Puntites are Federalists not qabiilists

Federalism is Tribalism with extra steps

PuntiteQueen said:

It is tribalism to wish for every village, town and city to be developed? To have the same services? To refuse for all the nations funding to be sunk into 2 cities like we did before.

Somalis cannot handle centralism, as we can see from despot Farmaajo who has blocked flights for the opposition.

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I’m not saying Federalism is bad it’s the best we have now but you can’t deny the strong tribalistic ties

Guul Federalism


But I’m very qabilist. What can I say how can I ever like ape like Hu!us and aids ridden idoors

PuntiteQueen said:

There are new generations who are not involved in atrocities so why not move forward.

Any supporter of federalism is our ally.

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I agree but unfortunately the only people to seriously support federalism with us is OGs in Kismayo. Hu!us had the last 10 years to support federalism but they did everything in their power to be a thorn in our side. Now that a bo0n is abusing them in GM doesn’t mean they are serious about it. But alx our people aren’t dumb enough to fall for that but instead we will use these donkey like people to rid us of farmaajo

PuntiteQueen said:

First of all, it was Xaaf who helped usher in peace into Galkacyo. Even if we seek independence, it is critical that we work closely with Galmudug.

They are our neighbours and they support federalism.

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Only after we forced them into accepting peace. Xaaf was a good toy for Gaas I’ll admit that

Sharmake shark said:

I’m not saying Federalism is bad it’s the best we have now but you can’t deny the strong tribalistic ties

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Why? Because every clan is responsible for their own sh*t? Sorry mate, but the days of our country being ruled from a single city, is long gone.

PuntiteQueen said:

There are new generations who are not involved in atrocities so why not move forward.

Any supporter of federalism is our ally.

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what happened to we "wuz Xasuuqed , Marehaan are sociopaths ROAOAOAOR!!!"

@Creed @nomand @Dues Ex Machete

Libaaxseendheer said:

what happened to we "wuz Xasuuqed , Marehaan are sociopaths ROAOAOAOR!!!"

@Creed @nomand @Dues Ex Machete

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Human remains in Somaliland's Valley of Death. Photo courtesy of the Peruvian Forensic Anthropology Team (EPAF) led by Franco Mora. Somaliland, 2018.

On a hot and humid June afternoon, a group of boys wearing FC Barcelona jerseys kicked around a soccer ball in the Malko-Durduro, a dry seasonal river on the outskirts of Hargeisa, the capital of the breakaway territory of Somaliland. At first glance, the flat, red earth of the riverbed made for a typical improvised pitch in this arid region. But recent heavy rains had exposed what had earned the area the moniker “the Valley of Death.” Around them, human bones protruded from the ground. But these kids had grown up playing soccer surrounded by skeletal remains; they hardly noticed them.

Between 1987 and 1989, the regime of Somali dictator Siad Barre massacred an estimated 200,000 members of the Isaaq tribe, the largest clan group in the northwest part of Somalia. At the time, some Isaaqs were fighting for independence, and to eliminate the threat, Barre tried to exterminate all of them. Experts now say there are more than 200 mass graves in Somaliland, most of them in the Valley of Death.

This year marks the 30th anniversary of what is often called the “Hargeisa Holocaust,” when about 90 percent of the city was destroyed and tens of thousands of Isaaqs were killed. Yet there are no major plans to mark the horrors in Somaliland, or anywhere else for that matter. In the past, a few international organizations have recognized the bloodletting. A 2001 UN report investigating the attacks against the Isaaqs concluded that “the crime of genocide was conceived, planned and perpetrated by the Somalia Government against the Isaaq people of northern Somalia.” But the events have been mostly forgotten; the boys playing soccer did not know the story behind the bones.

Even in Hargeisa, many people don’t realize the extent of US support during the genocide. No American has ever apologized for what happened in Somaliland; there has been no internationally backed Truth and Reconciliation Commission; and no one has been criminally punished. There is little funding to investigate—let alone prosecute—the perpetrators. And some of the Somali genocidaires now have close ties to the US-backed government in Mogadishu of President Mohamed Abdullahi Mohamed, known as Farmajo.


https://pulitzercenter.org/reporting/valley-death-somalilands-forgotten-genocide

Cognitivedissonance said:

Human remains in Somaliland's Valley of Death. Photo courtesy of the Peruvian Forensic Anthropology Team (EPAF) led by Franco Mora. Somaliland, 2018.

On a hot and humid June afternoon, a group of boys wearing FC Barcelona jerseys kicked around a soccer ball in the Malko-Durduro, a dry seasonal river on the outskirts of Hargeisa, the capital of the breakaway territory of Somaliland. At first glance, the flat, red earth of the riverbed made for a typical improvised pitch in this arid region. But recent heavy rains had exposed what had earned the area the moniker “the Valley of Death.” Around them, human bones protruded from the ground. But these kids had grown up playing soccer surrounded by skeletal remains; they hardly noticed them.

Between 1987 and 1989, the regime of Somali dictator Siad Barre massacred an estimated 200,000 members of the Isaaq tribe, the largest clan group in the northwest part of Somalia. At the time, some Isaaqs were fighting for independence, and to eliminate the threat, Barre tried to exterminate all of them. Experts now say there are more than 200 mass graves in Somaliland, most of them in the Valley of Death.

This year marks the 30th anniversary of what is often called the “Hargeisa Holocaust,” when about 90 percent of the city was destroyed and tens of thousands of Isaaqs were killed. Yet there are no major plans to mark the horrors in Somaliland, or anywhere else for that matter. In the past, a few international organizations have recognized the bloodletting. A 2001 UN report investigating the attacks against the Isaaqs concluded that “the crime of genocide was conceived, planned and perpetrated by the Somalia Government against the Isaaq people of northern Somalia.” But the events have been mostly forgotten; the boys playing soccer did not know the story behind the bones.

Even in Hargeisa, many people don’t realize the extent of US support during the genocide. No American has ever apologized for what happened in Somaliland; there has been no internationally backed Truth and Reconciliation Commission; and no one has been criminally punished. There is little funding to investigate—let alone prosecute—the perpetrators. And some of the Somali genocidaires now have close ties to the US-backed government in Mogadishu of President Mohamed Abdullahi Mohamed, known as Farmajo.


https://pulitzercenter.org/reporting/valley-death-somalilands-forgotten-genocide

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I think it was like 5k in mudug and 10k in waqoyi

Libaaxseendheer said:

I think it was like 5k in mudug and 10k in waqoyi

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I wont argue with you about mudug since you are from mudug and i am from another part of somalia bari but you have no right to guess how many women and children in burco berbera and hargaysa were massacred by the despotic communist leninist gaal dectarorship of siad barre since you are not from there.

Cognitivedissonance said:

I wont argue with you about mudug since you are from mudug and i am from another part of somalia bari but you have no right to guess how many women and children in burco berbera and hargaysa were massacred by the despotic communist leninist gaal dectarorship of siad barre since you are not from there.

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Markad adna iiga dhowdahay ma duriyada sh isxaaq baad kamidtahay

@DR OSMAN @Gibiin-Udug i was told when siad barre sent his soldiers to bari qardho the soldiers knocked on the doors asking for cismaan maxamud and the inhabitants would answer when they ask them their tribe “ i am bah yaqoub” the soldiers respond no we are looking for cismaan maxamud where can we find them? the soldiers knock on another door, what tribe are you? “maxa ahay bah dirooble” the soldiers say we are not looking for bah dirooble we are looking for cismaan maxamud where can we find them? they knock on another door what tribe are you? “Maxa nahay muuse suldaan” soldiers we are not looking for muuse suldaan, where can we find cismaan maxamud? They knock on another door, are you cismaan maxamud? “maxa nahay bah dhulbhante” the soldiers got confused They knock on another door, what tribe are you? “Maxa nahay bah gareen” when they couldn't find no cismaan maxamud they left