Ermm actually they were Bantu-Ethio Semitic-Persian-Arabs, ChudPretty much describes the same land areas that the Greco-Romans talked about. Inter-connected city states stretching from North - South inhabited by the same peoples.
Ermm actually they were Bantu-Ethio Semitic-Persian-Arabs, Chud
The translation most likely isn't literal, they are "black" (dark) from the point of observation/lens of the Persian who wrote this but that Persian would still distinguish them from niger-congoids. These achievements/discoveries should be given only to ethnic Somalis, that's the whole point of finding these sources, to disprove all this misinformation about Somali history & to stop foreigners from psyoping+claiming it for the past thousands years lolMore proof that Somalis are black lol
Somalis also called Black Moors or Black Berbers
All it said was Land of Blacks from Africa to Dark Skin Dravidian IndiaThe translation most likely isn't literal, they are "black" (dark) from the point of observation/lens of the Persian who wrote this but that Persian would still distinguish them from niger-congoids. These achievements/discoveries should be given only to ethnic Somalis, that's the whole point of finding these sources, to disprove all this misinformation about Somali history & to stop foreigners from psyoping+claiming it for the past thousands years lol
Beside this tiresome argument;
Race =/= skin color
Did you read it says indias are also blackMore proof that Somalis are black lol
Somalis also called Black Moors or Black Berbers
The fact that they said Berbers should discount anything else. If they explicitly said those Black people of the whole continent were the same, then that would be something else.The translation most likely isn't literal, they are "black" (dark) from the point of observation/lens of the Persian who wrote this but that Persian would still distinguish them from niger-congoids. These achievements/discoveries should be given only to ethnic Somalis, that's the whole point of finding these sources, to disprove all this misinformation about Somali history & to stop foreigners from psyoping+claiming it for the past thousands years lol
Beside this tiresome argument;
Race =/= skin color
This agrees with the archeology that shows that Somalis had high purchasing power and the population was pretty large:There was a lot of trade between various dynasts in modern day iran and the somail coast, we've been able to find archaeological evidence of this, what we really need now is writing accounts of these trades. I recall something interesting i once read in regards trade relations between the somali coast and persians. In iran there is an inscription called the paikuli inscription writing in the early 4th century ad by the sasanian king shah narseh. It contain an account of a king in what seems to be northern or eastern somali coast.
Here you can see an ever increasing interest in trade with the african coast. Later on ferdowsi in his book shahnameh a book about the history of persia that contain information from older persian literature mention the land of barbars. I'm sure there must be more such accounts but i can't read farsi which makes it more tricky to get our hands on some of these info.
Now that you've mentioned this i seem to recall what these very same persians told the chinese merchants about the northern somali coast. Their account alien with your theory of a rich, powerful and prosperous region.This agrees with the archeology that shows that Somalis had high purchasing power and the population was pretty large:
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It describes the geography of the northern Somali coast:
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Desert, mountain, and sea. It's like my backyard.
Take note of how the Somalis are described as formidable and notably more wealthy than the rest since the crown is mentioned, only used for symbolic expression.
Now that you've mentioned this i seem to recall what these very same persians told the chinese merchants about the northern somali coast. Their account alien with your theory of a rich, powerful and prosperous region.
We might be looking at a dark age period on the northern somali coast.
When was thisNow that you've mentioned this i seem to recall what these very same persians told the chinese merchants about the northern somali coast. Their account alien with your theory of a rich, powerful and prosperous region.
We might be looking at a dark age period on the northern somali coast.
More of your coping, don't you ever get tired of being disingenuous & wrong?The term berbers itself is ambiguous and inconclusive. We don't know for certain who exactly it refers to all the time. The word Berber is not a synonym for Somali. There is not a single mention of Persians trading with Somalis in that text. Somalis really need to study the origins of the word berber.
The term berbers itself is ambiguous and inconclusive. We don't know for certain who exactly it refers to all the time. The word Berber is not a synonym for Somali. There is not a single mention of Persians trading with Somalis in that text. Somalis really need to study the origins of the word berber.
A couple of interesting things I would like to point out that caught my eye in the ShahnamehThere was a lot of trade between various dynasts in modern day iran and the somail coast, we've been able to find archaeological evidence of this, what we really need now is writing accounts of these trades. I recall something interesting i once read in regards trade relations between the somali coast and persians. In iran there is an inscription called the paikuli inscription writing in the early 4th century ad by the sasanian king shah narseh. It contain an account of a king in what seems to be northern or eastern somali coast.
Here you can see an ever increasing interest in trade with the african coast. Later on ferdowsi in his book shahnameh a book about the history of persia that contain information from older persian literature mention the land of barbars. I'm sure there must be more such accounts but i can't read farsi which makes it more tricky to get our hands on some of these info.
The Chinese also talked about Somalia being an independent country with over 200,000 soldiersA couple of interesting things I would like to point out that caught my eye in the Shahnameh
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The war between Persia and Barbar (Somalia), Hamavaran (Yemen) and Misr (Egypt) was a navy battle at sea and they intriguingly referred to Barbar as a “state” it also talks about Barbar’s “monarch” so it’s likely that the city-states were once united under one kingdom with a common king.View attachment 323735
It also talks about how the Berbers used war elephants in their wars, it seems in Northeast Africa there was a common tradition to use war elephants in battle as shown by the Axumites and their wars in Arabia or Nubia and its successor states using them in many battles.
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However the most fascinating part of what I found is that this war happened around October to April, which is exactly the same time that the Berbera annual fair which gathered all of the merchants and caravans of the Somali peninsula to Berbera along with Arab and Indian traders for trade, which seems to be a common tradition in the north for over a millennia. @Garaad diinle, @Khaemwaset, @Three Moons, @The alchemist, @Shimbiris @Midas, @Idilinaa
Berbera’s Annual Fair
One certainty about Berbera over the many centuries was that it was the site of an annual fair, held between October and April, which Mordechai Abir describes as "among the most important commercial events of the east coast of Africa."[21]The major Somali sub-clans of the Isaaq in Somaliland...www.somalispot.com