Yusuf and Ahmad

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https://books.google.com/books?id=fb4UYAPUhYoC&pg=PA59&lpg=PA59&dq=The+Geledi+and+the+Omani+Sultanate+of+Zanzibar?&source=bl&ots=DgkGDEGn2S&sig=CoUZXccJY8N2aMzK_8EE0P-cCfQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi49cTCmNvaAhUnj1QKHez-BYoQ6AEIczAK#v=onepage&q=The Geledi and the Omani Sultanate of Zanzibar?&f=false


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"By the time of the Baardheere troubles, the Geledi in Afgoye were enjoying unprecedented prosperity and influence. The power of the sultans continued to expand via local conquests and alliances. In addition, they had also begun to dominate local trade networks, enabling them to force all caravans bound for the interior to pass through their own markets where they could be taxed. With their victory over Baardheere, the Geledi seemed poised to dominate all of southern Somalia. Geledi expansion was blocked, however, by both local rivals and their own lack of direct access to the sea. From the mid-1840s through the 1870s Sultan Yusuf Muhammad and his successors sought to use the political and military capital accrued as a result of the conflict with Baardheere to secure their expansionist agenda. The result instead was tension, political intrigue and-eventually-armed conflict.



Immediately following the Baardheere war, Yusuf Muhammad hoped to establish a Geledi controlled port at the point where the Shabelli was closest to the coast known as Mungiya south of Marka. The Geledi already controlled most of the riverine agricultural settlements that far south and the establishment of a port would enable them to export grain directly to overseas buyers without the expense of going through urban middlemen in Mogadishu or Marka.



Not surprisingly, this move evoked almost immediate resistance from agro-pastoral competitors as well as coastal merchants, both of whom saw their interests threatened by Geledi ambition. The result was a long war of attrition between the G eledi and their principal rivals the Bimal, a clan of pastoral entrepreneurs from the region surrounding Marka. The latter were supported by urban merchant communities from the length and breadth of the coast. Throughout the 1840s, the two sides fought a number of indecisive engagements ultimately ending in stalemate by the latter years of the decade.



By 1847, the upper hand seemed to lay with the Geledi. Hoping to consolidate his gains Sultan Yusuf decided to eliminate the Bimal threat once and for all by forcing what he hoped would be a final decisive battle. In May, 1848 he forced the Bimal into a major engagement at the village of Golwayn. The details of the battle are sketchy, however; what is known is that shortly after the fighting began, both Sultan Yusuf and his brother Musa lay dead and their forces were routed. With one blow, Geledi expansion toward the coast was ended.



While Sultan Yusuf's death ended Geledi ambitions to dominate the coast, it did not end their control over territories in the interior. Yusuf was succeeded by two of his sons, Ahmad and Abiker. Ahmad made his seat at Afgoye, the traditional center of power for the Gobroon. Abiker became Sultan of Buulo Merer, a village downstream from Afgoye and opposite Bimal territory at the extreme limit of what had become the Geledi sphere of influence. This move was apparently intended at enabling the Gobroon to maintain tight control over the furthest reaches of their territory in the face of continued Bimal belligerence.



In addition to sustaining their territorial integrity, the Gobroon were also able to maintain much of their political influence in the urban centers of the coast, especially in Mogadishu, although it seems to have been more due to their economic power than military strength. The most celebrated example of their continued influence centers on the construction of a Zanzibari fortress in ;the Shangani district of the town. The Omani sultans of Zanzibar had laid nominal claim to the Benaadir coast since the early 1800s, Around 1870, the Zanzibari sultan, Sayyid Barghash, decided to make this claim a reality by establishing garrisons in each of the major towns for the purpose of assessing customs duty. The elders of Shangani, however, resisted the idea and the Sultan lacking either the military might or the economic means to force compliance looked to the Geledi Sultan, Ahmad, for help. Eager to demonstrate his power over the townsmen, Sultan Ahmad readily agreed, and threatened to order his allies along the river to boycott the Shangani market if the elders continued to obstruct Zanzibari plans. Faced with the complete disruption of the local grain trade, the elders realized the fitility f their position and ended their resistance. The garesa was built.



As it turned out, this was to be the apex of Geledi influence. In the decades following Golwayn, a pattern of indecisive raids and counter-raids characterized relations between the Geledi and their Bimal rivals. In 1878 this pattern culminated in what would turn out to be the last major encounter between the two clans. In that year, Sultan Ahmad, like his father, decided to end the Bimal threat through a single decisive battle. He and his brother Abiker, mustered their forces and moved to meet the enemy near Marka at a village known as Agareen. Like their father's last battle thirty yeaers before, the engagement turned into a rout, with the Bimal once again victorious at the end of the day. In a final ironic twist of fate, both ahmad and Abiker were killed in an uncanny replay of the deaths of their own father and uncle. With the battle of Agareen, Gobroon dominance was at an end.".
 
For comparison, this is the Wiki that Dude has been using:

https://everipedia.org/wiki/Sultanate_of_the_Geledi/

Sultanate of the Geledi

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The Sultanate of the Geledi (Somali: Saldanadda Geledi, Arabic: سلطنة غلدي‎‎) was a Somali kingdom that ruled parts of the Horn of Africa during the late-17th century and 19th century. The Sultanate was governed by the Gobroon Dynasty. It was established by the Geledi soldier Ibrahim Adeer, who had defeated various vassals of the Ajuran Sultanate and founded the House of Gobroon. The dynasty reached its apex under the successive reigns of SultanYusuf Mahamud Ibrahim, who successfully consolidated Geledi power during the Bardera wars in 1843,[2] and Sultan Ahmed Yusuf, who forced regional powers such as the Omani Empire to submit tribute. The sultanate was eventually incorporated into Italian Somaliland in 1908, and ended with the death of Osman Ahmed in 1910.

Origins
At the end of the 17th century, the Ajuran Sultanate was on its decline, and various vassals were now breaking free or being absorbed by new Somali powers. One of these powers was the Silcis Sultanate, which began consolidating its rule over the Afgooye region. Ibrahim Adeer led the revolt against the Silcis ruler Umar Abrone and his oppressive daughter, Princess Fay. After his victory over the Silcis, Ibrahim then proclaimed himself Sultan and subsequently started the Gobroon Dynasty.

Ibrahim and the other Gobroon nobles were descended from Omar Dine, an early Muslim leader who had arrived with four of his brothers from the Arabian peninsula. Among this group of siblings, all of whom were Islamic clerics, was Fakr ad-Din, the first Sultan of the Mogadishu Sultanate (fl. 13th century). The other two brothers are referred to variously as Shamse Dine (Shams-ad-diin), Imudi Dine, Alahi Dine and Ahmed Dine. Omar Dine is said have taken residence in Harar. Some traditions also associate him with that city-state's sixteenth century Sultan, Umar Din.

Military
The Geledi army numbered 20,000 men in times of peace, and could be raised to 50,000 troops in times of war. The supreme commanders of the army were the Sultan and his brother, who in turn had Malaakhs and Garadsunder them. The military was supplied with rifles and cannons by Somali traders of the coastal regions that controlled the East African arms trade.

Rulers
Rulers of the Sultanate of the Geledi:

# Sultan Reign Notes
1 Ibrahim Adeer late 17th century–mid 18th century Established the Geledi sultanate in the late 17th century. First ruler in the Gobroon Dynasty.
2 Mahamud Ibrahim mid-18th-1828 Inherited throne from father. Bequeathed it to son.
3 Yusuf Mahamud Ibrahim 1828–1848 Rule marked the start of the golden age of the Geledis.
4 Ahmed Yusuf 1848–1878 Exacted tribute from the Omanis south of Lamu. Regularly extended support to East African sultanates fighting the Zanzibaris.
5 Osman Ahmed 1878-1910 Inherited throne from father. Reign marked the beginning of the decline of the Geledi sultanate.

Here are the total references:1
 
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I hope everyone noticed the Wiki can be "edited" right from the page, and that, because there are no referents to either Wiki or the dictionary links that are given, there are no references.

On the other hand, the academic article is from the 9th volume of Islam in Africa, for which the author also wrote the second volume, The Transmission of Learning in Islamic Africa, all published on behalf of the Oxford Centre for Islamic Studies. The work is heavily footnoted to Luling, Revoil, Christopher and Casanelli, just in this section. The work itself is already considered a standard.


https://academic.oup.com/jis/article-abstract/21/2/304/664747?redirectedFrom=fulltext
Renewers of the Age: Holy Men and Social Discourse in Colonial Benaadir
By SCOTT REESE

An easily accessible link is in the Op.

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Those who read will have noticed that the last Sultan of Geledi, Ahmad's son, Osman, died in 1910 and the sultanate was disestablished, subsumed under the Italian administration, so the date for that map is just wacko. Also, the furthest south and east the Geledi ever got was Buulo Merer, on the west bank of the Shabelli, just south of Marka. Prior to the Baardheere troubles, the Yaquub Abgaal controlled Mog, the Hiraab the Mog hinterland, the Bimal the area around Marka, the Tunni the area around Baraawe, and the Bardheere Jamaaca increasingly after 1819 the area between the rivers, culminating in 1840 with the complete domination of the area and the burning of Baraawe. After 1843 Yusuf lost the support of the Hintire, Jiddu, Begedi and some of the Reewin clans. His death in 1848 ended the Geledi push to the coast, and Ahmad's death in 1878 put an end to the Geledi as a power in the South.

The Geledi never got a port, never had ships, and never had a foreign "trade empire" of any sort. Yusuf did not get to Lamu or Zanzibar, did not defeat the Zanzibari sultan and did not receive tribute from him. That is all the delusion of those who think they can change history by "editing" Wiki.

But notice this little gem in his article:

"Ibrahim and the other Gobroon nobles were descended from Omar Dine, an early Muslimleader who had arrived with four of his brothers from the Arabian peninsula. Among this group of siblings, all of whom were Islamic clerics, was Fakr ad-Din, the first Sultan of the Mogadishu Sultanate (fl. 13th century). The other two brothers are referred to variously as Shamse Dine (Shams-ad-diin), Imudi Dine, Alahi Dine and Ahmed Dine. Omar Dine is said have taken residence in Harar. Some traditions also associate him with that city-state's sixteenth century Sultan, Umar Din.":mjpls:

How did he miss that?
 

Falsy's fiasco began when he posted this as if it were a quotation from Virginia Luling:

"Through his military dominance, Sultan Yusuf managed to exact tribute from the Omani king in the coastal town of Lamu and regularly extended his support to East African sultanates fighting the Zanzibaris."


I knew enough to doubt it was possible and checked, finally finding an index of Luling's work that did not include it and returned no result for a search for Yusuf of Geledi at Lamu.

https://books.google.com/books?id=s...q=9781874209980&source=gbs_word_cloud_r&cad=6

The next time he posted it, he attributed it to Sudan Notes and Records, which is a periodical with issues from 1918 through 1974. It is necessary to know the year, so I asked:

https://www.somalispot.com/threads/...yone-have-more-information-on-it.45990/page-2

"What year? It's not in the 1970s. Also, Searching all issues for "Yusuf of Geledi in Lamu" produces no result.

https://www.jstor.org/journal/sudanotereco?loggedin=true

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Last time you attributed this to Luling, but I checked and it's not in her index."

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Grant, Jul 19, 2018Report
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Some distraction, followed by my demand for a source, followed by his abandonment of the thread and my pursuit through several repetitive threads for a genuine source.

"My link is to the Sudan Notes and Records that you last claimed was the source of this quote. I will accept a link to whatever source you are now claiming. Is it Sudan or Luling or just something you conveniently found on your notepad?"

Grant, Jul 19, 2018Report
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We now know the true source of this "quotation" was Falsy himself, or some other "Somali patriot" writing on Wiki. Like much else that he claims, it has no basis in fact.
 
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