The real source of contention in Puntland - Follow the Money

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The issues in the whole of Somalia stems from disagreements on how the loot among the elite fractions should be shared, everything else you hear about are all secondary or tertiary side issues given to the dupes.


In the whole Somali peninsula P/land is the only region were it's very difficult to run away with big bucks, the reason for that is that they have the largest elitist circle with a iron clad universal agreement on distribution of the loot set out by the founding father.

Gheedi Fanax was able to escape with 30 million in Xamar, Kulmiye escapes with much more every year, Guleed did the same in Galmudug, HSM took off with 50 million, none of this is possible in P/land in their system.



Friction

Gaas was promised 20+ million for signing the deal with DP world rival also from UAE, he structured the deal in such a way it wouldn't come in the agreed upon P/land coffers but to a separate account his loyalist set up, breaking the iron clad universal agreement, totally unprecedented.


Universal Agreement

Based on what currently exist in the Somali peninsula, this is hands down the best system concocted, the three mohamoud saleeban's take 1/4 each and the remaining 1/4 split among the rest in P/land (allies) all in a shared/controlled account


In this system it's very difficult to cheat, run away with lots of money like what happens in the other parts of the Somali peninsula, more of the populace will also see the money and the fruits, it festers a natural competitive environment.


Breaking the Agreement

Gaas elitist fraction want this changed, there argument is that this agreement is bureaucratic, stifles development & progress in the region arguing for the autonomy Somali model, were the leader controls all.

Much of the Cusman Mohamoud elitists are on board with him, not sure what agreements they struck up, but the Ciise elitists oppose this, they have no choice, it will be the end of them

They have managed to rally the majority of others under the guise and pretences that Gaas is a tuug, he destroyed the economy, doesn't pay soldiers, doing the UAE deal without going through P/land parliament etc. which is the kind of stuff the brainless dupes argue over


My own Conclusions.

Gaas wants to do an Ali Mohammed Gheedi and run off with the money abroad, there is no way with the less then 2 years he has remaining and knowing he will not be re-elected, he cares about spending 20+ million in a noble way.

Even worse he had a deal with HSM for the PM post which I extensively wrote about, he was openly campaigning for HSM re-election on Ethiopia's behest, and the shock of him loosing, is what got him so desperate to try and pull off an impossible heist of epic proportions.
 
You know better than to believe anything this guy is saying. Every prediction he made turned out false. Every one of them. This is the guy that claims the earth is flat :draketf:
He did predict that Gaas was getting desperate, running out of time with a motion coming up and him not being welcomed in Garowe before the recent drama this past week.


Now before you throw your newest rhetoric at me I am simply reiterating what he has said.
 

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He did predict that Gaas was getting desperate, running out of time with a motion coming up and him not being welcomed in Garowe before the recent drama this past week.


Now before you throw your newest rhetoric at me I am simply reiterating what he has said.

You always reiterate what he says. Be your own man.
 
You always reiterate what he says. Be your own man.
:kanyehmm:You embarras me with your attempt at undermining me. That was one instance to remind you as you seem to have alzheimers causing you to state lies.



Why is it always the same people that reply with the same bad insults or deflections:tacky: Atleast try sxb.




Will you respond to the thread and @Inquisitive_ 's posts or do you want to continue with whatever pathetic strategy you're trying to use? :sass2:
 
@Abdalla I've left open and clear opportunities for you in my post above. Your reply will be my intelligence evaluation of you.



Can you show me your better than you're representing yourself as?:dabcasar:
 

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Why do you seek so much validation from me? If you make valid points, I will address it. If you mimick someone else, I will call you out. If you make silly points, I will ignore it. Simple. Stop seeking validations from unknown forumers.
 
Do you have proof for your allegations about Gaas and the port deal?


I have been following the port deal for some time now. I have come across very little information about the port deal, even the one signed in early 2015. Do you have any information on that even?
 
Why do you seek so much validation from me?
I seek to mentally break you down into a vegetable.
If you make valid points, I will address it.
Adress them with deflections and irrelevant word-puke?:kodaksmiley:
If you mimick someone else, I will call you out.
That must be an uneventful job.
Simple. Stop seeking validations from unknown forumers.
How does one seek validation in a discussion? I don't seek to change your mind.


As you're going to not stay on topic I will end this discussion.




And you failed your test btw :bell:
 
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Sxb, the dude is not 100% waba ka naxa to be honest. I can't waste a single post on him unless he comes with something worth my while and even then my response to him will be for the benefit of others not him, he is a lost cause. If you take this dead beat horse to the well, he would dive in and commit suicide


Do you have proof for your allegations about Gaas and the port deal?


I have been following the port deal for some time now. I have come across very little information about the port deal, even the one signed in early 2015. Do you have any information on that even?

What constitutes as proof? Somali tabloid story? if yes which site? Pro Gaas sites ? How about Gaas cleaner, maid or therapist? would they be good enough?

Do you see the absurdity in your questioning? Gaas is going to announce he is going to do the greatest heist in P/land??? your asking me about the port deal that even the shoe shiner on the street knows about? man! Your so far into that wilderness, I don't even know were to start with you.
 

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I can picture @Inquisitive_ deep down in the dungeon where he resides frantically writing his novels on The maxamud saleeban Bermuda Triangle losing sleep & having nightmares that he's lost in the maxamud saleeban Bermuda triangle & cant find his way out:siilaanyolaugh:
 

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Faroole is against abdiweli & wants power but he now knows that there's no way in hell of Abdiweli leaving until he's time is done till then anyone who causes disruption to puntland will be dealt with swiftly & remorselessly, soon madaxweyne Gaas will be back in Garoowe in sha Allah.
 
@Prince of Hobyo

Sxb, the dude is not 100% waba ka naxa to be honest. I can't waste a single post on him unless he comes with something worth my while and even then my response to him will be for the benefit of others not him, he is a lost cause. If you take this dead beat horse to the well, he would dive in and commit suicide




What constitutes as proof? Somali tabloid story? if yes which site? Pro Gaas sites ? How about Gaas cleaner, maid or therapist? would they be good enough?

Do you see the absurdity in your questioning? Gaas is going to announce he is going to do the greatest heist in P/land??? your asking me about the port deal that even the shoe shiner on the street knows about? man! Your so far into that wilderness, I don't even know were to start with you.


You are making all kinds of accusations. I am asking you to show me something that gives your accusations substance.
Why should I believe you? What evidence can you give to prove that your are claims are not similar to those
made by the doomsday soothsayer?

I know each Somali maamul is so corrupt that can be considered dysfunctional so it is not too hard to believe that they would sell their assets. That being said, I can't just accept your claims until you prove that the port deal is terrible, or at least prove Gaas's corruption.
 
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