spoiler alert: the people who go around calling Salafis "Madkhalis" have zero actual scholars who are with them.
Calling people "Jaamiyoon" and "Madaakhila"- Shaykh Fawzaan
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spoiler alert: the people who go around calling Salafis "Madkhalis" have zero actual scholars who are with them.
Because Of This They Hate Shaykh Rabee ibn Hadi al-Madkhali
The People of Innovation Say: Salafiyyah Madkhaliyyah | Shaykh Muhammad ibn Sa’eed Raslan
Those That Label The Salafis As Jaamiyyah or Madkhalis Are Waging A War Against The Salafi Manhaj
@AMusee come post your twitter stuff if you like. if people want "anti-Madkhali" content, they can read your twitter reposts and videos from DH, Muhammad Hijab and Yasir Qadhi (btw it's interesting that Yasir Qadhi is on the same side as you people).
meanwhile the actual scholars are for Sheikh Rabee Madkhali. Sheikh Ibn Baz, Sheikh Uthaymeen, Sheikh Albaani, all have supported him. we have the scholars with us and meanwhile you people slandering the sheikh have no actual scholars, just posting social media nobodies.
meanwhile the actual scholars are for Sheikh Rabee Madkhali. Sheikh Ibn Baz, Sheikh Uthaymeen, Sheikh Albaani, all have supported him. we have the scholars with us and meanwhile you people slandering the sheikh have no actual scholars, just posting social media nobodies.
Madkhalis are a bunch of rotten group who were used by saudi govt to propagate division and witch hunting not only amongst muslims but the salafiya sect.
You have the ignorant Abu khafija with no scholary background who has been character assasinating dais who have been spearheading dawah.
You have the ignorant Abu khafija with no scholary background who has been character assasinating dais who have been spearheading dawah.
Muhammad Saeed Raslan:
"I saw President El-Sisi, may God protect him, frolic in the gardens of Paradise, and he had a stature that the righteous and the martyrs would envy."
can anyone actually show the fatwa from Sheikh Rabee Al-Madkhali endorsing Haftar???? I don't think he ever actually gave any fatwa in support of Haftar. you can't just go around spreading unverified rumors about a Sheikh.
also btw I don't even know who these youtubers are.... the people on my side of the dispute have the backing of a long list of scholars.... whereas with the other side, it's all a bunch of twitter accounts and youtubers- some youtube celebrites like MH and DH and apparently a bunch of accounts where I have no idea who these people are
btw
"Muhammad Saeed Raslan:
"I saw President El-Sisi, may God protect him, frolic in the gardens of Paradise, and he had a stature that the righteous and the martyrs would envy.""
where is the proof that he said this?
This is all about the rebelling of a ruler so I will provide evidence.
Judging or ruling according to other than what Allaah has revealed is contrary to faith and Tawheed, which are Allaah’s rights. It may be counted as kufr akbar (greater kufr) or kufr asghar (lesser kufr) according to circumstances. Kufr akbar will make a person no longer a Muslim in cases such as the following:
- If he issues laws and regulations other than those revealed by Allaah, because the right to issue laws belongs to Allaah alone, Who has no partner, and whoever “competes” with Him in a matter which is His alone is a mushrik, because Allaah says: “Or have they partners with Allaah (false gods), who have instituted for them a religion which Allaah has not allowed?” [al-Shooraa 42:21]
- If the one who rules by other than that which Allaah has revealed denies the right of Allaah and His Prophet to rule, as is mentioned in Ibn ‘Abbaas’s comment on the aayah:“. . . And whoever does not judge by what Allaah has revealed, such are the kaafiroon.” [al-Maa’idah 5:44]. Ibn ‘Abbaas said: “Whoever rejects what Allaah has revealed is a kaafir.”
- If he prefers the rule of falsehood to the rule of Allaah, whether this is in absolute terms or just in a few matters. Allaah says: “Do they then seek the judgement of (the Days of) Ignorance? And who is better in judgement than Allaah for a people who have firm Faith?” [al-Maa’idah 5:50]
- If he regards the rule of Allaah and the rule of falsehood as equal. Allaah says: “. . . Then do not set up rivals unto Allaah (in worship) while you know (that He Alone has the right to be worshipped).” [al-Baqarah 2:22]
- If he thinks that it is permissible to rule by something that contradicts the rule of Allaah and His Messenger, or he believes that it is not obligatory to rule according to what Allaah has revealed, or that the matter is optional. This is kufr which is contradictory to faith. Allaah revealed: “O Messenger! Let not those who hurry to fall into disbelief grieve you, of such who say: ‘We believe’ with their mouths but their hearts have no faith. And of the Jews are men who listen much and eagerly to lies - listen to others who have not come to you; they say, ‘If you are given this, take it, but if you are not given this, then beware!’ . . .” [al-Maa’idah 5:41]. He says: “Go to Muhammad (peace be upon him), and if he tells you that the ruling is lashes, accept it, but if he commands stoning, ignore what he says. Then Allaah revealed “. . . And whoever does not judge by what Allaah has revealed, such are the kaafiroon (disbelievers)” [al-Maa’idah 5:44].
- If he does not rule according to what Allah has revealed out of stubbornness and arrogance, he is a kaafir and has left Islaam, even if he does not deny the rule of Allaah. Stubbornness and arrogance may mean negligence and turning away, as Allaah says: “Have you seen those (hypocrites) who claim that they believe in that which has been sent down to you, and that which was sent down before you, and they wish to go for judgement (in their disputes) to the Taaghoot (false judges, etc.) while they have been ordered to reject them. But Shaytaan wishes to lead them astray. And when it is said to them: ‘Come to what Allaah has sent down and to the Messenger,’ see they hypocrites turn away from you (Muhammad) with aversion.” [al-Nisaa’ 4:60-61]
- Among the things that may be counted as ruling by other than that which Allaah revealed and kufr akbar is what Shaykh Muhammad ibn Ibraaheem said about man-made laws and ruling by them: “This is the worst, the most obvious and comprehensive opposition to sharee‘ah and rejection of Allaah’s laws. This is competing with Allaah and His Messenger, contradicting His laws in their preparation, support, structure, ruling and references.
are you trying to say it's kufr akbar in every case?
why don't you keep going and not list only the kufr akbar instances
these are the things that are kufr akbar for a ruler
As regards the question of when ruling by other than what Allaah revealed is kufr asghar, which does not exclude a person from the ummah of Islam:
the answer is that this may be the case when a ruler or judge passes judgement according to other than what Allaah revealed out of disobedience or on a whim, or as a favour to someone, or because he was bribed, and so on, although he believes that it is obligatory to judge according to what Allaah has revealed, and that what he has done is a sinful and haraam deed.
As regards the one who is governed by a non-Islamic law, if he refers to it out of choice, then he is a kaafir whose kufr akbar means that he has left Islaam. But if he has no choice but to refer to this law, and does so reluctantly, then he is not a kaafir, because if he had been able to resort to sharee‘ah, he would have done so, and he believes that this non-Islamic law is false.
And Allaah knows best. May Allaah bless our Prophet Muhammad.
the answer is that this may be the case when a ruler or judge passes judgement according to other than what Allaah revealed out of disobedience or on a whim, or as a favour to someone, or because he was bribed, and so on, although he believes that it is obligatory to judge according to what Allaah has revealed, and that what he has done is a sinful and haraam deed.
As regards the one who is governed by a non-Islamic law, if he refers to it out of choice, then he is a kaafir whose kufr akbar means that he has left Islaam. But if he has no choice but to refer to this law, and does so reluctantly, then he is not a kaafir, because if he had been able to resort to sharee‘ah, he would have done so, and he believes that this non-Islamic law is false.
And Allaah knows best. May Allaah bless our Prophet Muhammad.
