Would you guys consider mixed Somalis fully somali

[Jaffar]

say a Somali man has a son with an ajnabi, according to you that son is a Somali. Now that son has a son with another ajnabi, since the grandson’s father (half-Somali) is Somali to you, the grandson is also Somali.

say this happens for multiple generations.

By the 5th generation, the kid doesn’t even know the name of his great grandfather and looks absolutely nothing like him. Doesn’t speak Somali, doesn’t have a Somali name.

is that kid still a Somali?

Yes ofcourse he is still Somali his paternal lineage is Somali which makes him Somali I have a cousins of mine his mother is white German his father is Somali he him self married a bosnian girl he does speak a bit Somali he comes with his kid to his parents house his father is much Somali that kid will know he is Somali . Somali is a culture and. A language how many kids in the west say walahi generation don’t speak a word of Somali does that make them less Somali

 

[NidarNidar]

Qabiil is a social construct. It doesn’t have to be dna Clans are accurate in society sure there are some sheegad in all Qabils. But Qabills are real the same way ethnic groups are real . It’s all perception. Social construct if Qabil aren’t accurate then ethnic group aren’t accurate to. What makes us an ethnic Somali is our qabil. Qabils have different folkore dances traditions myths historys. That is what makes a qabil a qabil
So qabill is real and accurate its way more solid then some sort of ethnicity

Qabil are safety nets, its a community some jilibs are real and related paternally to a founder others joined via marriage or started off as dia paying group, but after living together and protecting each other for so long autosomally and culturally there is no difference.

 

[novanova]

Yes ofcourse he is still Somali his paternal lineage is Somali which makes him Somali I have a cousins of mine his mother is white German his father is Somali he him self married a bosnian girl he does speak a bit Somali he comes with his kid to his parents house his father is much Somali that kid will know he is Somali . Somali is a culture and. A language how many kids in the west say walahi generation don’t speak a word of Somali does that make them less Somali

citizenship and passports should not be given to mixed people, doesnt matter if they’re maternally and paternally somali 🫣 unless they’ve been married to a full somali person for a couple of years..

 

[NidarNidar]

citizenship and passports should not be given to mixed people, doesnt matter if they’re maternally and paternally somali 🫣 unless they’ve been married to a full somali person for a couple of years..

Give me your western passport then

 

[reer]

True. I am oromo on dad side and somali on moms side but I identify as Somali.

so easy to trigger the crazy ethnonationalists.

 

[Sup]

How ? Im still somali, my dad is just Oromo

Hate to break it to you sxb, but you’re not. You’re an Oromo, you are what your father is.

 

[Bari]

if the mixed son of a somali man was to have kids with a foreign woman, are those children also somali?

Yes a person that only has one grandparent thats Somali is full Somali so long as that grandparent is his paternal grandfather.

 

[Araabi]

True. I am oromo on dad side and somali on moms side but I identify as Somali.

Which part of Oromia is your father from? Oromos, especially the ones from Hararghe for the most part share the same culture and ethical framework as NW Somalis.

Ignore the haters. They would welcome a half Yemeni who would spit on them but hate on a fellow Cushite.

 

[Tambien]

Nah, they only try to claim it since they're not accepted by their other side

 

[reer]

Which part of Oromia is your father from? Oromos, especially the ones from Hararghe for the most part share the same culture and ethical framework as NW Somalis.

Ignore the haters. They would welcome a half Yemeni who would spit on them but hate on a fellow Cushite.

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[Barkhadle1520]

Which part of Oromia is your father from? Oromos, especially the ones from Hararghe for the most part share the same culture and ethical framework as NW Somalis.

Ignore the haters. They would welcome a half Yemeni who would spit on them but hate on a fellow Cushite.

Thank you bro, Im arussi

 

[Barkhadle1520]

Of course you feel at home in a Somali space... would you people welcome us into yours, though? Oh yeah, the mass graves...

Idrc about the others, but half ethios are a genuine existential threat

Or just say you're racist ?

 

[Barkhadle1520]

Lol Mr. Oromo man when do you think qabiil started

Qabil started in 1991 before that somalians were very peaceful

 

[Caaro]

Yes legally. There are whole Swahili and Arab tribes that are counted as Somali because of that

What do you mean “legally”. Under what law are they Somali (definitely not Somali one because that doesn’t exist).

there is no legal definition of a Somali.

 

[Caaro]

Yes ofcourse he is still Somali his paternal lineage is Somali which makes him Somali I have a cousins of mine his mother is white German his father is Somali he him self married a bosnian girl he does speak a bit Somali he comes with his kid to his parents house his father is much Somali that kid will know he is Somali . Somali is a culture and. A language how many kids in the west say walahi generation don’t speak a word of Somali does that make them less Somali

You just contradicted yourself.

how can you say Somali is culture and a language when you just said you would consider some random chinese kid a Somali because his great-great-grandfather was Somali.

you will see the most Chinese looking kid called lee hong lee who doesn’t speak a lick of Somali or can’t point Somalia out on a map but he’s Somali because 150 years ago he had a Somali ancestor he doesn’t even know existed lmfao.

 

[MaliMohamed]

No. But if its the father yes

 

[Barkhadle1520]

there is no legal definition of a Somali.

According to HSM you're not somali

 

[Chase]

According to HSM you're not somali

Quick question, I've met multiple Oromo who asked me for my qabiil, even naming several Reers of my own sub-clan, they also speak (limited) Somali.

Yet there isn't a single Somali in Australia I've encountered who knows anything about y'all, not saying you guys are bad people, vast majority of Oromo & Somali here get along very well.

Just wondering, what's with this discrepancy where y'all are memorising clans/families down to Reers in the diaspora, whereas it's the complete opposite when it comes to us? It's hella weird ngl.

 

[Barkhadle1520]

Quick question, I've met multiple Oromo who asked me for my qabiil, even naming several Reers of my own sub-clan, they also speak (limited) Somali.

Yet there isn't a single Somali in Australia I've encountered who knows anything about y'all, not saying you guys are bad people, vast majority of Oromo & Somali here get along very well.

Just wondering, what's with this discrepancy where y'all are memorising clans/families down to Reers in the diaspora, whereas it's the complete opposite when it comes to us? It's hella weird ngl.

Cause we gatekeep our stuff but you guys dont, our goal is to assimilate more somali clans

 

[wonyluvr]

No. But if its the father yes

Yeah No. If one parent is Somali they are only 50% Somali.