The problem with this is that it creates more and more division. In the end you will see villages self determining themselves
Do clans have the right to self determination
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so you sayin they cant determine their own future ., or maybe we should only allow big clans to determine their future
Sure they do, but not in the sense you might think. All peoples have a right to self-determination. If a clan meets the criteria required to be recognized as a “people,” then yes, it could qualify. However, individual Somali clans generally do not meet those criteria.
Even if they did, that would not automatically grant them the right to external self-determination, meaning the right to form an independent state, unite with another, or freely determine their international status. Rather, they would be entitled to internal self-determination, which is the right of a people within an existing state to pursue their own development, maintain a degree of autonomy, and enjoy political representation within that state.
Even if they did, that would not automatically grant them the right to external self-determination, meaning the right to form an independent state, unite with another, or freely determine their international status. Rather, they would be entitled to internal self-determination, which is the right of a people within an existing state to pursue their own development, maintain a degree of autonomy, and enjoy political representation within that state.
Welll i think ethnic groups dont even have the right to self determination in some cases remember the kurds the somalis in the ogaden region., its a right but its not always granted by the countries these ethnic groupslive in , but its a grey area because when they say peoples , they dont say what they mean
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nah im saying like where do we cross the line. because the tribe divides into sub sub sub sub clans that wanna self determine too
personally i think we are all somali forget all of the never ending tribalism
None of this true, genuinely astonished to see people completely revise entire sections of somali history.
That’s a fallacy.
The case of Ethiopia vs Eritrea has some slight differences. First Eritrea was basically annexed by Ethiopia after WW2 under the agreement with the UN that they would treat them as an autonomous province, the agreement was not fulfilled though and Eritrea was fully integrated within the Ethiopia kingdom and later the comunista regime
Garaad Awal
Former African
Somalians arguing about Somaliland while their country is fully occupied by foreigners & terrorists. Somaliland will never be Somalia and that blue flag will never fly in Hargeisa. Thank you for your attention to this matter
the topic isnt about Somaliland dont flatter ur self its a general question Somaliland isnt the only clan that is after sefl determination puntland galmudug jubbaland the ogaden region are all after self determination and so is khaatuumo
Garaad Awal
Former African
No such thing of Xaartuumo. Sool will not be divided, all of it including the Eastern parts will be SL.
I. Don’t think you Isaaq will ever challenge dhulbahante over sool since the goojacadde defeat there has never been such a bad defeat in the history of Somali battles ciiro isn’t a man who wishes to be humiliated by dhulbahante again so know your place in Somalia
Garaad Awal
Former African
Sool won’t be divided. Eastern parts of Sool will be retaken and the terrorists & criminals will be disarmed
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