Panorama goes undercover with Pick Up Artists

Mckenzie

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@Gibiin-Udug @Knowles @Basra @VixR have you ever been cold approached? :cosbyhmm:

I just don't know why they call it the secrets of seduction or request huge sums of Money for common sense, they're stealing a living.

I don' think what they were doing is greatly harmful, minus the recording and YouTube uploading of women without their consent.

A lot of women are approachable and make that obvious, so it's about knowing who to speak to, what to say and when to do so.

Funny they only got Adnan sentenced for harassment.
 
My friend attended one of these PUA classes one time, and they charge like 400 pounds a session. These PUA coaches prey on guys with extreme Autism, social anxiety and other Incels etc, because some of these poor suckers believe that they get laid if they just follow a book or class, in reality some of these guys just get ripped off and you can't learn how ''to game'' women if you're ugly or short.
 

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Would you even be able to tell if they’re regular guys or PUAs in training, unless their bottom lip quivers or something? It’s not conclusive even you see a supposed coach in the background, bc even regular guys push and goad each other to approach a girl.

I wouldn’t know if any guy was “cold approaching” or not, but I have a legendary block list bc my thing until recently was to give my # out and block them, bc I cared too much about being nice.
 
Would you even be able to tell if they’re regular guys or PUAs in training, unless their bottom lip quivers or something? It’s not conclusive even you see a supposed coach in the background, bc even regular guys push and goad each other to approach a girl.

I wouldn’t know if any guy was “cold approaching” or not, but I have a legendary block list bc my thing until recently was to give my # out and block them, bc I cared too much about being nice.
No, you can tell. PUAs are Autistic, regular guys don't cold approach.
 

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No, you can tell. PUAs are Autistic, regular guys don't cold approach.
If you live in a decently sized city, you’ll definitely get guys who approach you out of the blue. Blocking actually works best with random guys who asked your # here and there, bc you probably won’t see them again.

If it’s someone on campus, or you otherwise have a good chance of running into them again, you hope they took the hint, which most do, or it becomes awkward.
 
My friend attended one of these PUA classes one time, and they charge like 400 pounds a session. These PUA coaches prey on guys with extreme Autism, social anxiety and other Incels etc, because some of these poor suckers believe that they get laid if they just follow a book or class, in reality some of these guys just get ripped off and you can't learn how ''to game'' women if you're ugly or short.

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Mckenzie

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Would you even be able to tell if they’re regular guys or PUAs in training, unless their bottom lip quivers or something? It’s not conclusive even you see a supposed coach in the background, bc even regular guys push and goad each other to approach a girl.

I wouldn’t know if any guy was “cold approaching” or not, but I have a legendary block list bc my thing until recently was to give my # out and block them, bc I cared too much about being nice.

I feel sorry for women who get approached constantly, i only partly know the feeling when i get stopped by fundraisers and it's fucking annoying. I crossed the road once and she crossed it too, i crossed back and she did the same :bell: it's best to not entertain the conversation at all, both parties can move on with closure.

My friend attended one of these PUA classes one time, and they charge like 400 pounds a session. These PUA coaches prey on guys with extreme Autism, social anxiety and other Incels etc, because some of these poor suckers believe that they get laid if they just follow a book or class, in reality some of these guys just get ripped off and you can't learn how ''to game'' women if you're ugly or short.

You'd be suprised there are a countless number of normal guys who overthink or lack the drive.

The coaches should not offer the classes to anyone who is vulnerable, it's embarrassing them to say the least.
 

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@Gibiin-Udug @Knowles @Basra @VixR have you ever been cold approached? :cosbyhmm:

I just don't know why they call it the secrets of seduction or request huge sums of Money for common sense, they're stealing a living.

I don' think what they were doing is greatly harmful, minus the recording and YouTube uploading of women without their consent.

A lot of women are approachable and make that obvious, so it's about knowing who to speak to, what to say and when to do so.

Funny they only got Adnan sentenced for harassment.



Why is it people who r doing this have a muslim name\?
 

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I feel sorry for women who get approached constantly, i only partly know the feeling when i get stopped by fundraisers and it's fucking annoying. I crossed the road once and she crossed it too, i crossed back and she did the same :bell: it's best to not entertain the conversation at all, both parties can move on with closure.
No question. Still, it’s the nature of being a girl. I don’t see the difference between PUAs and regular guys looking for sex tbh. That’s likely why they couldn’t really hit him up for much. It’s not like you can outlaw the act of getting approached.

The recording and uploading part, definitely. But even regular guys are risky for that, either to boast of footage they’ve acquired fucking you, or as method of revenge/humiliation, though these PUAs are especially thirsty for that kind of “proof” of their success given their difficulties. They’re not that different from men who have sex, it’s just their desperation amplifies their tendencies.
 

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Regular people cold approach all the time, don’t know why u and @Mckenzie @VixR are making it out to be such a problem.
That’s what I said. On my current iPhone, which is a year old, I have at least 30 blocked #s from “regular” guys who asked for a #, and they’re all from 6 months in when I was still a pussy about it. Old phone’s block list is a nightmare in comparison. The “I’m a relationship” lie doesn’t faze many anymore, and its too involved and time consuming to say no and explain why, bc they’ll usually still press, so I’d just give my # and block.

I’ve finally caught on that the way to do it is to not explain at all. Say no, and if they press, just stare/look at them without saying a word. Strange psychology, silence works over explanation. They’ll leave you alone, maybe thinking you’re a crazy or whatever, who knows.

There’s no real way to differentiate between regs and PUAs. As far as I’m concerned all men are mere PUAs, until proven otherwise.
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That’s what I said. On my current iPhone, which is a year old, I have at least 30 blocked #s from “regular” guys who asked for a #, and they’re all from 6 months in when I was still a pussy about it. “I’m a relationship” doesn’t faze many anymore, and its too involved and time consuming to say no and explain why, bc they’ll usually still press, so I’d just give my # and block.

I’ve finally caught on that the way to do it is to not explain at all. Say no, and if they press, just stare/look at them without saying a word. Strange psychology, silence works over explanation. They’ll leave you alone, maybe thinking you’re a crazy or whatever, who knows.

There’s no real way to differentiate between regs and PUAs. As far as I’m concerned all men are mere PUAs, until proven otherwise.
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You must dislike men who cold approach then. Personally I wouldn’t do it because it’s weird talking to strangers you don’t know.
 

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You must dislike men who cold approach then. Personally I wouldn’t do it because it’s weird talking to strangers you don’t know.
I wasn’t interested in dating. They weren’t all cold approaches, but they’re definitely common enough.

I would think a cold approach would definitely be less receptive than someone you somewhat know, bc there’s some element of danger for women with complete strangers, but plenty of people still take the risk. Then again, even the guy I’m dating now was a no at first when he asked for my #, and it wasn’t a cold approach. I said no, and I didn’t even have to stare him down. It was an acquaintance type thing until he asked again practically a year later.
 
Would you even be able to tell if they’re regular guys or PUAs in training, unless their bottom lip quivers or something? It’s not conclusive even you see a supposed coach in the background, bc even regular guys push and goad each other to approach a girl.

I wouldn’t know if any guy was “cold approaching” or not, but I have a legendary block list bc my thing until recently was to give my # out and block them, bc I cared too much about being nice.
It's not nice to give someone your number and then block them.. Just say no in the beginning.
 

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It's not nice to give someone your number and then block them.. Just say no in the beginning.
You guys don’t listen to no. A shocking percent of you can’t, or don’t want to read a situation as a no. You can’t tell the difference between when you should keep trying, or not.
 

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