Justice for the Daarul Rayxaan Girls

Jaydaan said:

I'm sorry for what this young lady went through. No one supports that. But this is rare case. Also parents have the right to keep their children where they want. I'm not gonna let the government raise our children. We have a culture and way of life and we have the right to raise our kids within our culture

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@Jaydaan

Not a rare case, these centres popped up everywhere in Somalia/Somaliland and even in Isley/Nairobi. The latter one was exposed their abuses by Jamal Osman (maybe channel 4) and closed, A Puntland one was closed after an American Somali guy was murdered at the centre/jail.

A murder mystery and a diplomatic stalemate, and at the center of it all is a Minnesota teenager who was killed at a boarding school in Somalia. And his family believes he may have been targeted for being American.


Read the comments of those who experienced that school.

AussieHustler said:

A murder mystery and a diplomatic stalemate, and at the center of it all is a Minnesota teenager who was killed at a boarding school in Somalia. And his family believes he may have been targeted for being American.


Read the comments of those who experienced that school.

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I will Watch it later. I don't support abuse or locking up kids. We sent my little sister to my aunt to stay there 2 years and it helped her a lot. Sometimes change of scenery can help a kid. But these people forget if you sending a kid away, that means they are troubled and locking up and violence is not a solution

Jaydaan said:

I'm sorry for what this young lady went through. No one supports that. But this is rare case. Also parents have the right to keep their children where they want. I'm not gonna let the government raise our children. We have a culture and way of life and we have the right to raise our kids within our culture

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@Jaydaan

How hard is it to understand that in the Western diaspora, yes, parents do have responsibilities of their children and also, children do have rights. These are the laws of the land. If you want total control of your children move to Somalia permanently and renounce their citizenship abroad.

AussieHustler said:

A murder mystery and a diplomatic stalemate, and at the center of it all is a Minnesota teenager who was killed at a boarding school in Somalia. And his family believes he may have been targeted for being American.


Read the comments of those who experienced that school.

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what in the world these places are the type of place where you could become mental and violent. Seems counterintuitive and the authority’s who watch these things happen are just as responsible. Can’t believe they go to these centers, watch what just happened, and are like it’s all checks out and don’t even press charges. I am so disturbed at what they did to the kid the only thing he did was not go to school and they assumed he did drugs and even after they did a drug test and they found out he was clean. They didn’t let him go instead they kept him inside gave him a liquid that’s dangerous which makes you vomit and could possibly make you die. They also beat him up if he didn’t drink it and they did that just to make money out of the kid and take money from his parents. His parents are probably not aware that this is happening to him and they are losing money while their kids are being abused. This is a scam and if these so call sheikhs cared out about Islam they would never allow this to happen and close it down.

Barwaaqoforsomalia said:

what in the world these places are the type of place where you could become mental and violent. Seems counterintuitive and the authority’s who watch these things happen are just as responsible. Can’t believe they go to these centers, watch what just happened, and are like it’s all checks out and don’t even press charges. I am so disturbed at what they did to the kid the only thing he did was not go to school and they assumed he did drugs and even after they did a drug test and they found out he was clean. They didn’t let him go instead they kept him inside gave him a liquid that’s dangerous which makes you vomit and could possibly make you die. They also beat him up if he didn’t drink it and they did that just to make money out of the kid and take money from his parents. His parents are probably not aware that this is happening to him and they are losing money while their kids are being abused. This is a scam and if these so call sheikhs cared out about Islam they would never allow this to happen and close it down.

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Also, people need to know you don’t need to go these people to get rid of evil eye. I remember during the Umm Abdullah and Hasanat issue there was sheikh that said you can do it yourself all you have to do is believe Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala is going to cure you and read the last three Surah three times. And another thing that disturbed me is that the people believe that these sheikhs will cure them and if they go with that in their mind they might accidentally commit a major sin.


This all is a scam and unlawful if you can do ruqya in the comfort of your home you don’t need to pay these sheikhs to do it for you unless you think you can’t read or don’t know the last three surah’s.

AussieHustler said:

@Jaydaan

How hard is it to understand that in the Western diaspora, yes, parents do have responsibilities of their children and also, children do have rights. These are the laws of the land. If you want total control of your children move to Somalia permanently and renounce their citizenship abroad.

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Not gonna do that. I know the law and know what I can and can't get away with. Saying to people if you disagree with me you can leave isn't gonna get you anywhere. These parents were misguided. But their intentions were good.

Always depend on where!

Parents who allow children to be subjected to violence abroad should be investigated.

The findings about Norwegian children exposed to violence in Quranic schools in Somalia have caused reactions. Researcher, Anja Bredal, believes the parents should be investigated.




She told NRK news that there is a lack of case law for such incidents in Norway, but it is time for them to be tried in court.

Bredal, who works at the Norwegian Institute for Growth, Welfare and Ageing (NOVA), has researched what is being done to children who are sent abroad against their will.

She considers the stories of a Quranic school in Somalia as a ‘particularly illustrative example’ of practices she believes should be investigated by police.

If the parents have knowingly exposed their children to this, it is punishable. If they only later learned about what the children were exposed to, they should have prevented it’, she said.

On Wednesday, two Norwegian-Somali youths told about life inside a Quran school in Somalia. The youths were beaten, locked up, and abused. The stories they told caused immigration minister, Sylvi Listhaug of Fremskrittsparti (Frp), to call several ministers together for an emergency meeting.

Attorney General, Saqib Rizwan, has worked on several issues concerning child welfare and immigration cases. He believes it isn’t unlawful to send children to a school abroad.

‘But if parents deliberately send the children to a place where they are aware that the children will be exposed to violence, it should be investigated,’ he said.

He believes such cases could be investigated under the law involving bodily injury, or provisions under helpless conditions, if parents fail to retrieve children after they become aware of the situation

.https://norwaytoday.info/news/parents-allow-children-subjected-violence-abroad-investigated/

UK Somali teenagers taken 'on holiday' and forced into marriage

Figures show 100% year-on-year rise in forced marriages involving Somali children.

British Somali teenagers are being taken back to their parents’ homeland under the pretence of a holiday and then kept in detention centres before being forced into marriages.

Under the practice of dhaqan celis, loosely translated as “the rehabilitation community”, Somali children and teenagers are routinely taken to the country, where they are often sent to “rehabilitation” centres.

The centres promote themselves as “re-education” schools to align young people with Somali cultural values and their Somali roots. The Home Office, however, says they tend not to deliver an academic curriculum and are in fact detention centres where young people are routinely subjected to physical, sexual and mental abuse. In some cases, those held against their will are told the only way out is to get married.

David Myers, joint head of the Home Office’s forced marriage unit (FMU) in the UK, said: “What we are seeing in these communities is that young people who have antisocial behaviour issues, are getting involved in gangs and drugs, and are being sent back to Somalia by their parents for re-education and rehabilitation.

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https://www.theguardian.com/society...en-on-holiday-only-to-be-forced-into-marriage

Tukraq said:

Is it in Kenya? If it’s in somalia you have no hope in changing it tbh

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What does the headline mean and why is change needed for

If parents are sending you back you must be thugging or ho'ing. They have that right, but they should not send them to just any school back home. Lotta kids getting murdered in the west, they may be better off in Africa.

Secondly i would never sign a petition giving recognition to Somaliand as a separate state.

A lot of those parents can't even parent their own children. Taking them to a place to be tortured and abused is just going to make them 10 times worse.

If you want to 'daqan celis' your kids, relocate with them. Leaving them with strangers in a country foreign to them is qashin.

Some of these parents don't even instill morals and islamic etiquette in their children, because dad is too busy chewing qat and mum is on the phone chatting shit about the latest diraac. Yet, when push comes to shove, they act suprised when their kids are the local delinquents.

Jaydaan said:

I'm sorry for what this young lady went through. No one supports that. But this is rare case. Also parents have the right to keep their children where they want. I'm not gonna let the government raise our children. We have a culture and way of life and we have the right to raise our kids within our culture

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I'm all for parents taking their kids back, but at least go with them, instead of sending them back to be under the care of strangers who could abuse them and make them 10 times worse.

How is it discipline? What are kids learning if they are just beaten and not taught their culture and aklaaq.

I have cousins that were taken back, now they are just waste men who chew Qat with the local men. No job, no work ethic ect. We need to stop glorifying back home, because if you just throw them there and leave them, with no sense of direction, they pick up bad habits from there as well.