Puntland confirms that there will be a conference organized by the International partners on April 3

It isn't a "better" position, its a fairly good compromise. Both sides tannasuled to something more reasonable. And it only takes one party to withdraw due to pettiness, and its game over.

1 will not occur, the constitution is in Farmajo favour. If 1 doesn't occur, what makes you think 2 would occur (Xalane is basically AMISOM territory, meeting there with their guards) (Also this guise of "Muh Security, My life matters" is just a excuse to not attend, do you truly think Madoobe would be rattled at night, with him and his 8 Tekiknos and countless guards protecting him, same goes for Deni who brought in most of the PSF)

3 looks more visible, and that stems down to the structure of the meeting. If JL or PL doesn't like its outcome, its tough luck, Swan and the IC are not liking the pettiness from all sides. Farmajo showed his cards, and right now, its tight. You take the compromise, or leave, start a Parallel process and face the IC and basically giving Farmajo the pass to do whatever he wants;
Farmaajo has been in office 2 months after his mandate expired. He's the one running out of time and is under pressure. if he could just sit there indefinitely with no problems, we wouldn't be having a meeting every 3 seconds.

now if he agrees to the third one, it'd mean he's no longer a president but a candidate.


whatever he does, things will be worse for him than they are right now.
 

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Farmaajo has been in office 2 months after his mandate expired. He's the one running out of time and is under pressure. if he could just sit there indefinitely with no problems, we wouldn't be having a meeting every 3 seconds.

now if he agrees to the third one, it'd mean he's no longer a president but a candidate.


whatever he does, things will be worse for him than they are right now.
Farmajo isn't running out of time constitutionally, if he was in office yesterday, he shall be in office today and until a election takes place. The only reason "he is running out of time" is because of the risk of violence and this nonsense of a parallel process. These meetings are basically a sign of formality. If it didn't mean anything, then Deni and Madoobe wouldn't have been shitting bricks in Xamar, they would have returned to their respective regions and not risk anything. IC is fed up, the people is fed up, its elections or nothing.

Also, the office of President cannot be left empty, and your sure mistaken if you think Farmajo is giving up the kursi to a NSC candidate for "temporary". The President has the upper hand, not the candidate. Trump is a example for that.

If the agreement is signed, its not a loss for anyone. If extension occurs, and a parallel election occurs, both sides fell into the IC trap, thus a lose lose. Nothing here shall affect one side more then another.
 
Farmajo isn't running out of time constitutionally, if he was in office yesterday, he shall be in office today and until a election takes place. The only reason "he is running out of time" is because of the risk of violence and this nonsense of a parallel process. These meetings are basically a sign of formality. If it didn't mean anything, then Deni and Madoobe wouldn't have been shitting bricks in Xamar, they would have returned to their respective regions and not risk anything. IC is fed up, the people is fed up, its elections or nothing.

Also, the office of President cannot be left empty, and your sure mistaken if you think Farmajo is giving up the kursi to a NSC candidate for "temporary". The President has the upper hand, not the candidate. Trump is a example for that.

If the agreement is signed, its not a loss for anyone. If extension occurs, and a parallel election occurs, both sides fell into the IC trap, thus a lose lose. Nothing here shall affect one side more then another.
IF a parallel election is held, it's too late for the IC and you can expect a full blown out war in xamar at that point since you'd have farmaajo vs a hawiye "president" in the same city.

Farmaajo is in office today and will be in office tomorrow, but how long can he ben office?
if PL and JL go home, that's the end of a consensus based solution which means your adeer has two options.
1. squat there by force and try and karbaash anyone who opposes him.
2. hold an election with his loyal dogs aka the gareen family and elect himself.

Either one of these would face a massive backlash from hawiyes because if Pl and Jl go home, farmaajo is only president for them, and the only thing worse than that would be if he crowns himself in front of them again.
 
You guys wanted Madasha involved in these meetings, it didnt happen. You wanted both former presidents included, it didnt happen.
You wanted Abdi Hashi to be Somalilands main man and representative...but again it didnt happen. You wanted to demolish the 17th September agreement and completely restart the entire process, balse you guessed it ...That didnt happen too.
Last but not least you wanted all the Mps coming from Gedo to go under Madoobes admin. Lol it didnt happen

So you tell me sxb, what do you get out of this meeting? Maxaad inoo dhibtey hadad ugu dambeynti Isdhiibeyso? :what1:

War wuxu waa chess
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Trust me they know but are too embarrassed to admit :russ:
 
IF a parallel election is held, it's too late for the IC and you can expect a full blown out war in xamar at that point since you'd have farmaajo vs a hawiye "president" in the same city.

Farmaajo is in office today and will be in office tomorrow, but how long can he ben office?
if PL and JL go home, that's the end of a consensus based solution which means your adeer has two options.
1. squat there by force and try and karbaash anyone who opposes him.
2. hold an election with his loyal dogs aka the gareen family and elect himself.

Either one of these would face a massive backlash from hawiyes because if Pl and Jl go home, farmaajo is only president for them, and the only thing worse than that would be if he crowns himself in front of them again.

So all you're hoping and counting on is a hawiye starting war in mogadishu? Kkk
There was extension on the table before the IC told farmaajo one last chance and the un security council had a meeting. The un meeting was a signal. There are no preconditions there will be signing of september agreement and baidoa agreement. If hypothetically deni and madoobe still refused it would come with sanctions. Thats why Deni hurried up and said he will sign.

After they get sanctioned they still dont sign which is highly unlikely then farmaajo will just extend with full backing from IC. Mucaarad candidates cant do shit, mogadisbu is a hawiye city and they will be stopped by hawiye troops. Already MM candidates are jumping ships like Gelle. Your hopes that MM will get farmaajo out of there are just hopes. Just dreams.
 
So all you're hoping and counting on is a hawiye starting war in mogadishu? Kkk
There was extension on the table before the IC told farmaajo one last chance and the un security council had a meeting. The un meeting was a signal. There are no preconditions there will be signing of september agreement and baidoa agreement. If hypothetically deni and madoobe still refused it would come with sanctions. Thats why Deni hurried up and said he will sign.

After they get sanctioned they still dont sign which is highly unlikely then farmaajo will just extend with full backing from IC. Mucaarad candidates cant do shit, mogadisbu is a hawiye city and they will be stopped by hawiye troops. Already MM candidates are jumping ships like Gelle. Your hopes that MM will get farmaajo out of there are just hopes. Just dreams.
What's the next four years of farmaajo looking like
 
Trust me they know but are too embarrassed to admit :russ:

Beesha Boon will be banned from holding PM or President role after Farmaajo well done. Seriously what Hawiye President is going to name a Marehan PM after Farmaajo? lol
I mean just look at how Farmaajo came to power? No Boon can take power themselves they must be appointed just like Siyad Barre. Farmaajo was brought in to help beesha xamar in balancing Puntland power, he only made it clear the purpose of Puntland pretty sure there won't be any questions or assumptions going forward. :)

I mean just look at somnet-aka-boon-zone you boons have turned it into Dictatorship and now chat among yourselves with multiple nicks/usernames, there is something seriously wrong with the Boon DNA.

You dam bottom feeders who live off others, now even reer Mogadishu understands why your Darood bastard child.

Farmaajo was always Mogadishu President and they no longer need or want him. Case closed.
Gedo President is Mr Blackie lol
 

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It's a signing ceremony

PL/JL went from f*ck the 17th September agreement we wont sign it to, "Okay okay we'll sign it if Farmaajo doesnt make any official announcements-"

:dead:
Really you are idiot lool. They will sign when your dogs go out of gedo.
 

Calaf

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IF a parallel election is held, it's too late for the IC and you can expect a full blown out war in xamar at that point since you'd have farmaajo vs a hawiye "president" in the same city.

Farmaajo is in office today and will be in office tomorrow, but how long can he ben office?
if PL and JL go home, that's the end of a consensus based solution which means your adeer has two options.
1. squat there by force and try and karbaash anyone who opposes him.
2. hold an election with his loyal dogs aka the gareen family and elect himself.

Either one of these would face a massive backlash from hawiyes because if Pl and Jl go home, farmaajo is only president for them, and the only thing worse than that would be if he crowns himself in front of them again.
The playing field is so bad, that the people allowed this to occur. If Hawiyes wanted to kick Farmajo out, from their own city, they would have done so easily. When your main opposition is another "Darood" man and a bunch of hasbeens, that tell you a lot about the inhabitants. The army he is using is Hawiye, the supporters with power is hawyie, and the PM is hawiye in a city with a Hawiye Mayor. Without their support, he wouldn't have been there.

If a parallel election is held, there wouldn't be a civil war, Mahdi AUN is dead, Inacade is doing a Gaadafi and is MIA, and the Madasha are strapped for money, there is a reason they are doing around the world tour looking for donors. Heck, they are a group of people ALL running for election, not under the guidance of 1 like Farmajo and NN. There is a reason why Deni and Madoobe are the frontier of the newly group of NSC. A parallel process, in fact, it would have nailed the final nail into the coffin for the opposition.

Jubbaland and Puntland isn't going nowhere, something will be signed. And as long as the playing field is this corrupt, anything is possible. The people don't want a repeat of 91, and minus online talk, Farmajo has the PR more then the NSC.
 

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Let us hope all our leaders show up so that we can move on to the next step, I am hoping president Deni and Ahmed will come to the meeting and everything will be solved :)
 

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Breaking they have finally arrived! Alhamdullilah hopefully they agree on something

 

Jiron

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Good news, time to move forward from this time wasting

They must all know that they are working for us and not themselves. We do not want any further division. I hope they agree on the upcoming election soon. :)
 

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