Somalia could have been saved damn

[Tjioux]

From the late 1980s onwards, two parallel tracks emerged to address the deepening national crisis as the country plunged into political and economic chaos, armed opposition forces pressed towards the capital, the government lost control of many regions outside Mogadishu, and administrative structures disintegrated. On the one hand, a group comprising the remnants of the former civilian government launched an initiative to try to salvage the country from total collapse by attempting to persuade Siyad Barre to resign and form a caretaker government. Although this strategy put them in opposition not only to the Barre regime but also the armed opposition groups (see below), the process gained momentum and gathered popular support as a mass movement. It built upon the preceding mobilisation of civic actors, which included a cultural group who composed songs and plays, such as the well-known “Land cruiser” depicting the travesties of the regime. Members of the group were mostly urban-based or in the diaspora and had connections with both Western countries (notably Italy) and the Arab world. Many of them had suffered long imprisonment under the Barre regime and several leading members originated from the northeast regions, including General Mohamed Abshir (who acted as the group’s spokesman on the BBC and the Voice of America), Abdirizak Haji Hussein (former prime minister and well-respected Somali nationalist), Abdulahi Boqor Musse “King Kong” (brother of the boqor, or king, of the Darod clan), and General Abdulahi Ali Farah “Hoolif”. Other key figures included the advocate Ismail Jumaale, the focal point for the group before he passed away in Italy, as well as Ali Mahdi and Hussein Bod, all from the Hawiye clan family. In mid-1990, the group, now numbering over one hundred prominent political, traditional and religious figures, engaged in a series of underground meetings in which the “Manifesto Declaration” was drafted. The Manifesto Declaration temporarily united former political rivals and was signed by 114 members of the ‘Manifesto Group’, as it became known. The government responded by arresting outspoken members of the group and, although they were quickly released in response to foreign pressure, the movement faltered.

Siad barre what a xoolo he was

AUN tho..

 

[Hassan Garguute Buldanana]

He did what any dictator would do, cling to power any way possibe.

The interhamwe militias could have formed a government once he left xamar but made it into qabil war. Then turned the guns on themselves. A failed colonial project.

 

[Ras]

Siad Barre was pretty senile at this point and the regime was most likely controlled by traitors who were in Ethiopia's pocket.

Addis Ababa worked so hard to orchestrate the upcoming chaos through their trained rebel groups...


there was no way they were going to let a group of rational civilians screw up their plans to destabilise Somalia.

Not blaming this a 100% on foreigners though but it clearly didn't all happen by chance and stupidity.

 

[Cadmus]

Most people are ignorant of the real reason for the collapse of the Somali government. The state has always survived, but in a dormant state.
The real reason for Somalia's devastation, is because of IMF shock therapy and World Bank forced austerity programs 10 years before the civil war.
The economic warfare programs eventually destroyed all fabric of the state, and a collective lowering of conscientiousness ensued whereby everyone started to look after their own interest and clan., Pure and simple. It was an engineered collapse. Look at what they did to Greece. Greece was the holiday capital of EU, with billions and billions in Foreign Direct Investments annually. Fully self-sufficient food and agro industry. Now they have no food production, all their pensions have been taken by the IMF and German investment banks as part of "structural programs conditions," and their middle class are eating out of the trash in alleys because they can't afford to buy food from the supermarket.

After 10 straight years of economic warfare, the Americans used helicopters to kill all the elders who gathered to force peace in Xamar by using the traditional Somali clan elder system in a positive way, which has always provided a social net against anarchy. Most if not all were dead within a space of 10 minutes. This was the real reason for Black Hawk Down a few days later.

If they can do that to Greece, than of course we didn't stand a chance. But the situation has changed for the better now.

 

[Cadmus]

@Gambar What part of what I wrote amuses you?

 

[Warsheekh]

My Awoowe was one of the Manifesto signatories.


The manifesto was signed by all the prominent somalis Like Adden cadde first president, Sheikh mukhtar first speaker of parliament, ina carte Qalib etc check the full list on the Below Link

http://www.biyokulule.com/Somali Manifesto I.htm


If MSB listened to The Maanifesto group, Hussein kulmiye would be interim president until a election was held. And somalia would not see a civil war. Without doubt MSB and Ceydiid is the worst that happened to somalia.

 

[Warsheekh]

He did what any dictator would do, cling to power any way possibe.

The interhamwe militias could have formed a government once he left xamar but made it into qabil war. Then turned the guns on themselves. A failed colonial project.

Actually. In the beginning USC was only targeting MSB gov. Heck even Daarods where pro USC in the beginning. It all got fucked when the red berets started shelling majority hawiye neighbourhoods such as Wardhiigley, huriwaa, Yaaqshid. And killing hawiye's indiscriminately. MSB knew he was fucked so he started the qabiil card. It fucked somalia for eternity what a egoistic piece of shid he was. Aun tho

 

[Abdalla]

My Awoowe was one of the Manifesto signatories.


The manifesto was signed by all the prominent somalis Like Adden cadde first president, Sheikh mukhtar first speaker of parliament, ina carte Qalib etc check the full list on the Below Link

http://www.biyokulule.com/Somali Manifesto I.htm


If MSB listened to The Maanifesto group, Hussein kulmiye would be interim president until a election was held. And somalia would not see a civil war. Without doubt MSB and Ceydiid is the worst that happened to somalia.

So you inherited your IQ from Cali Mahdi

 

[TheAnswer]

Manfestio members (mostly hawyie) had no problem seeing their fellow signatories who were Darood get murdered by USC militia outside the places they were meeting. All of this was described in the 2013 book on the Somali civil war by that Dutch historian. This goes to show Manifesto was a fraudulent and clannish movement.