Youre not safe either, hawiye are carab too. Banu hawiyaPeriod embrace your awoowe Abdirahman bin Isma'il al-Jabarti’s carab origins
Youre not safe either, hawiye are carab too. Banu hawiyaPeriod embrace your awoowe Abdirahman bin Isma'il al-Jabarti’s carab origins
I’m proud of my Irir Samaale Hiil Abroone roots .Long live Al daroodia though 🫡🫡Youre not safe either, hawiye are carab too. Banu hawiya
We can ignore it once my half arab kids can be accepted as Somali! Now let’s stick to the cold hard truth factzWe should just ignore this obsession with lineage and focus on our shared Somali identity.
They wouldn't be considered ethnic Somali but I don't see why they can't be naturalised or have residency if certain requirements are met.We can ignore it once my half arab kids can be accepted as Somali! Now let’s stick to the cold hard truth factz
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So my half arab kids are foreigners but daroods who have arab lineage are not because they settled here for a while?They wouldn't be considered ethnic Somali but I don't see why they can't be naturalised or have residency if certain requirements are met.
So my half arab kids are foreigners but daroods who have arab lineage are not because they settled here for a while?
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What if they’re cultural somali and can speak it. Plus theyd be half somaliI explained before that ethnicty does not equal one single paternal lineage some Somalis are confused lakiin no one operates this way in the world.
No one considers King Charles German or Farage French. It is basically meaningless even if let's say it was a Chinese ancestor it would change nothing. It is about your total ancestry, culture and time.
Daarood isn't the only one that links itself to Arab lineage. And really it is irrelevant no random in Bosaaso identifies as an Arab even if we accept that Darood was Arab they don't speak Arabic, their culture is not Arab, they are 100% Somali.
Exactly, which is why my kids with arab lineage should be considered full fledged somalis just like daroods are. Matter of fact lets trump the whole somali thing and switch to arab. If ethnicity doesnt equal patrilineal lineage then why can’t my arab kids be Somali!We shouldn't be overly obsessed with lineage and focus on our shared Somali identity. Even in Somali culture they didn't do this the way people do now. Or you lot not know that qabiils would sometimes literally hand over some of their men to another qabiil that was on the verge of being extinct. You also had 'GAASHANBUUR' or confederate alliances and also people straight up creating jilibs.
What if they are paternally Somali?Half Somalis are not Somali
Well, let's take the example of Saudi Arabia, which is made up mostly of supposedly "Arabized" Adnan tribes (I don't believe in this narrative). What are the reasons that made them classified as Arabs? Isn't it the language? the culture ? Or did they intermarry with other Arab tribes for centuries until they became Arabs in identity, culture, and features? This is the case with Daroud, if we assume that he is an “Arab.” His descendants are Somali in culture and language, and they intermarried with the people of the country hundreds of years ago, making them like other Somalis. So in this case, he will simply be given citizenship, and by the way, even Saudi Arabia has the same citizenship system or law that we have.What if they’re cultural somali and can speak it. Plus theyd be half somali
Then my arab kids can be the so called ‘adnanites’ of somalis and be accepted as somalis. Why should they be deemed as non somalis only based on their fathers lineage when that didnt disqualify adnanites and daroods?Well, let's take the example of Saudi Arabia, which is made up mostly of supposedly "Arabized" Adnan tribes (I don't believe in this narrative). What are the reasons that made them classified as Arabs? Isn't it the language? the culture ? Or did they intermarry with other Arab tribes for centuries until they became Arabs in identity, culture, and features? This is the case with Daroud, if we assume that he is an “Arab.” His descendants are Somali in culture and language, and they intermarried with the people of the country hundreds of years ago, making them like other Somalis. So in this case, he will simply be given citizenship, and by the way, even Saudi Arabia has the same citizenship system or law that we have.
Half Somali just like if someone was Maternally Somali only half however taken into account that they have abtirsi and what not they are Somali in SomaliaWhat if they are paternally Somali?
Akisho are Dir aren’t theyIt was quite common for non Somalis to become sheegato and join clans tho.
You had large sections of Oromos that became Habar Awal such as the Akisho.
Are they Somalis?
Yes. I abhor the notion spread by somalis here that dir are oromo. That would make darood maternally oromo and make hawiyes oromos since dir is their siblingAkisho are Dir aren’t they
That’s not fair though. They shouldn’t be considered Somali in Somalia just because their dad is. Lineage is maternal. You are what your mother is!Half Somali just like if someone was Maternally Somali only half however taken into account that they have abtirsi and what not they are Somali in Somalia
They are considered Somali in Somalia.I say they half because there’s another side which shouldn’t be erasedThat’s not fair though. They shouldn’t be considered Somali in Somalia just because their dad is. Lineage is maternal. You are what your mother is!