Sudan autosomal study

[Jodeci]

Some Sudanese yes... But no Bejas

1) Bedawie/Debaywan
2) What name?
3) The language and sometimes countrymen regardless of class
4) Just regular people, a lot of Somalis go to College in Khartoum

For #2 I mean is it pronounced Be-ja or Beha? Also what does it mean?

Questions:

1. What are some of the tribal names of your people?
   
2. Do you have ancient kingdoms?
   
3. What do you call camels in your language?
4. How did Islam reach you guys?

5.Can you count to 10 in your Language for us here? Is it similar to Somali?

 

[Apollo]

How I would partition Northeast Africa based on race:

 

[Menelik III]

Kush kingdom had nothing to do with us. The Kermans were Cushites though.

When are you gonna move back to Sana'a?

The We Wuz is strong within you.

How I would partition Northeast Africa based on race:

Have linguist explained how omotic fits in the picture? If they are idegenous then how do they speak an afroasiatic language?

One explanation might be that they split from the rest very early on. It seems that they do not share the same words for pastoralism, suggesting that they separated from Cushitic languages before the north highland and east lowland divide.

 

[Grant]

Check out the research on Neolithic ancient DNA studies from Europe, groups can be totally wiped out and be replaced in a matter of centuries. Also in Tanzania this is the case.

Threatened groups can also migrate, as in the known millennia of migration up the Nile and it's tributaries.

 

[Sophisticate]

The We Wuz is strong within you.

Have linguist explained how omotic fits in the picture? If they are idegenous then how do they speak an afroasiatic language?

One explanation might be that they split from the rest very early on. It seems that they do not share the same words for pastoralism, suggesting that they separated from Cushitic languages before the north highland and east lowland divide.

Not necessarily. There is evidence to suggest a proto-Cushitic language in Kerma. Why are you cheerleading for the Yemenites and Nilo-Saharan, though. Don't tell me it's the new Omotic + Arab admixture that's speaking on your behalf Mr. Habeshi. No Cushite in sight, it appears.

 

[Menelik III]

Not necessarily. There is evidence to suggest a proto-Cushitic language in Kerma. Why are you cheerleading for the Yemenites and Nilo-Saharan, though. Don't tell me it's the new Omotic + Arab admixture that's speaking on your behalf Mr. Habeshi. No Cushite in sight, it appears.

I'm Habesha and Ethiopian. No such thing as Cushitic in practicality my friend

Kerma or Kush existed around 2000bce, this is not that long ago when compared to certain events. If they spoke a cushtic language it should be evident by now and would not be in the proto state.

Ethiopians were already speaking Ethiopic (Semitic) by around 3000-2500bce.

We are the true Semites

 

[Jodeci]

@Menelik III Sorry to burst your bubble but your source is bullshit and made up, like the Microsoft Paint map you dropped in the Yemeni stealing somali food thread. @sophisticate is correct in what she was saying.
The reason why your source is bullshit you stupid Ethiopian is because there is no such thing as "Ogaden Arabic" and why is it the same as Moroccan Arabic?

Why do Ethiopians always bring made up shit to the table?

 

[Sophisticate]

I'm Habesha and Ethiopian. No such thing as Cushitic in practicality my friend

Kerma or Kush existed around 2000bce, this is not that long ago when compared to certain events. If they spoke a cushtic language it should be evident by now and would not be in the proto state.

Ethiopians were already speaking Ethiopic (Semitic) by around 3000-2500bce.

We are the true Semites

Sure bro.

 

[Grant]

Talk about stubborn on both sides! Cush is also Kush. For crying out loud, look at where the Cushites in Ethiopia are today.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cushi

"Cush or Kush (כּוּשׁ Kūš) is the name of an ancient ethnic group who came from the land of Cush, centered on the Upper Nile and Nubia (modern-day Sudan). Mentioned in the Hebrew Bible, they are considered descendants of Noah's grandson, Cush the son of Ham.

According to Ethiopian historians, the Kushite Empire also controlled the mountainous regions around the source of the Blue Nile at first, and the Cushitic and Agaw peoples of Ethiopia (including the Bete Israel or Ethiopian Jews, who have largely migrated to Israel) still maintain traditions of descent from Cush."

https://www.thefreedictionary.com/Cushite

Cushite

Also found in: Encyclopedia, Wikipedia.
Related to Cushite: Nimrod, Cushitic languages
cush
(ko͝osh)
n. Chiefly Southern US
A dish made by frying or boiling cornmeal or crumbled cornbread with grease and often other ingredients such as pieces of meat or onion.
[Akin to cush-cush.]
Cush 1
(kŭsh, ko͝osh)
In the Bible, the oldest son of Ham.
Cush 2
also Kush (kŭsh, ko͝osh)
1. An ancient region of northeast Africa identified in the Bible as the land of the descendants of Cush. It is often identified with Ethiopia.
2. An ancient kingdom of Nubia in northern Sudan. It flourished from the 11th century bc to the 4th century ad, when its capital fell to the Ethiopians.
Cush′ite adj. & n.

 

[Menelik III]

Talk about stubborn on both sides! Cush is also Kush. For crying out loud, look at where the Cushites in Ethiopia are today.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cushi

"Cush or Kush (כּוּשׁ Kūš) is the name of an ancient ethnic group who came from the land of Cush, centered on the Upper Nile and Nubia (modern-day Sudan). Mentioned in the Hebrew Bible, they are considered descendants of Noah's grandson, Cush the son of Ham.

According to Ethiopian historians, the Kushite Empire also controlled the mountainous regions around the source of the Blue Nile at first, and the Cushitic and Agaw peoples of Ethiopia (including the Bete Israel or Ethiopian Jews, who have largely migrated to Israel) still maintain traditions of descent from Cush."

https://www.thefreedictionary.com/Cushite

Cushite

Also found in: Encyclopedia, Wikipedia.
Related to Cushite: Nimrod, Cushitic languages
cush
(ko͝osh)
n. Chiefly Southern US
A dish made by frying or boiling cornmeal or crumbled cornbread with grease and often other ingredients such as pieces of meat or onion.
[Akin to cush-cush.]
Cush 1
(kŭsh, ko͝osh)
In the Bible, the oldest son of Ham.
Cush 2
also Kush (kŭsh, ko͝osh)
1. An ancient region of northeast Africa identified in the Bible as the land of the descendants of Cush. It is often identified with Ethiopia.
2. An ancient kingdom of Nubia in northern Sudan. It flourished from the 11th century bc to the 4th century ad, when its capital fell to the Ethiopians.
Cush′ite adj. & n.

That's a clear lie. Kush never stretched past Meroe. Ethiopian historians never said such things and the agew surely do not claim it. They have been living in the current area long before the kingdom existed.
People aren't created out of kingdoms etc and thin air. There's literally a million+1 evidence that shows your theory to be false. These include historical accounts, oral tradition, written accounts, archeological remains, and evidence of human settlement.

Kush was a sudanic (nilo-Saharan) kingdom, are you suggesting that they couldn't have formed it without them being cushtic?

It's blatantly obvious that the cushtic languages developed in the Horn, and most likely in northern Ethiopia. I'm just wondering why you push such false propaganda?

Ps the cushtic languages date to around 10-8k bce.

 

[Jodeci]

I'm just wondering why you push such false propaganda?

Why do you post fake sources? What the f*ck is Ogaden Arabic

 

[Menelik III]

Why do you post fake sources? What the f*ck is Ogaden Arabic

It's the Arabic spoken in hararghe.

 

[Jodeci]

It's the Arabic spoken in hararghe.

Hrarghe they don't speak Arabic as a first language,unless they go to Sudan Egypt or Yemen
There is no unique branch of Arabic spoken in the Somali region at all

Another Ethiopian lie exposed

 

[Menelik III]

Hrarghe they don't speak Arabic as a first language,unless they go to Sudan Egypt or Yemen
There is no unique branch of Arabic spoken in the Somali region at all

Another Ethiopian lie exposed

It's not that serious, but they spoke Arabic as a common language for many years. The language of adal (harar) was Arabic.

 

[Jodeci]

It's not that serious, but they spoke Arabic as a common language for many years. The language of adal (harar) was Arabic.

More Ethiopian lies,

can you tell us some unique words to "Ogaden Arabic"

 

[Prince Abubu]

Why do you post fake sources? What the f*ck is Ogaden Arabic

Nicca said "Ogaden Arabic"?

 

[Jodeci]

Nicca said "Ogaden Arabic"?

Its apparently "Central Semitic" and closely related to Moroccan Arabic

 

[Grant]

That's a clear lie. Kush never stretched past Meroe. Ethiopian historians never said such things and the agew surely do not claim it. They have been living in the current area long before the kingdom existed.
People aren't created out of kingdoms etc and thin air. There's literally a million+1 evidence that shows your theory to be false. These include historical accounts, oral tradition, written accounts, archeological remains, and evidence of human settlement.

Kush was a sudanic (nilo-Saharan) kingdom, are you suggesting that they couldn't have formed it without them being cushtic?

It's blatantly obvious that the cushtic languages developed in the Horn, and most likely in northern Ethiopia. I'm just wondering why you push such false propaganda?

Ps the cushtic languages date to around 10-8k bce.

Oromo descends from Meroe. This is recent work by an Ethiopian scholar at the University of Haramaya.

https://www.academia.edu/5847718/Me...he_mystery_of_Meroitic_language?auto=download


"MEROE, OROMO AND OLD NUBIAN: SOLVING THE MYSTERY OF MEROITIC LANGUAGE
Dereje Tadesse Birbirso (PhD) College of Social Science and Humanities Haramaya University, Ethiopia dttadesse@yahoo.com
Abstract

"Meroitic language is one of the most controversial ancient languages but one of the few having advanced writing systems. Some classify it Asian, European, non-African, Semitic, or ‘unclassified’. This paper contends Meroe, similar to their Cushitic friends, are left victims of preconceived ideas based on an entirely argument from silence, an hegemonic epistemology that elevates a single perspective and silences other(s). This paper, thus, comparatively analyzes Meroitic and Old Nubian lexical and grammatical items with corresponding Oromo, a Cushitic family which, many classical and contemporary philologists/linguists argue derives from a unique vocabulary possibly the Ancient language of the Nile Valley and/or Horn of Africa. Meroitic and Old Nubian lexical, grammatical and epigraphic data were collected from secondary sources by Meroitic researchers. Oromo corpora are obtained both from classical and modern descriptions and native-speakers. Results indicate Oromo lexemes show significant level of cognates with not only Meroitic and Old Nubian, but also with the Ancient Egyptian to their northern part."

 

[XoosBoos]

Oromo descends from Meroe. This is recent work by an Ethiopian scholar at the University of Haramaya.

https://www.academia.edu/5847718/Me...he_mystery_of_Meroitic_language?auto=download


"MEROE, OROMO AND OLD NUBIAN: SOLVING THE MYSTERY OF MEROITIC LANGUAGE
Dereje Tadesse Birbirso (PhD) College of Social Science and Humanities Haramaya University, Ethiopia dttadesse@yahoo.com
Abstract

"Meroitic language is one of the most controversial ancient languages but one of the few having advanced writing systems. Some classify it Asian, European, non-African, Semitic, or ‘unclassified’. This paper contends Meroe, similar to their Cushitic friends, are left victims of preconceived ideas based on an entirely argument from silence, an hegemonic epistemology that elevates a single perspective and silences other(s). This paper, thus, comparatively analyzes Meroitic and Old Nubian lexical and grammatical items with corresponding Oromo, a Cushitic family which, many classical and contemporary philologists/linguists argue derives from a unique vocabulary possibly the Ancient language of the Nile Valley and/or Horn of Africa. Meroitic and Old Nubian lexical, grammatical and epigraphic data were collected from secondary sources by Meroitic researchers. Oromo corpora are obtained both from classical and modern descriptions and native-speakers. Results indicate Oromo lexemes show significant level of cognates with not only Meroitic and Old Nubian, but also with the Ancient Egyptian to their northern part."

You shouldn’t take Oromo sites as a proper source. They spew bullshit and claim everything. I tell you, by just using oromo articles made by them. then your point is invalid.

 

[Grant]

You shouldn’t take Oromo sites as a proper source. They spew bullshit and claim everything. I tell you, by just using oromo articles made by them. then your point is invalid.

1. Dereje T Birbirso | Haramaya university - Academia.edu
   haramaya.academia.edu/DerejeTadesse/CurriculumVitae
   Curriculum Vitae. Dereje T Birbirso. Haramaya university, English, Faculty Member. Download ...

Oromo website ? Author has an MA from Umea University, Sweden, Phd from Huramaya; is Associate Professor of English and Linguistics at Huramaya. This paper has been academically reviewed.

I suppose you say the same things about Sade Mire....