Reer Afgooye address the killings that have happened recently in the Afgooye district.

[mohamedismail]

 

[GaradShabeel]

What type of forces are present in Afgoye? I saw some of them advocating for KG Daraawish to be deployed there.

 

[mohamedismail]

What type of forces are present in Afgoye? I saw some of them advocating for KG Daraawish to be deployed there.

SNA troops Aka Hiraab militias. There are no kgs Daraawiish there. But inshallah very soon there needs to be kgs troops deployed there.

But the reality is Hiraab are anti Kgs troops being deployed there because there power will be reduced substantially. Also due to the proximity Afgooye has to Xamar they are against it.

Hiraab forces take huge Isbaaro money from that region. I don't think they will lose that easily. It's gonna need xoog badan.

 

[Step a side]

Afgooye is the breadbasket of Mogadishu.

 

[GaradShabeel]

SNA troops Aka Hiraab militias. There are no kgs Daraawiish there. But inshallah very soon there needs to be kgs troops deployed there.

But the reality is Hiraab are anti Kgs troops being deployed there because there power will be reduced substantially. Also due to the proximity Afgooye has to Xamar they are against it.

Hiraab forces take huge Isbaaro money from that region. I don't think they will lose that easily. It's gonna need xoog badan.

How will this even happen? Banaadir and Shabeellaha hoose seems to be very much integrated (and increasing more over time) to the point that you can't separate the two, with a direct influence via Xamar. I highly doubt that they'll ever let go control of the security apparatus of the region, unless KG concede to them and maybe include them within KG forces or another arrangement that will keep them present there.

 

[Bowda-dheer]

How will this even happen? Banaadir and Shabeellaha hoose seems to be very much integrated (and increasing more over time) to the point that you can't separate the two, with a direct influence via Xamar. I highly doubt that they'll ever let go control of the security apparatus of the region, unless KG concede to them and maybe include them within KG forces or another arrangement that will keep them present there.

Kg are masaakiin bro forget about barawe and afgoye they can’t even help out the hubeer clan in daafeed who have been dealing with galjecel who are putting up isbaaro in their lands supported by Hawiye military guys. Daafeed is right in the gates of buurhakaba very soon they will be worried about baydhabo if they don’t support hubeer in daafeed.

The digil clans in afgoye have long given up on elaay support they live peacefully with their Hawiye brothers and the best way for them to get their rights is to ally with mudulood clans like wacdaan so they can get their lion share and not be robbed by hg moryaan.

 

[GaradShabeel]

Kg are masaakiin bro forget about barawe and afgoye they can’t even help out the hubeer clan in daafeed who have been dealing with galjecel who are putting up isbaaro in their lands supported by Hawiye military guys. Daafeed is right in the gates of buurhakaba very soon they will be worried about baydhabo if they don’t support hubeer in daafeed.

The digil clans in afgoye have long given up on elaay support they live peacefully with their Hawiye brothers and the best way for them to get their rights is to ally with mudulood clans like wacdaan so they can get their lion share and not be robbed by hg moryaan.

Wtf?!? Near Buurhakaba? That's deep inside KG

Also, why doesn't SNA reflect the clan make up of a region they're present in? It seems to be the catalyst for continuous problems.

 

[Bowda-dheer]

Wtf?!? Near Buurhakaba? That's deep inside KG

Some of them were complaining to Laftagareen and expressed disappointment in him. But what can he even do to support them on the ground? Forget about their clansmen. AS have a firm control over a significant part of the state, also a lack of direct access to some of the Digil inhabited places in L. Shabeele like Baraawe.

Hoping that KG will gain total control is out of the window for now and near future. Even if AS were to be liberated from the state. It surely seems best for them to ally with likeminded clans they live with. And importantly seek to have more representations in the SNA present there.

Shabab gets its bulk of the foot soldiers from raxanweyn lands especially bay and bakool. Very cheap to recruit from there no strong odey Dhaqameed to stop them. LG plays the elaay renaissance figure but he’s weak because the boqol hore leysaan and hadame want the seat and he is barely holding up even with the help of Ethiopian amisom. A strong boqol
Hore+leysaan lee government would probably have helped the hubeer because the leysan and boqol hore are traditional raxanweyn powerhouse alongside the elaay in buurbakaba.

 

[mohamedismail]

How will this even happen? Banaadir and Shabeellaha hoose seems to be very much integrated (and increasing more over time) to the point that you can't separate the two, with a direct influence via Xamar. I highly doubt that they'll ever let go control of the security apparatus of the region, unless KG concede to them and maybe include them within KG forces or another arrangement that will keep them present there.

It's quite simple. Kgs will send their troops slowly to lower shabeele in the hundreds untill they one day numerically dominate lower shabeele. If the SNA try to fight then those troops will be supported by more troops and they will be suppressed. Hopefully this will work. There will be no concession to Banaadir.

The long term plan is for the Kgs troops to outnumber the SNA and further more set up a base at Siinka dheer which is the point where Banaadir / Shabeelada hoose meet. They will then open up a custom in which they will tax vehicles leaving from Banaadir to Koonfur galbeed and Banaadir.

This will take time though and also maybe a few dagaals.

 

[mohamedismail]

Kg are masaakiin bro forget about barawe and afgoye they can’t even help out the hubeer clan in daafeed who have been dealing with galjecel who are putting up isbaaro in their lands supported by Hawiye military guys. Daafeed is right in the gates of buurhakaba very soon they will be worried about baydhabo if they don’t support hubeer in daafeed.

The digil clans in afgoye have long given up on elaay support they live peacefully with their Hawiye brothers and the best way for them to get their rights is to ally with mudulood clans like wacdaan so they can get their lion share and not be robbed by hg moryaan.

Focus on Ogadenia. Oromos will soon take over Ogaden land in DDS. That should be more of the issue.

 

[mohamedismail]

Shabab gets its bulk of the foot soldiers from raxanweyn lands especially bay and bakool. Very cheap to recruit from there no strong odey Dhaqameed to stop them. LG plays the elaay renaissance figure but he’s weak because the boqol hore leysaan and hadame want the seat and he is barely holding up even with the help of Ethiopian amisom. A strong boqol
Hore+leysaan lee government would probably have helped the hubeer because the leysan and boqol hore are traditional raxanweyn powerhouse alongside the elaay in buurbakaba.

The real shabaab is Axmed Madoobe who is has a deal with Shabaab that he doesn't attack their base in middle jubba Nd they don't attack him in his kismaayo.

 

[Bowda-dheer]

Focus on Ogadenia. Oromos will soon take over Ogaden land in DDS. That should be more of the issue.

Oromo are in baydhabo shaking their ass I have to keep an on baydhabo sxb cadawga gudaha is worse than cadawga Dibada.

 

[mohamedismail]

Oromo are in baydhabo shaking their ass I have to keep an on baydhabo sxb cadawga gudaha is worse than cadawga Dibada.

Jigjiga will soon become 50% Oromo and Amhara. I dont think it gets more internal then that for a ogaden mate.