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Assyrian empire
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It was mostly because the center of Arabia was very difficult to traverse for those not accustomed to the Badu desert lifestyle but once you went deep enough there was a wide network of villages and towns and even large, cultivated oases dotted across even the harsh Najd like the old Axhsa Oasis.
Also, it's not accurate to say there was no interest in "Arabia". Many of these empires, the Romans included, conquered Nabataea which was very much a part of Arabia culturally, linguistically and historically and in fact, somewhat arguably within the original zone Proto-Arabic or its ancestor expanded from into the Peninsula:
Arabia Petraea - Wikipedia
And to this day many of the inhabitants of southern Palestine like the Naqab/Negev Bedouins are mostly "pure" Peninsular Arabs genetically such as the Bedouin_B population found in genetic studies. This was a frequently secured and productive region that also produced a Roman Emperor:
Philip the Arab - Wikipedia
In conjunction with this, Southwestern Arabia (Yemen) was always seen as very desirable, productive and "civilized" land and referred to as "Arabia Felix" ("The Fertile/Happy Arabia"):
Arabia Felix - Wikipedia
Mediterranean & Middle-Eastern Empires did in fact try to and succeed at conquering it such as with the failed Roman attempt and successful Sassanian attempt after wrestling a chunk of it from the Xabashis. Not to mention how important the Hejaz became after Islam. Even Eastern Arabia aroused some interest, mostly from the Iranians. It was mostly the Najd that was usually ignored and mostly because if you were not accustomed to the desert nomadic way of life it was basically suicide to try and take an army in there and best the Arabs and, admittedly, compared to lands like the Fertile Crescent, not remotely worth all that hardship.
Assyrians fell victim to Arabization. That's tuff 
The Axumites reached Asir, southern Saudi Arabia, in particular, at some point. I even heard that Abraha reached Najd in the middle of the islandIt was mostly because the center of Arabia was very difficult to traverse for those not accustomed to the Badu desert lifestyle but once you went deep enough there was a wide network of villages and towns and even large, cultivated oases dotted across even the harsh Najd like the old Axhsa Oasis.
Also, it's not accurate to say there was no interest in "Arabia". Many of these empires, the Romans included, conquered Nabataea which was very much a part of Arabia culturally, linguistically and historically and in fact, somewhat arguably within the original zone Proto-Arabic or its ancestor expanded from into the Peninsula:
Arabia Petraea - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
And to this day many of the inhabitants of southern Palestine like the Naqab/Negev Bedouins are mostly "pure" Peninsular Arabs genetically such as the Bedouin_B population found in genetic studies. This was a frequently secured and productive region that also produced a Roman Emperor:
Philip the Arab - Wikipedia
In conjunction with this, Southwestern Arabia (Yemen) was always seen as very desirable, productive and "civilized" land and referred to as "Arabia Felix" ("The Fertile/Happy Arabia"):
Arabia Felix - Wikipedia
Mediterranean & Middle-Eastern Empires did in fact try to and succeed at conquering it such as with the failed Roman attempt and successful Sassanian attempt after wrestling a chunk of it from the Xabashis. Not to mention how important the Hejaz became after Islam. Even Eastern Arabia aroused some interest, mostly from the Iranians. It was mostly the Najd that was usually ignored and mostly because if you were not accustomed to the desert nomadic way of life it was basically suicide to try and take an army in there and best the Arabs and, admittedly, compared to lands like the Fertile Crescent, not remotely worth all that hardship.
If you watch the video you'll admire the Assyrians but at same time you're not going to be sympathetic towards them. They were massacring people from other kingdoms for fun it's ironic that now they have been displaced all over the world and getting bullied by Arabs, Turks and Kurds.Assyrians fell victim to Arabization. That's tuff
I thought Kurds were miskeens. They're getting their licks in as well?
Lol their bullies themselves. I've seen Assyrians complaining about Kurds taking over their lands.I thought Kurds were miskeens. They're getting their licks in as well?
Nah Assyrians need to pack it up and give up their whole identity and assimilate with the sandniggers. How do you get punked by the Kurds who they themselves get bullied on all four frontsLol their bullies themselves. I've seen Assyrians complaining about Kurds taking over their lands.
The US invasion of Iraq and I$I$ are to be blamed. They were living in an area called the Assyrian triangle but due to violence they were displaced from their lands Kurds took the advantage to gain more land by forcefully taking it.Nah Assyrians need to pack it up and give up their whole identity and assimilate with the sandniggers. How do you get punked by the Kurds who they themselves get bullied on all four fronts
They would have assimilated if they were not Christian religion plays a factor.
But sxb there's Arab Christians in Lebanon,Syria and Iraq. I think it's more of them losing their language/culture over religion.
You have a point. They probably have big pride for their history. There's a Wikipedia article about Assyrian nationalism.
Assyrian nationalism - Wikipedia
When the British and French was carving out borders for the Middle East from thin air, they did their Christian brothers dirtyYou have a point. They probably have big pride for their history. There's a Wikipedia article about Assyrian nationalism.
Assyrian nationalism - Wikipedia
en.m.wikipedia.org
Greater Assyria would have been a regional superpower
Feel bad for them. They lost half of their population during WW1 for independence just to be discarded in the end.When the British and French was carving out borders for the Middle East from thin air, they did their Christian brothers dirty
Greater Assyria would have been a regional superpower
No, they were long gone before Arabs stepped in. The area was controlled by Persians then Romans (Greek). The areas western of Tigris (Syria, Lebanon, Turkey, Egypt, Palestine) were Greek speaking world as lingua Franca. Arabs took Greek and Persian ruling areas and then made them theirs.Assyrians fell victim to Arabization. That's tuff
almost like theres a huge natural border(the desert) stopping them from trying to take over.
the reason they did go for egypt was probably due to the nile river, very ludicrous and fertile land.
remember also, back then, journeys and expeditions took way longer. trying to invade a desert like that is about as stupid as hitler attacking russia during winter
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Not only that, there were vibrant lucrative trade interests since the Neolithic with Eastern Arabia to Southern Arabia from Mesopotamia sometimes trecking from Anatolia and between the Red Sea access states on the Western front. It did not make sense to "conquer" Arabia since its good part would have been lost in the process. The economy flowed through the indigenous streams of pre-existing complex synergy. That lifestyle was a cultural and traditional mark of the endemic groups, mixing complementary lifestyles in the varied landscapes. Why invade to destroy that to gain nothing in the end? The Fertile Crescent had a continuous geography which was the reason there was a very high mobility since the Neolithic. Arabia was a different beast.It was mostly because the center of Arabia was very difficult to traverse for those not accustomed to the Badu desert lifestyle but once you went deep enough there was a wide network of villages and towns and even large, cultivated oases dotted across even the harsh Najd like the old Axhsa Oasis.
Also, it's not accurate to say there was no interest in "Arabia". Many of these empires, the Romans included, conquered Nabataea which was very much a part of Arabia culturally, linguistically and historically and in fact, somewhat arguably within the original zone Proto-Arabic or its ancestor expanded from into the Peninsula:
Arabia Petraea - Wikipedia
And to this day many of the inhabitants of southern Palestine like the Naqab/Negev Bedouins are mostly "pure" Peninsular Arabs genetically such as the Bedouin_B population found in genetic studies. This was a frequently secured and productive region that also produced a Roman Emperor:
Philip the Arab - Wikipedia
In conjunction with this, Southwestern Arabia (Yemen) was always seen as very desirable, productive and "civilized" land and referred to as "Arabia Felix" ("The Fertile/Happy Arabia"):
Arabia Felix - Wikipedia
Mediterranean & Middle-Eastern Empires did in fact try to and succeed at conquering it such as with the failed Roman attempt and successful Sassanian attempt after wrestling a chunk of it from the Xabashis. Not to mention how important the Hejaz became after Islam. Even Eastern Arabia aroused some interest, mostly from the Iranians. It was mostly the Najd that was usually ignored and mostly because if you were not accustomed to the desert nomadic way of life it was basically suicide to try and take an army in there and best the Arabs and, admittedly, compared to lands like the Fertile Crescent, not remotely worth all that hardship.
I don't think there would be any Sumer without Arabia:
Globalising Interactions in the Arabian Neolithic and the ‘Ubaid (Two) - Globalization in Prehistory
Globalization in Prehistory - October 2018
"Excavations at H3, Kuwait, throw important new light on the economy of the Arabian Neolithic, the early history of seafaring and boat-building, and relations with Ubaid Mesopotamia. It is now clear that the inhabitants of the eastern seaboard of the Arabian Peninsula were active players in a complex network that linked Mesopotamia, the northern and southern Gulf and perhaps Iran during the 6th and 5th millennia BC. Excavations at H3, Kuwait, throw important new light on the economy of the Arabian Neolithic, the early history of seafaring and boat-building, and relations with Ubaid Mesopotamia. It is now clear that the inhabitants of the eastern seaboard of the Arabian Peninsula were active players in a complex network that linked Mesopotamia, the northern and southern Gulf and perhaps Iran during the 6th and 5th millennia BC."
The source highlights a very early seafaring globalization in the region that placed neolithic Arabia as a major player, not peripheral.
Having stated so in the past, I think significant DNA of the early Sumerians traced from Arabia. Sumerians had an Arabian origin myth. Factoring their self-ascribed ancestral lore to the geographic origins of their civilization, rooted in the southern marshlands off the coast from what leads directly to the gulf, making Arabia accessible, strengthens this hypothesis. Not only that, the Mesopotamians directly referred to eastern Arabia as the source of their origin:
Yeah according to inscriptions they seem to have conquered most of Arabia although there may be doubt in that.
I found this online lmao but I figured it was just military expeditions and not actual territory they ruled over. Thoughts @Shimbiris
Axum were an absolute monster, and I envy them for that. They have subjugated so many Arab tribes that the Khaljis now prey on the Yemenis by calling them “Abyssinians,” and the Yemenis themselves are trying to attribute Abraha to Sabah.Yeah according to inscriptions they seem to have conquered most of Arabia although there may be doubt in that.
I found this online lmao but I figured it was just military expeditions and not actual territory they ruled over. Thoughts @Shimbiris
Even the Persian prophet Mani called them one of the major powers of the world. Makes me wonder why the following Zagwe and Solomonids were so weak by comparison lol
