Invader
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The border with Ethiopia wasn’t disputed with Somaliland. The only dispute was when it was still part of the union in Somalia.
(1978) Mohamed Siad Barre said Somalia was grateful to be colonized by Italy
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Younes Osman
VIP
wallah, im surprised to be honest. You have Somalis defending that shaydan who is the reason why farax and xalimo cant live peacefully and safely today in xamar. in addition, he is the reason why a lot of Somalis are living in the west. This guy literally destroyed a whole country. Yet, people still to this very day defend him...…. wallah that's a bakhty to the next level wallah
ANY somali who defend this shaydan ... deenta so bahtay
ANY somali who defend this shaydan ... deenta so bahtay
If it wasn't for colonialism we would have settlelements in Japan.
tyrannicalmanager
pseudo-intellectual
siad barre evil deed may have caused civil war but who continued the civil war?
who fought in the neighborhoods of xamar over clan supremacy?
who brought ethiopia to kill 20,000 people in mogadishu?
who killed harti
intellectual
in kismayo?
blame idiots like abdullahi yusuf, aideed and omar jess who failed to make an united goverment for the creation of a generation of kacaan revivalist.
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tyrannicalmanager
pseudo-intellectual
jubbaland and nfd used be inhabited by bantus/oromos before somali expansion happened.
Younes Osman
VIP
Its the precise reason why SL succeeded because of the clan rivary between darods and hawiyes along with inter clan fighting in xamar. people in the former NW gave konfurta 6 months to establish peace and government. but, they didn't.
tyrannicalmanager
pseudo-intellectual
my point was the rebels removed siad barre yet could't even create a state nor establish a peace or even keep the country united.
thanks to the rebels were constantly rewinding back to 1969 and repeating the same talking points
about how we ''could've should've would've'' and how we ''didn't, didn't and didn't''.
i sick and tired, why can't we move forward as race? im not even talking about unification im mean talking about moving away from kacaan era bullshit.
You speak Japanese?
On a more serious note, he did both good and bad you can't have onw without the other
But you need to also hold the warlords accountable like AY, Caydiid, SNM etc. They all destroyed Somalia along with the government actions. I also doubt Somalia would be functioning even if he stepped down because one of these warlord tuugs would take over. The civil war was inevitable and building up since the 80's. Too bad no one was thinking ahead
tyrannicalmanager
pseudo-intellectual
reminder that aideed litterally wouldn't accept the fact someone but him could be president of somalia.You speak Japanese?
On a more serious note, he did both good and bad you can't have onw without the other
But you need to also hold the warlords accountable like AY, Caydiid, SNM etc. They all destroyed Somalia along with the government actions. I also doubt Somalia would be functioning even if he stepped down because one of these warlord tuugs would take over. The civil war was inevitable and building up since the 80's. Too bad no one was thinking ahead
Source? Did the number of Bantus decrease significantly?
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Aideed was an ego maniac so I am not surprised. Somalia would be in an even bigger mess if he took over.
Bantu's never lived in Somalia until they were brought there 200 or so years ago. They were some "Madow" clans there but never Bantu's and Oromo's are not native to JL either. Somali's like Garre lived there before Daroods started moving in and the Cushite groups like Azanians before that
tyrannicalmanager
pseudo-intellectual
Idow
The revolution shall come comrades.
What is your qabilThe same man who made Michael Mariano a minister and let Catholics operate a church in Mogadishu. He even prayed to Jesus once. This is the least surprising news all day.
I'm not sure but Oromo's did not live there and Bantu's do not border us either.
https://landofpunt.wordpress.com/2015/07/30/who-were-the-ancient-azanians/
These guys lived in Somalia and the coast of Kenya. Maybe another group like them lived in the NFD before us.
tyrannicalmanager
pseudo-intellectual
Not sure but someone must have lived there.we might have wiped out unknown cushtic race?
sound even more insane
anyways i should probably learn more about somali history rather than reading what happened between 1969 to 1991
The Azanians got wiped out by Bantu's and Nilotes. Until 10th century, they lived in Southern Somalia and the Swahili coast but Bantu's assimilated some and killed the others. I think some Somali's also are descendants of them at least partly.
shum33
Somaliland supremacy
Bullshit!!! Ethiopians never even ruled galbeed!!,the land was given to them by the british to spite italians and stop italy from trying to expand to ethiopia which they were trying to do,british helped ethiopia legitimise its claim internationally
They did. After Menelik II crushed the Italian invasion at the Battle of Adwa in 1896 he conquered Ogaden and added it to his realm. Since then it was part of the Ethio empire except during the Italian Italian occupation from 1935-1941. After WW2 the British were gonna give Ogaden to Somalia to realise greater Somalia but Haile Selassie persuaded the USA to oppose Britain using their diplomatic support. Ogaden has always been a confederation of nomadic tribes though, nobody really ruled them.
