Your solution to African Dictators

[Nilotic]

Here are just a handful of small documentaries on the mental illnesses of African dictators and their blood-chilling crimes:














..So what political infrastructure would you construct to prevent dictators from continuing to assume power in our sad, battered and miserable continent?

 

[El Nino]

Leaders are a reflection of their people, cultural change is needed the most. If people would care how their country was like it, that would reflect upon their leaders.

 

[Nilotic]

Mandatory and automatic mental health evaluations (like TriPM) should be pre-requisites for entering the political environment; and they should screen out psychopaths, sociopaths, malignant narcissists and kleptomaniacs.

We shouldn't have Executive candidates elected by the general public; we desperately need a stringent political system.

Administrative and representative roles should be separated.

African Nations should replace Governors and National Presidents with Executive Councils composed of 7 people at all levels of Government.

In order to serve as an administrator for any Executive Council at the local, State or Federal level, a degree in constitutional law, economics, public affairs or political science would be a requirement; a Masters degree from our own equivalent of the National School of Administration, like the École nationale d'administration in France would also be required.

This system would then require a minimum of 5 years of stellar experience in the civil service; after this, the parliament or the Senate could then elect the President of the Executive Council and 6 other Council members.

Each of the 7 members of the Executive Council would head and run a department such as health or education; and this Council would serve for 7 years. Individuals that want to serve on the State Executive Council will need to have served at the city Council level with stellar reports in their administrative post; and grade A State service would be a pre-requisite for Federal service.

All of these grueling steps would permit us to know (intimately) exactly who we're dealing with and their report cards would allow us to make the right decision.

The militaries should be divided into at least 4 branches and there should be more than one ground fighting force in order to remove the prospects of military coups, and each branch should be headed by a civilian.

 

[Nilotic]

Leaders are a reflection of their people, cultural change is needed the most. If people would care how their country was like it, that would reflect upon their leaders.

This mirrors exactly what I said last year in the post below:

A people’s government is more often than not a reflection of their society.

A Nation's elite don’t just drop out of the sky or manifest themselves from another dimension — they are us… even if they are a little more corrupt or a little bit more murderous.

The zealots and dictators you're attempting to put the complete blame on... came from your socio-cultural environment; your households; your schools; and your institutions.

Our leaders are mostly representative of our societies; your attempt to deflect and to absolve yourself of any and all responsibility is laughably childish.

 

[Aurelian]

Leaders are a reflection of their people, cultural change is needed the most. If people would care how their country was like it, that would reflect upon their leaders.

NOPE, and big NOPE, look at Congo, where a patriotic democracy was elected immidietly Belgium and western state killed and overthrow him, and installed a militry general, no one could do anything cause average person didn't own a gun, only the army had it.

Another example is Burkina faso, a great leader done huge social projects like vaxxing 80% of population within weeks, literacy from 90% to 20%, then france and the CIA killed him by bribing his generals, the ppl loved that leader and hated that general, but you need to know that they were simple with no gun and with no centralized cohesion.

 

[alexander]

One way is How the USA and Europe prevents dictatorships from forming. They use Strong institutions such as independent judiciary and election boards. The military in African countries are like romans, in that they are more loyal to their generals, thus many coups are orchestrated by generals. In general, strong institutions, good educated populace and less poverty leads to proper liberal Democracy

 

[Hargeysa]

African dictators are cancerous to the continent. They have held our people back for too long.

I'm a believer in democracy, but I don't know if Western style democracy is suitable for African nations. I don't think our institutions strong enough. They will be vulnerable to corruption and authoritarian politicians. Building strong, independent institutions must be a priority.

I'd like to see Africa use representative citizens assemblies, and other innovations to overcome clear weaknesses in the democratic system.

 

[Nilotic]

NOPE, and big NOPE, look at Congo, where a patriotic democracy was elected immidietly Belgium and western state killed and overthrow him, and installed a militry general, no one could do anything cause average person didn't own a gun, only the army had it.

Another example is Burkina faso, a great leader done huge social projects like vaxxing 80% of population within weeks, literacy from 90% to 20%, then france and the CIA killed him by bribing his generals, the ppl loved that leader and hated that general, but you need to know that they were simple with no gun and with no centralized cohesion.

I definitely see your point with regard to the DRC and Burkina Faso; Patrice Lumumba didn't even get the chance to set his Nation on the right path before the West assassinated him; and Thomas Sankara achieved great things in the very short period in which he presided over his Nation.

That's precisely why we should move away from the notion of an individual messiah and socialise the entire Nation with the same Sovereignty affirming ideology; patriotic, secular martyrdom is something that should be encouraged; assassinating one man would mean nothing at that point.

 

[Sheikh Google]

African dictators are cancerous to the continent. They have held our people back for too long.

I'm a believer in democracy, but I don't know if Western style democracy is suitable for African nations. I don't think our institutions strong enough. They will be vulnerable to corruption and authoritarian politicians. Building strong, independent institutions must be a priority.

I'd like to see Africa use representative citizens assemblies, and other innovations to overcome clear weaknesses in the democratic system.

Need to start somewhere. Simple things like term limits so these wecels dont end up staying past there sell by date. Also not being able to rotate in and out by becoming president then prime minister to circumvent the term limits and then back to president ala Putin style.

 

[Bundasliga]

Interesting fact ,many of them dictators were in high military positions before...

 

[Nilotic]

African dictators are cancerous to the continent. They have held our people back for too long.

I'm a believer in democracy, but I don't know if Western style democracy is suitable for African nations. I don't think our institutions strong enough. They will be vulnerable to corruption and authoritarian politicians. Building strong, independent institutions must be a priority.

I'd like to see Africa use representative citizens assemblies, and other innovations to overcome clear weaknesses in the democratic system.

Yes, we need a mixture of sortition, citizens assemblies and technocrats that are elected by the sortition filled parliament -- and they should come under their parliamentary purview.

You could design the sortition system in such a way that it reflects the demographic reality of a Nation; a Nation with a young population would be able to give this group far greater participation in their own government.

This is what I said in another thread:

I definitely want us to have real democracies in Africa, but they should conform to our own unique socio-political realities, stages of development and challenges.

Western style democratic electoralism is entirely unsuited for Africa; the system I've spoken about is actually more democratic than what is currently in place in any Western State, but it has significantly more safeguards and guide-rails.

Our Houses of Representatives and Senates should be filled through sortition -> jury-duty applied to politics; this would be significantly more representative; this would remove divisive elections; and it would greatly reduce the prospects of sinister State takeover, nepotism, kleptocracy and corruption.

Sortition members would be subject to a security and criminal and background check; and an extensive character assessment.

There would be an education requirement, which at minimum would be a high school diploma; there would also be a mandatory and thorough psyche evaluation...


..And a comprehensive education and training program in the laws of the Nation, economics, human rights, separation of powers and the organs of Government; this training program would last for 6 months to 1 year. This is where sortition members would learn the ins and outs of committee hearings and the intricacies of drafting legislation.

In addition to mandatory psychiatric evaluations necessary to screen out grandiose, psychopathic and sociopathic people... a body should be established to determine the most suitable individuals; this body would screen out hostile, vain, uncooperative, incompetent and corrupt people.

Elections would still take place but they would be for platforms and policies instead of politicians and personalitie; and they wouldn't be decided by millions of people that couldn't be properly informed on policy; or by people that could be easily swayed by charlatans and charismatic demagogues.

It would be significantly easier to properly inform 99 demographically representative members in Citizen Assemblies of the details of each policy proposal with the help of experts and policy representatives.

I'll use the Australian State of NSW as an example:

We have 8 million people spread over 128 councils and 90% of the 5 million enrolled voters are said to have participated in the State election in 2019.

The Citizens Assemblies model would randomly select 99 demographically representative members of each of the 128 councils and have them informed of the different policy platforms of each party over a 90 day period...

..This would mean that only 12, 672 people would cast a vote; these votes would be significantly better informed than the votes of 5 million people.

 

[Nilotic]

Interesting fact ,many of them dictators were in high military positions before...

Exactly! The structures of African militaries almost make it inevitable for coups to take place.

The military should be presided over by civilian administrators; we should scrap the patronage system that allows Generals to rally support for military coups by creating separate, independent bodies tasked with payroll.

There should also be at least 4 separate military branches and each should be presided over by civilian authorities; and the army should not be the only ground fighting force in the military.

 

[Ahmed123-]

It's interesting how dictators start of as pretty decent than the older they get the more blood thirsty and harsh they get until they get over thrown.

 

[Based]

 

[Nilotic]

It's interesting how dictators start of as pretty decent than the older they get the more blood thirsty and harsh they get until they get over thrown.

That's just the period before the mask comes off; or the act they assume to lull their future victims into complacency.

Africa is literally 'governed' by mentally ill monsters; and our political environments provide them with easily accessible pathways to power, when they should be discriminated against...

..Psychopaths, sociopaths, kleptomaniacs and malignant narcissists should be actively prevented from assuming leadership roles in every organisation -- especially in our 'Governments'...

..And this is precisely why they shouldn't be allowed to appeal to the general public in the form of elections.

 

[reer]

somalis understand brute force. that is why the dervish movement which became the 1st modern somali state and the revolutionary government lasted more than double the democratic government. and the dervish leader had more direct control than the democratic presidents. even though he fought multiple countries.

 

[Nilotic]

I don't think any African Nation has actually ever had democracy, so framing democratic Government as anaemic, weak or ineffective is entirely groundless.

The West was able to impose law & order without dictatorship, so I don't buy the notion that we we need mentally ill dictators in order to stabilise our Nations.

 

[Indeed]

The only way to control Somalis, the only way to ensure LAW and ORDER in Somalia, is by military dictatorship.

Yes Siad Barre was a war criminal, but his military regime had governed Somalia for 22 years, back then somalis use to be miskeens, as they wouldn’t dare break any laws etc until the very last period of the Siad Barre regime when they took up arms due to noticing the weaknesses of the Siad Barre regime during the late 80s.

Look at Saudi Arabia, UAE etc these Arab Middle Eastern countries are no joke in terms of law and order, Somalis there are miskeens law abiding citizens, who wouldn’t dare commit a crime or break law compared to soft western countries where somalis over populate prisons.

Somalia needs a strong leader and a strong government. In 2006, ICU would’ve been a success as they implemented laws for the first time since 1991, but of course foreign enemies like USA and Ethiopia didn’t like it, so got rid of ICU.

Strong leadership is needed, I won’t be surprised if there will be military coup in 20 years time in Somalia.

 

[reer]

I don't think any African Nation has actually ever had democracy, so framing democratic Government as anaemic, weak or ineffective is entirely groundless.

The West was able to impose law & order without dictatorship, so I don't buy the notion that we we need mentally ill dictators in order to stabilise our Nations.

if youre territory is in a strategic location. and is in anarchy. then you get government/statehood from brute force and blood spilled. if you dont have them it is unlikely to build a state unless the population are docile.

 

[Nilotic]

The only way to control Somalis, the only way to ensure LAW and ORDER in Somalia, is by military dictatorship.

Yes Siad Barre was a war criminal, but his military regime had governed Somalia for 22 years, back then somalis use to be miskeens, as they wouldn’t dare break any laws etc until the very last period of the Siad Barre regime when they took up arms due to noticing the weaknesses of the Siad Barre regime during the late 80s.

Look at Saudi Arabia, UAE etc these Arab Middle Eastern countries are no joke in terms of law and order, Somalis there are miskeens law abiding citizens, who wouldn’t dare commit a crime or break law compared to soft western countries where somalis over populate prisons.

Somalia needs a strong leader and a strong government. In 2006, ICU would’ve been a success as they implemented laws for the first time since 1991, but of course foreign enemies like USA and Ethiopia didn’t like it, so got rid of ICU.

Strong leadership is needed, I won’t be surprised if there will be military coup in 20 years time in Somalia.

You seem to be equating dictatorship with law & order when history demonstrates that dictatorships routinely contravene the laws of the land and weaken the State in the long run.

You can have an effective police force and a proper judiciary without a dictatorship, so I don't understand these positive associations with dictatorship.