5pillars criticise muslim women for watching barbie

[AMusee]

@Omar del Sur we have discussed this before and you know how madkhalis support liberalism, zionism, secularization. Every conscious Muslim knows. When Madkhalis rabidly defend liberal kings and their policy then what is the natural conclusion?

When you support him in his raves and halloween parties and locking up every scholar who says anything against it what is the logical conclusion? When you support him allowing Zionist isreali companies to edit Quran and hadith out of Muslim childrens textbooks in Saudi, what does that say about Madkhalis?

Your entire rant about DH and bringing him up today stems from the one time he critcized halloween parties MBS was throwing and the madkhalis have been obsessed since.

Do not go on a deranged rant about revolution and war like you always do, try answering the questions.

 

[Omar del Sur]

@AMusee when have I defended concerts. concerts are haraam. also I believe a lot of those so-called scholars that got arrested are not anywhere near as innocent as the ikhwani outlets like 5pillars would have us believe.

 

[Omar del Sur]

also who are these twitter nobodies... can you post anything from any actual scholars talking about "Madkhalis"?... oh wait, you can't... because there are no scholars with you

 

[AMusee]

@AMusee when have I defended concerts. concerts are haraam. also I believe a lot of those so-called scholars that got arrested are not anywhere near as innocent as the ikhwani outlets like 5pillars would have us believe.

also who are these twitter nobodies... can you post anything from any actual scholars talking about "Madkhalis"?... oh wait, you can't... because there are no scholars with you

This is madkhalism. He can clearly see the social engineering project to destroy Islam in Saudi with the entertainment authority and arresting of scholars and this is his response.

For readers, that is madkhalism. MBS/MBZ come before everything for them. He would even slander innocent scholars detained for criticizing raves by calling the "ikhwani" as if that is an insult.

Anyways, if you have any sense you can see how you defend liberalism. Keep defending MBS liberalization project, madkhalism has been exposed to most Muslims through it.

 

[Omar del Sur]

@Omar del Sur we have discussed this before and you know how madkhalis support liberalism, zionism, secularization. Every conscious Muslim knows. When Madkhalis rabidly defend liberal kings and their policy then what is the natural conclusion?

When you support him in his raves and halloween parties

I don't support liberalism, zionism or secularization. liberals hate my guts. if I was on the same side as them that wouldn't be the case.

"every conscious Muslim knows"... you say this and still no scholars are with you.

I'm a proponent of liberalism because I support monarchies? Liberalism was and is a revolutionary anti-monarchical movement that opposed divine right of kings.

It's true I'm closer to "divine right of kings" than to the "popular sovereignty" doctrine that replaced. "divine right of kings" is part of what liberalism was fighting against.

anyways, I am not saying I support or don't support whatever government. but saying "you're a liberal" for supporting monarchies is kind of a really weird accusation. the actual, authentic liberal stance is for the elimination of monarchies and that's why the final boss of Western "Muslim liberals" Yasir Qadhi holds the orthodox liberal stance of being anti-Saudi.

another thing is I admire Saudi for its founding principles and I respect it for promoting Salafiyyah. I support Sheikh Fawzan, Sheikh Ibn Baz, Sheikh Muhammaf ibn Abdul Wahhab, etc.

I don't know about MBS and it's not my job to rant about governments on the other side of the ocean and then past going from West Africa all the way past East Africa, across an ocean and a continent... I don't have an obligation to talk about... honestly I don't have any obligation to talk about any government. I mean I think it's good to talk about certain kaffir governments like Macron if you are familiar with the situation but I don't believe in publically talking against Muslim rulers and I don't have any intention to takfiring the Saudi government.

btw I don't support raves or Halloween. and I cut it out where you mention scholars because I don't know the details of every single case.

this whole thing requires you to lie. claiming I support liberalism is very clearly a lie as I obviously am very much against liberalism. you say I suppory zionism, liberalism, halloween... those are all things I'm against. your argument isn't very good if you have to base it on lying. and then you still have no scholars.

 

[Omar del Sur]

This is madkhalism. He can clearly see the social engineering project to destroy Islam in Saudi with the entertainment authority and arresting of scholars and this is his response.

For readers, that is madkhalism. MBS/MBZ come before everything for them. He would even slander innocent scholars detained for criticizing raves by calling the "ikhwani" as if that is an insult.

Anyways, if you have any sense you can see how you defend liberalism. Keep defending MBS liberalization project, madkhalism has been exposed to most Muslims through it.

""ikhwani" as if it's an insult"... so you reveal yourself as being pro-ikhwani. this just shows I'm right try to sound the alarm as to the widespread ikhwani subversion that is taking place. it is not really about Saudi. you can point to haraam things in any country. it is an agenda of pushing ikhwani ideology. it is a war for ikhwani ideology to overtake Salafiyyah.

 

[AMusee]

I don't support liberalism, zionism or secularization. liberals hate my guts. if I was on the same side as them that wouldn't be the case.

"every conscious Muslim knows"... you say this and still no scholars are with you.

I'm a proponent of liberalism because I support monarchies? Liberalism was and is a revolutionary anti-monarchical movement that opposed divine right of kings.

It's true I'm closer to "divine right of kings" than to the "popular sovereignty" doctrine that replaced. "divine right of kings" is part of what liberalism was fighting against.

anyways, I am not saying I support or don't support whatever government. but saying "you're a liberal" for supporting monarchies is kind of a really weird accusation. the actual, authentic liberal stance is for the elimination of monarchies and that's why the final boss of Western "Muslim liberals" Yasir Qadhi holds the orthodox liberal stance of being anti-Saudi.

another thing is I admire Saudi for its founding principles and I respect it for promoting Salafiyyah. I support Sheikh Fawzan, Sheikh Ibn Baz, Sheikh Muhammaf ibn Abdul Wahhab, etc.

I don't know about MBS and it's not my job to rant about governments on the other side of the ocean and then past going from West Africa all the way past East Africa, across an ocean and a continent... I don't have an obligation to talk about... honestly I don't have any obligation to talk about any government. I mean I think it's good to talk about certain kaffir governments like Macron if you are familiar with the situation but I don't believe in publically talking against Muslim rulers and I don't have any intention to takfiring the Saudi government.

btw I don't support raves or Halloween. and I cut it out where you mention scholars because I don't know the details of every single case.

this whole thing requires you to lie. claiming I support liberalism is very clearly a lie as I obviously am very much against liberalism. you say I suppory zionism, liberalism, halloween... those are all things I'm against. your argument isn't very good if you have to base it on lying. and then you still have no scholars.

I dont know if you think you are being convincing or that you are making sense.

I laid it out simply for you.

You support MBS/MBZ liberalization policies and defend it rabidly. You will slander oppressed imprisoned scholars so they can carry out their liberalization project and neutralize all scholars who would oppose it. You literally only dislike DH because he merely *criticized* MBS halloween parties.

Therefore you indirectly support liberalism. Just like Yasir Qadhi all your actions indirectly support a liberalization project. Madkhalis and liberal imams in the west have the same job and aim for the same end result.

 

[Omar del Sur]

I dont know if you think you are being convincing or that you are making sense.

I laid it out simply for you.

You support MBS/MBZ liberalization policies and defend it rabidly. You will slander oppressed imprisoned scholars so they can carry out their liberalization project and neutralize all scholars who would oppose it. You literally only dislike DH because he merely *criticized* MBS halloween parties.

Therefore you indirectly support liberalism. Just like Yasir Qadhi all your actions indirectly support a liberalization project. Madkhalis and liberal imams in the west have the same job and aim for the same end result.

this post really illustrates the proof against your position so I'm glad to quote it so it's there in case you try to change it.

there are two issues

1- the scholars. look- some of them were definitely ikhwani types. yes, I feel no sympathy for ikhwani types who get arrested by the Saudi government. threatening the security and promoting people to fight their governments is kind of a big deal.

2- anyways, this scholar issue is the only one where you can point to me really making a counternarrative in explaining what Saudi does.

I don't support halloween or raves or things like that.

the real structure of your argument against me, putting aside things you use to distract... your real core argument against "Madkhalis" is like this and it is completely nonsense:

1- not publically ranting about such-and-such government means you are a bootlicker of them
2- Salafis don't go around publically ranting about the Saudi government
3- therefore, you have a license to go around and harass random Salafis by calling them bootlickers of the Saudi government....

now the outline I've made here is a little flawed because it doesn't address how you pretend "Madkhalis" and Salafis are a distinct thing.... but what falls under "Madkhalism" according to the anti-Madkhali movement (not publically ranting against the Saudi government) is something that describes ordinary Salafis. In fact- pretty much all Salafis but leaving out the kharawij pretending to Salafis. "anti-Madkhalism" is a pipe line to actual khawarij ideology.

"anti-Madkhalism"
shi'ism
liberal westernized elements
etc..... all of them unite against ahlus sunnah/ salafis. it's interesting how Iran and DH still have the exact same end point of being focused against Saudi