinting towards a no-deal.

Lib Dems, Labour and co. take the cup for the most useless opposition in British history. They have the majority of the country on their side, yet they're bickering amongst themselves.

All they need to do is mobilise and trigger a vote of no confidence. Boris has many enemies within the Tory party itself. He won't survive a VONC.
 

Calaf

Veni Vidi Vici
2022 CHESS CHAMP
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VIP
It's not a coup. Boris is actually not breaking any laws here. He's only strong arming the parliament into accepting his No-deal Brexit plan.

If parliament is to block Boris's plan, they better act quickly.
He pledged not to suspend parliament
Ensure that there was a not a no-deal
*Gets Elected*
Is going to suspend parliament
High chance of a no-deal
 

Basra

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Can someone help me understand. What exactly does a NO DEAL BREXIT mean??

Does it mean- YES I WANT BRITAIN TO EXIT with no condition put on them?
 

Calaf

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Can someone help me understand. What exactly does a NO DEAL BREXIT mean??

Does it mean- YES I WANT BRITAIN TO EXIT with no condition put on them?
No deal means:

1) the UK would immediately leave the European Union (EU) with no agreement

2) The UK would leave the single market and customs union - arrangements designed to help trade between EU members by eliminating checks and tariffs (The taxes on imports).

3) They leave EU institutions such as the European Court of Justice and Europol, European Police Service

4) Unfavorable terms on the UK

So basically, they cannot deal with EU until there is a Trade agreement with the EU or each nation
 

Basra

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No deal means:

1) the UK would immediately leave the European Union (EU) with no agreement

2) The UK would leave the single market and customs union - arrangements designed to help trade between EU members by eliminating checks and tariffs (The taxes on imports).

3) They leave EU institutions such as the European Court of Justice and Europol, European Police Service

4) Unfavorable terms on the UK

So basically, they cannot deal with EU until there is a Trade agreement with the EU or each nation


So Boris wants # 1 ?


I think trade agreements always existed among Europe countries
 

Calaf

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2022 CHESS CHAMP
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VIP
So Boris wants # 1 ?


I think trade agreements always existed among Europe countries
There is only 1 trade agreement within Europe, and that is the European Trade Agreement (EU)
Boris want a better deal, then the one that Theresa May negotiated, but they are being stubborn
Boris would want a better deal or #1
 

Basra

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There is only 1 trade agreement within Europe, and that is the European Trade Agreement (EU)
Boris want a better deal, then the one that Theresa May negotiated, but they are being stubborn
Boris would want a better deal or #1


What would be a better deal entail in boris view? Has he published it in details requirements he likes?
 

Basra

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Basically, they want to pay less and also not have the Irish Backstop (The border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland. After Brexit, it will become the only land border between the UK and the European Union).
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46237012


So UK basically wants to join in the EU without them paying too much. It scuks to be the ONLY European country with the strongest currency and the one nation that matters in the EU.

Its like The United states compared to the rest of the world. China, included. Everybody expects USA to give things for free or taken for granted. The fields are not equal. Thats why Trump is giving the world a hard time. No more taking advantage- of American "Advantage"
 

Calaf

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So UK basically wants to join in the EU without them paying too much. It scuks to be the ONLY European country with the strongest currency and the one nation that matters in the EU.

Its like The United states compared to the rest of the world. China, included. Everybody expects USA to give things for free or taken for granted. The fields are not equal. Thats why Trump is giving the world a hard time. No more taking advantage- of American "Advantage"
They want to Leave, without paying £39 billion from the "Divorce Bill"
The UK doesn't need the EU no more. The will of the people spoke
If they come out with no deal, the £39 billion bill for commitment is no longer strictly speaking owed to the EU
 

Calaf

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2022 CHESS CHAMP
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Its like The United states compared to the rest of the world. China, included. Everybody expects USA to give things for free or taken for granted. The fields are not equal. Thats why Trump is giving the world a hard time. No more taking advantage- of American "Advantage"
Its more of a Nationalistic agenda from him, since no other president has did this on a large scale, like Trump is.
 

Basra

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But do we know Boris "Other" deal other than exit the EU completely? What does Boris Want???
 

Basra

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Calaf

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I dont have subscription. But i get it now, some how. There is no grey area for this mess. Either Get out or Get in. The Europe Economy and in a small way, the USA economy is suffering as a result
Its Get In Or Lose out
Although the UK needs EU, the way EU need UK, if the UK leaves, it affects them and US
US will get a deal out of this, and make it work to their benefit
Winner = Rest of World
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-cease-immediately-in-event-of-no-deal-brexit
 
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