76th Anniversary of the SYL

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Abdurahman_somali

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Wasn't Egal AUN part of the party? The SYL was by far the most popular one all over, they had offices all over Somalia proper and in Djibouti, Jigjiga, Harar, and NFD. It didn't represent any one group only.
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Well first of all they had offices in "all over Somalia" is incorrect they had offices in Italian Somalia and British Somaliland is the correct expression or you can say the Somali Republic, cause at that time Somalia only was the south. Even today the correct name must be the Somali republic. Somalia and Somaliland as well are our colonial names.

Cigal AUN was as Fidmeer said not part of SYL at that time, they had a very little presence in Somaliland. The negotiations started around the year 1957 and the three parties from the Somaliland side were SNL the biggest party and the party of Cigal, NUF the second biggest party and the very small party (within Somaliland small) SYL. According to the Marxum they started the talks in 1957, because they wanted to unite the five Somalis and Somalia was the only partner to negotiate with.

Cigal AUN was against the union from the very beginning, but you have to understand that both parties SNL and NUF were "Isaaq dominated" parties, hence they accused him of blocking the union so that he can become the head of the state of Somaliland (Isaaq hate it when other Isaaq rule them). All the mentioned events can be seen in his speech in Youtube, he is a brilliant speaker look it up if you are interested.
 
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Abdurahman_somali said:
Well first of all they had offices in "all over Somalia" is incorrect they had offices in Italian Somalia and British Somaliland is the correct expression or you can say the Somali Republic, cause at that time Somalia only was the south. Even today the correct name must be the Somali republic. Somalia and Somaliland as well are our colonial names.

Cigal AUN was as Fidmeer said not part of SYL at that time, they had a very little presence in Somaliland. The negotiations started around the year 1957 and the three parties from the Somaliland side were SNL the biggest party and the party of Cigal, NUF the second biggest party and the very small party (within Somaliland small) SYL. According to the Marxum they started the talks in 1957, because they wanted to unite the five Somalis and Somalia was the only partner to negotiate with.

Cigal AUN was against the union from the very beginning, but you have to understand that both parties SNL and NUF were "Isaaq dominated" parties, hence they accused him of blocking the union so that he can become the head of the state of Somaliland (Isaaq hate it when other Isaaq rule them). All the mentioned events can be seen in his speech in Youtube, he is a brilliant speaker look it up if you are interested.
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I don't use the words British, or Italian, I don't like constantly bringing up colonialism. Somalia and Somali Republic are interchangeable, always have been. Look at old videos, and here is an example on the passport.

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Its a strange but often repeated argument on here. And yeah the vast majority of Somalis everywhere wanted to unite into a single country, it was a popular sentiment.

Another thing is the British who spoke English, called all of our land Somaliland, French, British, Italian, Ethiopian Somaliland. The Italians Speaking their language did the same thing, like Somalia Britanica, Somalia Italiana. They're not unique names just different languages. But the country was referred to as Somalia as much as it was the Somali Republic. the latin -ia suffix is very common in many countries names today.

The rest of your post was informative, ill look into the speeches, thanks.
 
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embarassing said:
I don't use the words British, or Italian, I don't like constantly bringing up colonialism. Somalia and Somali Republic are interchangeable, always have been. Look at old videos, and here is an example on the passport.

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Its a strange but often repeated argument on here. And yeah the vast majority of Somalis everywhere wanted to unite into a single country, it was a popular sentiment.

Another thing is the British who spoke English, called all of our land Somaliland, French, British, Italian, Ethiopian Somaliland. The Italians Speaking their language did the same thing, like Somalia Britanica, Somalia Italiana. They're not unique names just different languages. But the country was referred to as Somalia as much as it was the Somali Republic. the latin -ia suffix is very common in many countries names today.

The rest of your post was informative, ill look into the speeches, thanks.
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It is true British called all our Land Somaliland, but the suffix -land was still in terms of politics used for the north. And the suffix -ia is latin and came from the italian, hence Somaliland and Somalia are both colonial names. After the union it would be better to call the country just "Somaal" (okay it sounds weird at the beginning), but that's only my opinion.

Here is the speech sister:
 
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Abdurahman_somali said:
It is true British called all our Land Somaliland, but the suffix -land was still in terms of politics used for the north. And the suffix -ia is latin and came from the italian, hence Somaliland and Somalia are both colonial names. After the union it would be better to call the country just "Somaal" (okay it sounds weird at the beginning), but that's only my opinion.

Here is the speech sister:
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Thats simply not true, its a modern argument for obvious reasons, there was no distinct area called Somaliland and one called Somalia.

Anyway, thanks ill check it out.
 
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Abdurahman_somali

embarassing said:
Thats simply not true, its a modern argument for obvious reasons, there was no distinct area called Somaliland and one called Somalia.

Anyway, thanks ill check it out.
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Well it is not, but for mordern political reasons people deny these simple facts. After Ramadan we can have this debate, but for now i'm to tired.
 
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