“The chosen ones” seem to have a new agenda on Wikipedia

Under the etymology page, they have added detail on the origin of the name of Mogadishu. The last sentence on it is very concerning…
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cunug3aad

3rdchild · Balaayo lugo daadheer
This edit is the one that introduced this whole etymology section. Some user called azanian pearl who is involved in pages relating to somalia, also somali bantu and niche group like gabra. Therefore I think it may be Good faith edit rather than kas iyo maag
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Either way is concerning how hebrew is used as the default avenue for semitic influence in the etymology of muuqdisho.. you would think they use arabic :holeup:
 
This edit is the one that introduced this whole etymology section. Some user called azanian pearl who is involved in pages relating to somalia, also somali bantu and niche group like gabra. Therefore I think it may be Good faith edit rather than kas iyo maag
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Either way is concerning how hebrew is used as the default avenue for semitic influence in the etymology of muuqdisho.. you would think they use arabic :holeup:
He also has some edits on antisemitism in Somalia relating to Al Khushaash
 

cunug3aad

3rdchild · Balaayo lugo daadheer
Can someone query on the talk page. Along the lines of
"Why is there mentioned judaic origins to the proposed semitic etymology of muuqdisho, the hebrew miqdaash is is cognate with the arabic maqdis and this would make much more sense given the deeply islamic history of somalia"

Although now i realise semitic shiin was imported into arabic as siin which makes the claim of maqdis more tenuous :bell: Man i still think its muuq+disho the somali etymology is simple and easy like every other magaalo. Just the paper writers hate us so wikipedia will hate us by proxy
 
Can someone query on the talk page. Along the lines of
"Why is there mentioned judaic origins to the proposed semitic etymology of muuqdisho, the hebrew miqdaash is is cognate with the arabic maqdis and this would make much more sense given the deeply islamic history of somalia"

Although now i realise semitic shiin was imported into arabic as siin which makes the claim of maqdis more tenuous :bell: Man i still think its muuq+disho the somali etymology is simple and easy like every other magaalo. Just the paper writers hate us so wikipedia will hate us by proxy
I don't know why they're making it seem like it's a common theory. It's just an author who was translating the fictional garbage kitab al zanj. He saw the text say two rabbis founded the city and tried to concoct a connection in the city name. No source, just him guessing.
 
Aw-Jaamac Cumar Ciise (Alla ha unaxariistee) wuxuu yiri:

Si kastaba arrintu ha ahaatee ama magaca ha loo fasiree sheekooyinka la iska dhaxlaa sidey sheegaayaan iyo waraaqo far guri ah oo odayaal arkay ay wariyeen waxaa caddaan ah oo aan muran ku jirin in magaca Muqdisho asalkiisu ahaa Maqdas kaasoo baxay markay Muqdisho noqotay qarnigii 7aad ilaa qarnigii 8aad xarun ganacsi oo wax lagu kala iibsado, markii ribix badan laga helayna loogu magac daray Beytul Maqdas oo ah magaalo barakeysan ee ku taal dalka Falastiin. Aan soo qaadanno magacyo arrintaas taageeraaya:

Magaalada Muqdisho waxaa ku xeeran tuulooyin dhowr ah oo loogu magac daray magaalooyin caan baxay xilligii fiditaankii diinta lslaamka, waxaana ka mid ahaa:

  • Tuulada la yiraahdo Baqdaad oo ka tirsan degmada Afgooye looguna magac daray xarunta taliskii lslaamka Baqdaad oo haatanna ah magaalo madaxda dawladda Ciraaq.
  • Tuulada Basra oo ka tirsan degmada Balcad oo loogu magac daray magaalada Basra oo ah magaala madaxda labaad ee dalka Ciraaq.
  • Tuulada Sabiid oo ka tirsan degmada Afgooye oo loogu magac daray xaruntii cilmiga ee Yaman una dhaxaysa Xudeyda) iyo Ticis.
  • Tuulada Misra oo ka tirsan degmada Afgooye oo loogu magac daray magaala madaxda Masar Qaahira oo waagii hore lagu magacaabi jirey Misra.
Hadaba sida taariikhdu qoreyso qarnigii 7aad dabayaaqadiisii iyo qarnigii 8aad dhalashadii Nabi Ciise ka dib waxaa xeebaha Banaadir aad u soo degey ganacsato Carbeed oo ka soo hayaamay gobolada Shaam iyo Beytul Maqdis dhacdo iyo Yaman, kuwaasoo loo maleynaayo in ay magaca Muqdisho bixiyeen, sidaa awgeed wax lala yaabo ma aha haddii la yiraahdo magaca Muqdisho asalkiisu wuxuu ahaa Maqdas oo loola jeedey magaalada barakaysan ee Beytul Maqdas.

Sidaas awgeed iyadoo labadaas qodob ee aan soo sheegnay la tixraacaayo waxaa lagu dhiiran karaa in magaca Muqdisho uu yahay mid ku abtirsada magaca Maqdis kana soo jeeday Beytul Maqdis.


 

cunug3aad

3rdchild · Balaayo lugo daadheer
Aw-Jaamac Cumar Ciise (Alla ha unaxariistee) wuxuu yiri:

Si kastaba arrintu ha ahaatee ama magaca ha loo fasiree sheekooyinka la iska dhaxlaa sidey sheegaayaan iyo waraaqo far guri ah oo odayaal arkay ay wariyeen waxaa caddaan ah oo aan muran ku jirin in magaca Muqdisho asalkiisu ahaa Maqdas kaasoo baxay markay Muqdisho noqotay qarnigii 7aad ilaa qarnigii 8aad xarun ganacsi oo wax lagu kala iibsado, markii ribix badan laga helayna loogu magac daray Beytul Maqdas oo ah magaalo barakeysan ee ku taal dalka Falastiin. Aan soo qaadanno magacyo arrintaas taageeraaya:

Magaalada Muqdisho waxaa ku xeeran tuulooyin dhowr ah oo loogu magac daray magaalooyin caan baxay xilligii fiditaankii diinta lslaamka, waxaana ka mid ahaa:

  • Tuulada la yiraahdo Baqdaad oo ka tirsan degmada Afgooye looguna magac daray xarunta taliskii lslaamka Baqdaad oo haatanna ah magaalo madaxda dawladda Ciraaq.
  • Tuulada Basra oo ka tirsan degmada Balcad oo loogu magac daray magaalada Basra oo ah magaala madaxda labaad ee dalka Ciraaq.
  • Tuulada Sabiid oo ka tirsan degmada Afgooye oo loogu magac daray xaruntii cilmiga ee Yaman una dhaxaysa Xudeyda) iyo Ticis.
  • Tuulada Misra oo ka tirsan degmada Afgooye oo loogu magac daray magaala madaxda Masar Qaahira oo waagii hore lagu magacaabi jirey Misra.
Hadaba sida taariikhdu qoreyso qarnigii 7aad dabayaaqadiisii iyo qarnigii 8aad dhalashadii Nabi Ciise ka dib waxaa xeebaha Banaadir aad u soo degey ganacsato Carbeed oo ka soo hayaamay gobolada Shaam iyo Beytul Maqdis dhacdo iyo Yaman, kuwaasoo loo maleynaayo in ay magaca Muqdisho bixiyeen, sidaa awgeed wax lala yaabo ma aha haddii la yiraahdo magaca Muqdisho asalkiisu wuxuu ahaa Maqdas oo loola jeedey magaalada barakaysan ee Beytul Maqdas.

Sidaas awgeed iyadoo labadaas qodob ee aan soo sheegnay la tixraacaayo waxaa lagu dhiiran karaa in magaca Muqdisho uu yahay mid ku abtirsada magaca Maqdis kana soo jeeday Beytul Maqdis.


Allaaha u naxaristo waxaan haysaa 3 oo qodob aan khilaafsan ahay

Lumber 1 tuulos being named after notable islamic cities does not mean that the same happened to muqdisho. By this logic it should be called makka or madiina cadey or Qudsiga

Lumber 2 his reasoning of "banaadir went through a lot of different languages so muqdisho must too" is flawed because banaadir is still a viable persian word even in its loanword state. Whereas muqdisho cannot be linked to any of these origins without stretching the pronunciation to something it isnt

Lumber 3 he uses kitaabu sinji with his discussion about the etymology of xamar which has been seen to be a false book

Qof isoo sharxi karaa haddi aan qaldan ahay ama saxsan ahay
 
Aw-Jaamac Cumar Ciise (Alla ha unaxariistee) wuxuu yiri:

Si kastaba arrintu ha ahaatee ama magaca ha loo fasiree sheekooyinka la iska dhaxlaa sidey sheegaayaan iyo waraaqo far guri ah oo odayaal arkay ay wariyeen waxaa caddaan ah oo aan muran ku jirin in magaca Muqdisho asalkiisu ahaa Maqdas kaasoo baxay markay Muqdisho noqotay qarnigii 7aad ilaa qarnigii 8aad xarun ganacsi oo wax lagu kala iibsado, markii ribix badan laga helayna loogu magac daray Beytul Maqdas oo ah magaalo barakeysan ee ku taal dalka Falastiin. Aan soo qaadanno magacyo arrintaas taageeraaya:

Magaalada Muqdisho waxaa ku xeeran tuulooyin dhowr ah oo loogu magac daray magaalooyin caan baxay xilligii fiditaankii diinta lslaamka, waxaana ka mid ahaa:

  • Tuulada la yiraahdo Baqdaad oo ka tirsan degmada Afgooye looguna magac daray xarunta taliskii lslaamka Baqdaad oo haatanna ah magaalo madaxda dawladda Ciraaq.
  • Tuulada Basra oo ka tirsan degmada Balcad oo loogu magac daray magaalada Basra oo ah magaala madaxda labaad ee dalka Ciraaq.
  • Tuulada Sabiid oo ka tirsan degmada Afgooye oo loogu magac daray xaruntii cilmiga ee Yaman una dhaxaysa Xudeyda) iyo Ticis.
  • Tuulada Misra oo ka tirsan degmada Afgooye oo loogu magac daray magaala madaxda Masar Qaahira oo waagii hore lagu magacaabi jirey Misra.
Hadaba sida taariikhdu qoreyso qarnigii 7aad dabayaaqadiisii iyo qarnigii 8aad dhalashadii Nabi Ciise ka dib waxaa xeebaha Banaadir aad u soo degey ganacsato Carbeed oo ka soo hayaamay gobolada Shaam iyo Beytul Maqdis dhacdo iyo Yaman, kuwaasoo loo maleynaayo in ay magaca Muqdisho bixiyeen, sidaa awgeed wax lala yaabo ma aha haddii la yiraahdo magaca Muqdisho asalkiisu wuxuu ahaa Maqdas oo loola jeedey magaalada barakaysan ee Beytul Maqdas.

Sidaas awgeed iyadoo labadaas qodob ee aan soo sheegnay la tixraacaayo waxaa lagu dhiiran karaa in magaca Muqdisho uu yahay mid ku abtirsada magaca Maqdis kana soo jeeday Beytul Maqdis.


Aw jaamac (AUN) hadalkisu badana oral stories bu ku dhisanyahay o buugtisa badankiis wa noocas
 

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