“Somalia belongs to Somalis.”

[Garsoore]

This is interesting i never knew najd was a geographical term. Apparently it refers to highlands. When i was looking into sharxi of the hadiith they mention other hadith where Rasuulullaah Scw points to the east and says from there will come shaydaans horn, and from there they conclude this refers to the highlands of iraq

There is a hadiith very similar to the one i showed but narrated by AlTabaraanii let me show you

وعن ابن عباس رضي الله عنهما قال دعا النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم : اللهم بارك لنا في صاعنا ومدنا ، وبارك لنا في شامنا ويمننا . فقال رجل من القوم يا نبي الله وفي عراقنا . قال : إن بها قرن الشيطان ، وتهيج الفتن ، وإن الجفاء بالمشرق . قال الهيثيمي في المجمع : رواه الطبراني في الكبير ورجاله ثقات .​

On the authority of Ibn Abbas (may Allah be pleased with him), he said, "The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) supplicated, 'O Allah, bless us in our Sa' and Mud, and bless us in our Levant and Yemen.'" A man from among the people said, "O Prophet of Allah, and in our Iraq?" He said, "It is the horn of Satan, and it stirs up sedition, and harshness is in the East." Al-Haythami said in Al-Majma': It was narrated by Al-Tabarani in Al-Kabir and its chain of narrators is trustworthy.
This hadiith does confirm najd that the man was referring to meant iraq most likely. Although i dont know why he suddenly started dissing Yemen and Shaam

They hate each other a lot. In almost any social media you'll see them insulting and attacking each other over national/religious lines. They just don't air it in English.

 

[novanova]

Nah, I left holes on purpose and some of y’all are filling them . All I said was that the earth belongs to Allah, and how demographics shift—and yet you have people contesting it.

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salafis are an existential threat imo

 

[Barkhadle1520]

Is a shallow argument and ignores the truth of our religion.


Land does not permanently belong to any ethnicity. Nations rise and fall by Allah’s decree. Even the Prophet ﷺ responded to Musaylimah, who arrogantly claimed half the earth:


History shows this clearly: Anatolia was Greek-speaking and Christian under Byzantium but became Turkish and Muslim over centuries. Ethnic entitlement over land is not an argument. I posted this here but the topic can be shifted to another section.

Somalia belongs to the UN

 

[Espaa_]

Anything could happen its the qadr of Allah maybe we will still occupy this land in 1000 years time or maybe we will be even more admixed or maybe we will be wiped out. Or maybe before that yawmul qiyama will come. Maybe we will take more land and create somaliwayn. Maybe we will fracture and become different countries. Or maybe our people could become secular. Or even go back to sufism. Maybe our birth rates may dwindle. Maybe we could become the dominant force in Africa. Maybe even on the world stage who knows

Anything could happen. In these cases, its best to leave it as qadr Allah seeing as the land belongs to Allah and Him alone. No one else has authority but him over us and over humanity. Whatever he has written in the preserved tablet 50,000 years before the creation of our souls will come to light in due time. Until then we should strive to become model muslims and to generate peace with each other and to help our people suffering back home.

 

[Mutombo]

Nah, I left holes on purpose and some of y’all are filling them . All I said was that the earth belongs to Allah, and how demographics shift—and yet you have people contesting it.

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This demographic shift you’re referring to would require the replacement of ethnic Somalis. Who would seriously entertain the idea that a native population should have no ownership over its own ethnic territory? Daadka somaliyeed individuals like this guy is exactly why we should steer clear of salafis and we shouldn’t allow our masjids to be infiltrated by them.

@Admin please move this to general section

 

[Saleh]

Somalia has always been diverse and if it wants to make any sort of progress it should embrace its diverse background and work to integrate minorities. Only then will Somalia move forward

 

[Espaa_]

Somalia has always been diverse and if it wants to make any sort of progress it should embrace its diverse background and work to integrate minorities. Only then will Somalia move forward

Before we even think of that we need to create peace amongst the majority somali people first. But they have hatred against each other

 

[Saleh]

Before we even think of that we need to create peace amongst the majority somali people first. But they have hatred against each other

Of course. Tribal diversity is also of utmost importance. “Outcast” tribes need political integration and representation and discrimination towards them even in a marital sense should be outlawed. Same goes for ethnic minorities

 

[Espaa_]

Of course. Tribal diversity is also of utmost importance. “Outcast” tribes need political integration and representation and discrimination towards them even in a marital sense should be outlawed. Same goes for ethnic minorities

Outcast ethnic somali clans yes such as madhibaan. As i said ethnic somalis need to kiss and makeup first and development and everything must start before bringing diversity initiatives for these ethnic minorities so we can protect them. How can we protect them now when we cant even protect ourselves?

 

[Saleh]

Outcast ethnic somali clans yes such as madhibaan. As i said ethnic somalis need to kiss and makeup first and development and everything must start before bringing diversity initiatives for these ethnic minorities so we can protect them. How can we protect them now when we cant even protect ourselves?

there should be reconciliation between everyone. Why should ethnic somalis get priority, frankly the ethnicity/tribe of victims does not matter

 

[Espaa_]

there should be reconciliation between everyone. Why should ethnic somalis get priority, frankly the ethnicity/tribe of victims does not matter

Because we own the land and we are natives here. Natives always get priority. In time reconciliation will happen ill give it till 2100 if everything keeps improving like this slowly

 

[cunug3aad]

Somalia has always been diverse and if it wants to make any sort of progress it should embrace its diverse background and work to integrate minorities. Only then will Somalia move forward

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@Admin move to general i dont like qeybta islaam in la wasaqeyno politikaal

 

[Espaa_]

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@Admin move to general i dont like qeybta islaam in la wasaqeyno politikaal

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