18 murders in 24 hours in chicago

so reading your stats...the numbers are close except that more black people commit crime on white than whites on black. Thats without taking into account that whites are like 5 times more. This stats makes it look much worse than I thought
Are u even from the states? Why do u care
 
Most of the murders happen in ghettos, not upscale suburbs.

Same reason, proximity. Most of the murders in Atlanta happen in Bankhead or housing project, most of the murder in New Orleans happen in the Magnolia projects and similar hoods.

If they simply remove the ghettoization of people, stop stacking black people in the same hoods and have decent social programs the number of people having to kill to get by would reduce. They’ve done it in Nyc and they can do the same in any city. They just don’t care.


The rate remains the same, the number is alarming.

The vast majority done by 15-30 yr old black males.

What is the main difference between white boys between 15-30 and black boys?

Opportunity; They have none. Most with opportunity and something to lose will never put themselves in a position to lose it all.

Those same communities chased out father with aggressive welfare programs that destroyed the nuclear home. The family would receive more money form the government if the father was absent as opposed to staying.

The education system in these hoods are horrible. Has anyone actually gone to class in any of them? These teachers are just as fucked up as the students. I even knew some who where buying drugs from students, fucking them and constantly undermining their intelligence.

If once you leave the womb and everything is stacked against you from your housing, family composition, finances, education, neighbourhood, lack of social mobility, no generational wealth, inadequate health services and lopsided interactions with police.

How the hell is the average black man in the hood meant to thrive in America if hr has all this to deal with.

It’s not as easy as “stop doing it” or their “niggërs”.
A life is a life. It doesnt have less value because its taken in the ghetto. saying most of it happens in the ghetto makes it seems like its not big deal. I am fully aware of the disadvantages they face. But its up to them to lift themselves. No other group of people get lifted by others. You start with what you can control first which is how you treat your own. Their culture is rotten and no one want to address that either
 
Most of the murders happen in ghettos, not upscale suburbs.

Same reason, proximity. Most of the murders in Atlanta happen in Bankhead or housing project, most of the murder in New Orleans happen in the Magnolia projects and similar hoods.

If they simply remove the ghettoization of people, stop stacking black people in the same hoods and have decent social programs the number of people having to kill to get by would reduce. They’ve done it in Nyc and they can do the same in any city. They just don’t care.

You're making up excuses, there are many poor ass whites and latinos who live in the ghettos, do they have massive murder rates like the AAs?. There aren't any upscale surbs in these cities as AAs turn these cities into third-world hellholes. They have been given enough social programs for them to improve. Every other African minority comes to America with absolutely nothing and manages to make something of themselves.

Stop making excuses for their own failure and crimes.
 
A life is a life. It doesnt have less value because its taken in the ghetto. saying most of it happens in the ghetto makes it seems like its not big deal. I am fully aware of the disadvantages they face. But its up to them to lift themselves. No other group of people get lifted by others. You start with what you can control first which is how you treat your own. Their culture is rotten and no one want to address that either
This is strawman argument. I never said or even eluded to that.

I brought up most happen in the ghetto because the ghetto is the stage where the oppression of Black people happens. It’s like saying Footballs are thrown in a football stadium. It’s just is what it is. I never stated that the life taken was worth more or less. Just highlighting that the place in where Black people who are oppressed and abused by the government, the Elite and police are where most crime happens because they literially can’t go anywhere else but their hood or neighbouring opps hoods.

Even transportation is difficult for them. It’s damn near impossible without a car to go from the hood to downtown or the suburbs to commit crimes.

In fact, most robberies are also done because of proximity. White rob white because they live next to one another, asians rob Asians because their next to each other.
 
This is strawman argument. I never said or even eluded to that.

I brought up most happen in the ghetto because the ghetto is the stage where the oppression of Black people happens. It’s like saying Footballs are thrown in a football stadium. It’s just is what it is. I never stated that the life taken was worth more or less. Just highlighting that the place in where Black people who are oppressed and abused by the government, the Elite and police are where most crime happens because they literially can’t go anywhere else but their hood or neighbouring opps hoods.

Even transportation is difficult for them. It’s damn near impossible without a car to go from the hood to downtown or the suburbs to commit crimes.

In fact, most robberies are also done because of proximity. White rob white because they live next to one another, asians rob Asians because their next to each other.

So if I am oppressed and abused its understandable i kill and hurt my own. All I hear is excuses....sorry. But what happened to accountability? government aint never gonna go out of their way to lift you. its your job to lift yourself and your own. Until that basic concept is understood by them....nothing will change
 
So if I am oppressed and abused its understandable i kill and hurt my own. All I hear is excuses....sorry. But what happened to accountability? government aint never gonna go out of their way to lift you. its your job to lift yourself and your own. Until that basic concept is understood by them....nothing will change
Lmao, ok you must be trolling. I’m going to leave it here.

If your government is actively pushing you down, you’re most likely fucked.

I never excused the killings, another strawman argument that you built as you can’t deal with the real points I made.

It seems you don’t want to deal with the fact the government refuses to do it’s job. People are paying taxes, yet those funds are being used to cater to other demographics and to stifle others.

This seems very similar to the “life yourself up they the bootstrap” diatribe those who profess personal responsibility.

Do you know the entomology of that saying? It was to prove that it’s impossible to do it. You can’t physically lift yourself up by straps on your feet.

The same way those who have a police state on their necks, a failed education system in their Neighbourhoods, heath systems that bankrupt those who have nothing to begin with and living in a part of town where their others that are hungry and see you as their next meal.

Even if you want to make it out, the crabs will ensure you won’t as they need you to get out.

The only ways out of the hood is luck and education or being ruthless enough to climb on the corpse of those trying to do the same.
 
So if I am oppressed and abused its understandable i kill and hurt my own. All I hear is excuses....sorry. But what happened to accountability? government aint never gonna go out of their way to lift you. its your job to lift yourself and your own. Until that basic concept is understood by them....nothing will change

Its retarded logic. They are basically justifying why they kill their own kind. Its like my own brother having a better job than me but I'm still poor as hell. What I am going kill and rob him because I feel entitled to what he has? No I'm not, I'm going to use him as a motivation and get my ass out of the financial situation that I'm in.

Anyone can make it in America even these illegal migrants from Mexico who come from nothing hustle their way into American society by working multiple jobs even if its low paid ones. Do you see them committing crimes like the AAs do? Nope.
 
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Anyways I am back let me just refute these points

African American grants and assistance programs.

With the challenging economy, and with the African-American jobless rate still at elevated levels, the federal government has created additional grants as well as other financial assistance programs. Some of this was a carry over from President Obama, and other programs are continuing to be added or evolve. The official White House budget will often get a review done by the various board members of the Black Leadership Forum. Together they try to come up with resources that will give African-American families the assistance and opportunities that they need to succeed over the long term.


The budget document was called “Expanding Opportunities for African-American Families”. It was created by and issued from the White House Office of Public Engagement. There are over 30 different areas and programs that may receive targeted assistance or some form of grants. The overall goal is to boost the economy and quality of life for the millions of disadvantaged people across the nation, including African-Americans.


As noted, the jobless rate for African Americans is almost always higher than the general population. Whether the economy is weak or strong that tends to hold true. The current unemployment rate for African Americans is generally the highest of any major racial group in America. That rate also does not include the number that are working part time but would like a full time position.


The federal government’s latest budget puts a tremendous focus on job creation for all American families, including blacks. The program, much of which was encouraged by President Obama, will take the necessary steps to help jump start job creation, and it will work to strengthen the economic security and long term self-sufficiency of American families.







Information on grants and assistance programs

Below you will find highlights and descriptions of some of the short-term grants as well as other financial assistance programs that are now available. These are all part of the initiatives that were created as part of the budget proposals. The president as well as the federal government is making the tough choices that need to be made to put our Nation back on the path to fiscal responsibility and long term job creation. These programs can also provide short term relief for paying everyday bills. Learn more about how to access the programs, and where to sign up for the grants.


Student Loan Debt: There will be additional resources available to help graduates who are overburdened with student loans as well as other forms of debt that may be the result of their education. The Obama Administration worked to strengthen income-based repayment plans for student loans. This will be accomplished by reducing the monthly payments that need to be made by the student, both before and after they graduate.


It will also be shortening the repayment period so that overburdened borrowers will pay at most only 10 percent of their discretionary income towards repaying their student loans and other education bills. Then They can also have their remaining debt forgiven after 20 years.


Another big improvement in the program is that those African American and other students who enter public service after graduation will have their student debt forgiven after 10 years. Additional funding will also be provided for low-cost Perkins student loans and grants. There are many resources available, and find other ways to get help with student loans.


Unemployment Aid: With the African American unemployment rate even higher than the national average, the fact is that we need more jobs. There will be additional help provided for those who have been most affected by the recession. Much of this will be offered in the form of cash grants and it will help people pay some of the bills they incur on a monthly basis.








For example, there will be an extension of emergency assistance and grants that are available to seniors and families with children, COBRA tax credits, Unemployment Insurance benefits, and additional funds as well as relief to states and localities so they can expand their resources. Find a detailed list of public assistance programs.


Housing Assistance and Protect Families from Mortgage Fraud: There will be an tens of millions of dollars provided to the federal government HUD agency that will be used to support foreclosure prevention and also homeownership through Housing Counseling. So it addresses retention and home buying. Millions of Americans have lost their homes to a foreclosure, and the crisis has also hit black Americans very hard.


But the housing aid doesn’t stop there. Million of dollars more will be available to stop mortgage fraud. The Neighborhood Reinvestment Corporation’s (NRC) grant as well as training programs will receive over $200 million, most of which will be used for paying for foreclosure counseling and prevention. Find additional ways to get mortgage help.


Support for Historically Black Colleges and Universities: The federal government proposes hundreds of millions of dollars for this need. In general the amount allocated continues to increase each and every year over recent levels. The grants will be used to provide additional resources and support for Minority Serving Institutions (MSIs). This includes Historically Black Colleges and Universities. This should allow more minority students to receive a college education. Find free scholarship grant resources.


Additional Help for Child Care Costs: The Child and Dependent Care Tax Credit for middle-class families is available to African Americans as well that meet income criteria. This is per information shared to the Black Leadership Forum. It will increase the middle class tax credit rate from 20 percent to 35 percent of child care expenses. In addition, almost all families making under $115,000 a year would see a larger credit on their tax returns.


The federal government budget also calls for an additional $990 million for the Head Start program as well as the Early Head Start program, which will allow them to continue to serve an additional 65,000 children and families funded in ARRA. Many free day care vouchers are also available, and find how to get help with child care costs.





Project-Based Rental Assistance Program: Almost 10 billion will be provided for the federal government run Project-Based Rental Assistance program. This resource helps all Americans, including minorities and African Americans, find new places to live. Or the funds can also be used to help them stay in their homes or apartments.


This investment will help low and moderate income households to obtain or keep decent, safe and sanitary housing. It will stop an eviction, help them pay energy bills, or help the homeless find a place to live. Find additional programs that offer help with rent.


Increase Pell Grants
: The American Recovery Act, better known as the stimulus plan, and the past years appropriations bill increased the maximum Pell Grant that can be awarded by more than $600 for a total award of $5,350. The new budget from the federal government, which was also put into motion by President Obama, proposes to make that increase permanent and puts the grant program on a path to grow faster than inflation every year. This will have in effect the result of increasing the maximum grant by $1,000 and also expanding eligibility for the program.


Housing Choice Voucher Program: Additional funds to help more than two million extremely low income families pay their rent will be provided. It will provide them with rental assistance, which will allow individuals and families to live in decent housing in neighborhoods of their choice. Big beneficiaries of the Housing Choice grant Program include African Americans and other minorities, as they have been hit hard by the housing crisis as well as deceptive lending practices by banks. More on HUD housing programs.


Fund to Prevent Hunger and Improve Nutrition: The recent budget provides over $8 billion for discretionary nutrition as well as lower income food assistance programs. The federal government funding supports over 10 million low and moderate income participants who are in the WIC program. This is after a service that is critical to the ongoing health and nutrition of pregnant women, new mothers, and their infants.


General Assistance from the Community Development Block Grant Program: The proposed federal budget provides almost $5 billion for the Community Development Fund. This is an assistance program that is administered by your local community action agency. These non-profits are located in most counties, and Click here to find a listing of financial help programs as well as to get more information on community action agencies as well as other local charities.
 

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Its retarded logic. They are basically justifying why they kill their own kind. Its like my own brother having a better job than me but I'm still poor as hell. What I am going kill and rob him because I feel entitled to what he has? No I'm not, I'm going to use him as a motivation and get my ass out of the financial situation that I'm in.

Anyone can make it in America even these illegal migrants from Mexico who come from nothing hustle their way into American society by working multiple jobs even if its low paid ones. Do you see them committing crimes like the AAs do? Nope.
Man said the government is actively working against them. Its nonsense like this that makes it hard to take them serious. The length they are willing to go to make excuses is laughable. The danger with this victim mentality is it teaches zero accountability
 
Lmao, ok you must be trolling. I’m going to leave it here.

If your government is actively pushing you down, you’re most likely fucked.

I never excused the killings, another strawman argument that you built as you can’t deal with the real points I made.

It seems you don’t want to deal with the fact the government refuses to do it’s job. People are paying taxes, yet those funds are being used to cater to other demographics and to stifle others.

This seems very similar to the “life yourself up they the bootstrap” diatribe those who profess personal responsibility.

Do you know the entomology of that saying? It was to prove that it’s impossible to do it. You can’t physically lift yourself up by straps on your feet.

The same way those who have a police state on their necks, a failed education system in their Neighbourhoods, heath systems that bankrupt those who have nothing to begin with and living in a part of town where their others that are hungry and see you as their next meal.

Even if you want to make it out, the crabs will ensure you won’t as they need you to get out.

The only ways out of the hood is luck and education or being ruthless enough to climb on the corpse of those trying to do the same.
Biggest obstacle you face in the hood is one of your own killing you. Stop the excuses
 

Hassan Garguute Buldanana

AUG 25, 2023
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Both sides have valid points



Look at this shit. Raised by only the mom in rough hoods with no father figures will only lead them to early grave or the penitentiary. Its both designed and self inflicted.
 

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