50 Years Ago Today.......

DR OSMAN

AF NAAREED
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@Creed in all honesty I love debating and growing my knowledge but runta in aan ku sheego waxba kama roona, I am majertenist. I will always consider u 'shisheeye', there is absolutely not a single word you can write or say or post that will change that. I will always study you only to see how to defeat you and the tactics you use which is clearly easy in ONLINE world, it's simply disinformation war, it's not that sophisticated, creating false narratives with no confirmation evidence and so forth and the last tactic u guys use is to 'criticize' the other party rather then proving why your better first so then u can brand me the b22n and the one who wants live of hamar etc and all my allegations which I feel are strongly supported evidence in abuudwaq, gedo not thriving so u want hamar money huh? same issue 91 happened was they thought darod was 'sucking' them dry and helping themselves. We at least went back home and said listen WE CAN SURVIVE HAWIYE, but u didn't so I am suprised your elected at all if evidence is assessed that u cant survive on your own so ppl can say ninkani anuu raba inu igu noolaado iyo degmadayda. Yes this is how hawiye see thinks.

I cant change it, do i agree with it, nope. Hamar aint no different to any other city if the govt leaves, the infrastructure funding will collapse, it will become old city as people go and move where there is work, there is no other reason hamar got bigger, if u take the govt, they can't survive on their own regardless how large the population is.

I always give shisheeye(gaal, muslim or somali or anyone who doesnt come in my reero) the farole look. Its a powerful statement declaring majertenist domination

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Calaf

Veni Vidi Vici
2022 CHESS CHAMP
GENERALISSIMO
VIP
According to my father at the time people assumed he was doing a 'durbaan qaran' over ogadeniya not because he really cared, just so he can keep us busy on an enemy while he can continue his government intact as he knew opposition will rise up if their not busy on national duties. WUU NAGU CABAYE SI UU KURSIGASI UU SI HAYSTO ACCORDING TO OLD MAJERTEN. That's their view anyways, I have to respect it as an event like siyad barre intentions can be translated with many opinions not just one opinion ma garatay.

If I make political move today, you guys will all come running in having your differing views why I made that policy decision, Majerten were assured you took the power by force, noone wanted u sxb you were b22n runti, umada idin ma rabin, but I guess it worked now they love u huh as u brain washed them with abbo siyad branding and the hawiye era helped u a-lot since you are the last abbo they remember. I am vicious majertenist sxb u can sell that shit to koonfurta but not me ok
I ain't trying to impose my views on you, but just stating a generic opinion.
Has Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmed AUN been through this much scrutiny like MSB?
Has he been as atrocious as MSB?
We did not brainwash anyone but instead found a new light, Anti-Triblism.
 

Diaspora ambassador

''Dagaalka gala'' Garaad Jaamac Garaad Cali
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Siyaad barre had the cards in his hands. It is true that he delayed the civil war. However he instigated the brutal civil war, he used fighter jets for God sake.

Instead he could have United the tribes under a bit of pressure. But no he was hell bent on keeping power the man became the enemy of most of Somalis . It is because of him that the isaaq broke away, the harti became autonomous and the Ogaden and marexaan autonomous in the most difficult region.
This is all his doing at the end of the day.

Hence why a lot of Somalis dislike him nicely said.
 

Jiron

wanaag
NABADOON
VIP
I call it the era of fitna, because everyone views the events that happened differently and every one is correct. When we are the victims, we scream at the top of our lungs, when we are the aggressor, we justify it by deflecting the blame. All in All, everyone has a point on how they feel and we must accept that this debate will never end. We have to let it go but we MUST learn from the past mistakes for a brighter future. AUN to the dead and may long live Somalia :)
 
Those was China gift not kacaan money. Beside this from 1960 till 1991 we use to give tax to xamar. All we could is mini port?
So Prozac and other mj get credit for what Chinese are building today but not siyaad Barre.:russ:
Your people brought siyaad Barre into power on the back of shooting one of there own if you want anybody to blame look @ ali saleeban:manny:
 
I think they forget PL's main source of income and importance, Bosasso port, was built by Siad in the 80s. Along with the Garowe-Bossaso highway.
I never take serious criticism from these groups who benefit from state infrastructure.
I wish he never existed tbh majority of us don't really gain much from him today:mjdontkno:
The only people who will feel the affect will be those who about him ironically:mjdontkno:
 

Calaf

Veni Vidi Vici
2022 CHESS CHAMP
GENERALISSIMO
VIP
So Prozac and other mj get credit for what Chinese are building today but not siyaad Barre.:russ:
Your people brought siyaad Barre into power on the back of shooting one of there own if you want anybody to blame look @ ali saleeban:manny:
We have people like HSM and SSA who treated the cofffers as their personal accounts
And yet we still are complaining about MJs, who made the biggest progress whilst they were fighting each other! ( Somaliland also made progress, but that leeched off of Somalia's failure)
 
We have people like HSM and SSA who treated the cofffers as their personal accounts
And yet we still are complaining about MJs, who made the biggest progress whilst they were fighting each other! ( Somaliland also made progress, but that leeched off of Somalia's failure)
Who tf brought them up my first comment was correction that had nothing to do with them.
He came running with the usual chip on there shoulder.
Let me ask you a question if your living under your father house do you have a right to criticize him or should you stfu until your not relying on him?
 

FBIsomalia

True Puntlander
VIP
So Prozac and other mj get credit for what Chinese are building today but not siyaad Barre.:russ:
Your people brought siyaad Barre into power on the back of shooting one of there own if you want anybody to blame look @ ali saleeban:manny:
Normal soldier what he gain killing his president. Afwenya was behind cause couple hours make the coup in xamar. Xamar we will not give one penny anymore.
 

Calaf

Veni Vidi Vici
2022 CHESS CHAMP
GENERALISSIMO
VIP
Who tf brought them up my first comment was correction that had nothing to do with them.
He came running with the usual chip on there shoulder.
Let me ask you a question if your living under your father house do you have a right to criticize him or should you stfu until your not relying on him?
Personally, I would not criticize my parents view, even if it is wrong
Also, They have the experience SINCE they lived during that period
We , second and third generations who was born after Siad Barre (Death) should really Stfu since we was not there to see what was the conditions like.
To some he is a lion, to others he was a dictator
We got more badder people,(In my opinion), who caused this!
 
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