Why not just call it quits on relationships for a while before jumping into another situation? By the first incident you would be jaded and that would be amplified by a factor of 2. You'll carry that over if it's unsorted.
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Why not just call it quits on relationships for a while before jumping into another situation? By the first incident you would be jaded and that would be amplified by a factor of 2. You'll carry that over if it's unsorted.
VixR
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Aw, that kinda tugged on my chordae tendinenae (I recently learned we have heartstrings).These females are rationalizing the act of betrayal like fucking sociopaths. Imagine the cucks that are going to marry them. I would stab myself in the stomach and eat my organs before that ever happened to me.
On the other hand, that word ”cuck” is overused to death, as if anyone could control that.
I’m not saying constant active cheating is okay, but rather a one time thing is not worth losing a good relationship over especially if it was just physical. Your ( and most people’s) extreme negative reaction to cheating is not inherent but rather conditioned by the societies they live in and highly influenced by religion. Humans are not monogamous, which is why half of all marriages fail. We’re forcing monogamy even with an abundance of data that it does not work because we’ve been conditioned by society(&religion) to believe it the only real way to love.
However Monogamy works better for women as women in general have a lower sexual drive than men and are less likely to venture outside the marriage for sex. The opposite is true for men as on average they have a higher sexual drive.
VixR
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No, I disagree with that. If you’re in a “the mistake is being caught” kind of mentality, I don’t understand how you can argue with my position since yours is actually intentional. Your view is nefarious.
I don’t know if I have it in me, but then again I think everyone does.
There’s an older couple (family friends), that I thought had the “best couple” sort of relationship. Turns out they both cheated on each other and worked through it (the husband doesn’t know he got cheated on). It got me thinking. People are complex.
The alchemist
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There's no such thing as "meant to be" in science. Because that's a normative claim, and science doesn't provide that "ought" leap. Science only gives us what "is," which is descriptive.
We don't need to observe the modern Western habitat to understand things. We can just observe how humans have lived cross-culture since ancient times, and monogamy and polygamy have been the natural social structure of the micro-framework in the vast majority of cultures, and it has worked perfectly because it protects the offspring. There are studies on this.
What you are doing is using the existing modern Western dysfunctional framework and saying, "look, it doesn't work." The reason it doesn't work is that humans socially have been socialized in a dysfunctional way. There's a reason the family unit is more fucked among families in the low socioeconomic ladder. There's a correlation between overall wellbeing and how you've been brought up. This is a descriptive and real science. Everything else is just based on societal biases, packaged with some social science that is not there to explain but to push for certain narratives. And it's the reason many people hold social science in lesser regard, compared to other natural sciences.
Hell yeah, I'm socialized to react to the notion of betrayal, because I'm adhering to good morals and cultural values that has existed for a long time and will continue to exist. You're adhering to whatever is mainstream and eating up whatever the capitalist machine is propagating. A normal person wouldn't lie or cheat because it has negative societal consequences in the macro sense, it literally corrupts everything. But you only see it from a selfish individual level and don't understand you're being played by the forces that only focus on profit and portrays lifestyles that are not good.
It's not that monogamy is not compatible with the human nature, it's that the current socialization in the West and the lifestyles the feminist is pushing for in the name of "freedom," is not compatible with monogamy, which I am to remind you again has worked perfectly since the inception. In social science, we learn about the negative consequences of high divorce rates on the macro level; just look at the black family structure in the USA. It's destroyed, and they have been suffering ever since.
I would also say you lack any personal wisdom because you're saying we react in an extreme way, but don't you understand, that normalizing cheating and calling not a big deal would lead to more cases of such pathology. Why would you excuse bad behavior and blame the person that says it's bad just because it makes your cheating ass life harder. lmao
I dont understand what everyone has in them. Everyone has in them to cheat or everyone has forgiving the cheating? Anyway I never been cheated on as far as I know. All I know is I wouldnt forgive the person and if I stayed the trust and respect would be gone. I would stay only to plot revenge and would target a family member to hurt my partner more.
The male need to be sexually possessive is a recent phenomenon. Hunter gatherers were sexually very lax and there is a theory that the reason some women engage in vocalizations during coitus might be partly attributed to increasing desire in other men.
Monogamy and Polygamy though more successful practices were adopted closer to the agrarian phase of development where control over property and women due to strictly ascribed inheritance rights along with social stability became dominant.Long ago no one really knew their aabo. Children were raised collectively and men had a more egalitarian approach to coupling. Hence no cheating. It didn't matter who was there before as long as love was shared.
VixR
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Yikes. You’re just proving my point for me lol. I see no reason to tell someone you’ve cheated once it’s been done and you realize it was a mistake. If it’s a wake up call and the entire relationship is shit, then that’s another thing and you should leave.
Some humans in this forum actually believe cheating is fine and excusable...
As the prophet said, we're destined to become like the 'others'.
As the prophet said, we're destined to become like the 'others'.
The male need to be sexually possessive is a recent phenomenon. Hunter gatherers were sexually very lax and there is a theory that the reason some women engage in vocalizations during coitus might be partly attributed to increasing desire in other men.
Long ago no one really knew their aabo. Children were raised collectively and men had a more egalitarian approach to coupling. Hence no cheating. It didn't matter who was there before as long as love was shared.
Well people get more educated with time. I dont think adopting cavemen life approach will be successful in todays world
Ok but we all know what you dont know wont hurt you. But some people has conscience and the guilt would eat them.on the inside. While they treating you great and telling everyone how great you are and you will have to live with that. This is why i dont date white women at all or dont deal with whites in general. They are far worse in this area and are cold as hell
VixR
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No one said it’s ok to cheat. So cheating is inexcusable to you, but you’re superstitious level 100000x overlooking far greater suffering than domestic cheating when you actually believe god cursed Somalia for Barre being overthrown, and can actually rationalize it as being the reason Somalia is a shithole lol.Some humans in this forum actually believe cheating is fine and excusable...
As the prophet said, we're destined to become like the 'others'.
wtf I never said we got cursed because Barre got overthrowned. I simply stated that as Muslims it's advised to us to not overthrow our leaders cus it would make our situation worse. Stop twisting shit. I never rationalised Barre being overthrown as the cause of our problems.
Also, y did u bring this up in the first place. We're talking about cheating and how YOU think it's excusable for some dumb 21st C reasoning idc enough to know about. Stick to the topic. If u don't wanna post here then just pm me lol.
VixR
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It’s kind of amazing the random shit you attribute to White people alone lol. I weirdly feel like I’m always defending them on here for that reason. The couple I’m talking about aren’t white. The scenario can happen literally anywhere. What on earth would race have to do with it?
Are you saying you don’t see cheating among non-whites, and if you do, you think all of them disclose it, and none of them live with it? I’d daresay the vast majority of women who’ve cheated didn’t disclose it cross-culturally.
Vix white people are weird. Stay away from them lol. Any promotion of immoral behavior they are behind it. Yes everyone cheats. But white people are the least sympathetic and most selfish people out there. I know you have mainly white friends and identify with the white race. But watch out of them. I dont want to watch you on youtube 5 years from now ranting about white people and @R.Kelly making a thread about a xalimo going mad on youtube here lool.
VixR
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The fixation on white people and black people on here is bizarre wallahi loool. Are you actually serious or trolling?
You should know how I roll by now. I do both. Lets call it trollserious lol
Very urbane stance. Are you trying to deny the old wisdoms of the past in favour of a ball-and-chain present?
I recommend celibacy mon ami. No one will ever disappoint your fragile heart. Zero possibility.
Anyone who says telling the truth after they cheated would only hurt the other person and they care about that person’s feelings is lying, the only reason you’re withholding that information is for your own selfish reason, you are scared by telling the truth your partner will leave you, let’s be honest. I don’t like or respect cheaters, and I believe once a cheater always a cheater.
@Boqor Quark Boqor Cisman what use is marriage between multiples? Would it not be better perishing with an intact hymen then wasting goods and great years on an unappreciative man with a penchant for younger pliant females. Most justifications for modern day polygamy aren't of a righteous intent, nor of a humanitarian nature and those days of totally dependent women are vanishing (unless you're opting for a vacation spouse in the mother country who is mostly with you for a cheque). Alx, for education and women taking the reigns.
