Why Somalis need to unite now more than ever

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EmperorHeir

Gadabuursi ha nool
Somali’s are one of the most homogeneous people in the world, in general and especially in Africa. With great historical background and opulent religious heritage, they are one of the most infrequent kinds in Africa. But with all this there is one setback that has perpetually been part of their history and upbringing, Tribalism. Somali’s can be visually perceived as congenial people to foreigners in the Coalesced Kingdom for example, but to each other, tribalism comes into play once they come across you for the first time. In lieu of greeting you with an ‘’Hello, how are you?’’, it’s a well-kenned fact that many Somali’s approach one another by asking ‘’Yaad Teheey?’’(What are you? Or what tribe are you?). By this, they will judge you predicated on your tribe in lieu of your personality and who you authentically are.
A British colonial officer by the denomination of H. B. Kittermaster, who worked in British-Somaliland, indited the following about the Somalis: “Why do the Somalis occupy today their present position in the scale of civilization and development? This is a question which perhaps demands a passing thought. They are indubitably still primitive, having reached only a system of loose tribal organization in which even the tribal elders and herdsmen exercise but minuscule control.” 70 years down the line and Somali’s are still in the same mentality where they prioritise tribes and optically canvass that afore they pass on judgement and it’s quite lamentable.
The 4.5 formula is a system whereby Somali’s are divided into four major clans, then the other minor ones are composed together as a moiety clan. In the Democratic Republic of Congo, it’s a well-kenned fact that a cabinet of over 90 positions had to be composed in order to gratify every clan and sub-clan which is dismal and unacceptable. Even The Cumulated Kingdom, a super power in today’s world only has 23 Cabinet ministers, which authentically does exemplify the way some Africans run their countries and how problematic tribalism is.
The most perturbing authenticity is that Somali’s have endured the most painful chapter in their history and when you would take all the suffering and onslaught as a raison d’être to get more proximate together and coalesce, tribalism is the first thing they turn to and commence to preclude themselves from other tribes, such as Somaliland and Puntland has done, by no designates am I criticising the move of the Somalilanders. It is authentically disappointing when US Library of Congress publication verbally express: “Somali society has retrogressed to an amassment of warring clans reminiscent of pre-industrial times.” It’s virtually a furtive insult to Somali’s that they haven’t yet evolved and shouldn’t be put in the same bracket as the other ‘developed ‘western countries.
If Somali’s abolished tribalism and converge moreover amalgamate, it’s believed that they could achieve great things, economically furthermore withal build a great nation, if not the greatest in Africa. Mr. Kittermaster who verbally expressed when he was verbalizing about the Somalis and their future: “But these people are by no denotes unintelligent or decadent. It is probable that they must be regarded as among the most virile and keenly intellective of any African peoples.” He then concluded by affirming: “Their astuteness and their keen facility as traders mark them out as capable of development, but there appears to be diminutive hope of a radical transmutation in them unless it is possible to ravage the camel involute.”
The solutions have been addressed many times and have been ignored repulsively, there comes a time when man asks himself, will Somali’s ever tackle this impediment blocking them of better and thriving days to come? And the question is very hard to answer because you
genuinely want Somali’s to progress to a better future but we cannot optically discern that transpiring in the near future haplessly. All Somali’s can do now is obviate future Siad Barre’s and Mohammed Farah Aidid’s, these are the very men that led the failure and warfare of Somalia, if there were to be replica’s of them in future, the prospects of Somalia will look revoltingly faint and that’s something no one wants to optically discern.
 
Somali’s are one of the most homogeneous people in the world, in general and especially in Africa. With great historical background and opulent religious heritage, they are one of the most infrequent kinds in Africa. But with all this there is one setback that has perpetually been part of their history and upbringing, Tribalism. Somali’s can be visually perceived as congenial people to foreigners in the Coalesced Kingdom for example, but to each other, tribalism comes into play once they come across you for the first time. In lieu of greeting you with an ‘’Hello, how are you?’’, it’s a well-kenned fact that many Somali’s approach one another by asking ‘’Yaad Teheey?’’(What are you? Or what tribe are you?). By this, they will judge you predicated on your tribe in lieu of your personality and who you authentically are.
A British colonial officer by the denomination of H. B. Kittermaster, who worked in British-Somaliland, indited the following about the Somalis: “Why do the Somalis occupy today their present position in the scale of civilization and development? This is a question which perhaps demands a passing thought. They are indubitably still primitive, having reached only a system of loose tribal organization in which even the tribal elders and herdsmen exercise but minuscule control.” 70 years down the line and Somali’s are still in the same mentality where they prioritise tribes and optically canvass that afore they pass on judgement and it’s quite lamentable.
The 4.5 formula is a system whereby Somali’s are divided into four major clans, then the other minor ones are composed together as a moiety clan. In the Democratic Republic of Congo, it’s a well-kenned fact that a cabinet of over 90 positions had to be composed in order to gratify every clan and sub-clan which is dismal and unacceptable. Even The Cumulated Kingdom, a super power in today’s world only has 23 Cabinet ministers, which authentically does exemplify the way some Africans run their countries and how problematic tribalism is.
The most perturbing authenticity is that Somali’s have endured the most painful chapter in their history and when you would take all the suffering and onslaught as a raison d’être to get more proximate together and coalesce, tribalism is the first thing they turn to and commence to preclude themselves from other tribes, such as Somaliland and Puntland has done, by no designates am I criticising the move of the Somalilanders. It is authentically disappointing when US Library of Congress publication verbally express: “Somali society has retrogressed to an amassment of warring clans reminiscent of pre-industrial times.” It’s virtually a furtive insult to Somali’s that they haven’t yet evolved and shouldn’t be put in the same bracket as the other ‘developed ‘western countries.
If Somali’s abolished tribalism and converge moreover amalgamate, it’s believed that they could achieve great things, economically furthermore withal build a great nation, if not the greatest in Africa. Mr. Kittermaster who verbally expressed when he was verbalizing about the Somalis and their future: “But these people are by no denotes unintelligent or decadent. It is probable that they must be regarded as among the most virile and keenly intellective of any African peoples.” He then concluded by affirming: “Their astuteness and their keen facility as traders mark them out as capable of development, but there appears to be diminutive hope of a radical transmutation in them unless it is possible to ravage the camel involute.”
The solutions have been addressed many times and have been ignored repulsively, there comes a time when man asks himself, will Somali’s ever tackle this impediment blocking them of better and thriving days to come? And the question is very hard to answer because you
genuinely want Somali’s to progress to a better future but we cannot optically discern that transpiring in the near future haplessly. All Somali’s can do now is obviate future Siad Barre’s and Mohammed Farah Aidid’s, these are the very men that led the failure and warfare of Somalia, if there were to be replica’s of them in future, the prospects of Somalia will look revoltingly faint and that’s something no one wants to optically discern.



i agree.

tell me how does one create threads? im new here
 
jubouti doin good,ethiopian Somalis on right track, nfd doing good. as far as the old Somalia is concerned, let those agree on unity do so,those who wana leave should be fine too. the more important thing is workn on peace with open borders for all Somalis to deal with each otha...this itself is more important and more constructive,this is the only way to beat clannism. unity by name only is no unity.
the likelihood that atleast Ethiopia and Somalis will very much intermingle in the nxt 20 to 30yrs is a great possibility not really far fetched. the free movement of people is the utmost more important requirement.
 
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Somali’s are one of the most homogeneous people in the world, in general and especially in Africa. With great historical background and opulent religious heritage, they are one of the most infrequent kinds in Africa. But with all this there is one setback that has perpetually been part of their history and upbringing, Tribalism. Somali’s can be visually perceived as congenial people to foreigners in the Coalesced Kingdom for example, but to each other, tribalism comes into play once they come across you for the first time. In lieu of greeting you with an ‘’Hello, how are you?’’, it’s a well-kenned fact that many Somali’s approach one another by asking ‘’Yaad Teheey?’’(What are you? Or what tribe are you?). By this, they will judge you predicated on your tribe in lieu of your personality and who you authentically are.
A British colonial officer by the denomination of H. B. Kittermaster, who worked in British-Somaliland, indited the following about the Somalis: “Why do the Somalis occupy today their present position in the scale of civilization and development? This is a question which perhaps demands a passing thought. They are indubitably still primitive, having reached only a system of loose tribal organization in which even the tribal elders and herdsmen exercise but minuscule control.” 70 years down the line and Somali’s are still in the same mentality where they prioritise tribes and optically canvass that afore they pass on judgement and it’s quite lamentable.
The 4.5 formula is a system whereby Somali’s are divided into four major clans, then the other minor ones are composed together as a moiety clan. In the Democratic Republic of Congo, it’s a well-kenned fact that a cabinet of over 90 positions had to be composed in order to gratify every clan and sub-clan which is dismal and unacceptable. Even The Cumulated Kingdom, a super power in today’s world only has 23 Cabinet ministers, which authentically does exemplify the way some Africans run their countries and how problematic tribalism is.
The most perturbing authenticity is that Somali’s have endured the most painful chapter in their history and when you would take all the suffering and onslaught as a raison d’être to get more proximate together and coalesce, tribalism is the first thing they turn to and commence to preclude themselves from other tribes, such as Somaliland and Puntland has done, by no designates am I criticising the move of the Somalilanders. It is authentically disappointing when US Library of Congress publication verbally express: “Somali society has retrogressed to an amassment of warring clans reminiscent of pre-industrial times.” It’s virtually a furtive insult to Somali’s that they haven’t yet evolved and shouldn’t be put in the same bracket as the other ‘developed ‘western countries.
If Somali’s abolished tribalism and converge moreover amalgamate, it’s believed that they could achieve great things, economically furthermore withal build a great nation, if not the greatest in Africa. Mr. Kittermaster who verbally expressed when he was verbalizing about the Somalis and their future: “But these people are by no denotes unintelligent or decadent. It is probable that they must be regarded as among the most virile and keenly intellective of any African peoples.” He then concluded by affirming: “Their astuteness and their keen facility as traders mark them out as capable of development, but there appears to be diminutive hope of a radical transmutation in them unless it is possible to ravage the camel involute.”
The solutions have been addressed many times and have been ignored repulsively, there comes a time when man asks himself, will Somali’s ever tackle this impediment blocking them of better and thriving days to come? And the question is very hard to answer because you
genuinely want Somali’s to progress to a better future but we cannot optically discern that transpiring in the near future haplessly. All Somali’s can do now is obviate future Siad Barre’s and Mohammed Farah Aidid’s, these are the very men that led the failure and warfare of Somalia, if there were to be replica’s of them in future, the prospects of Somalia will look revoltingly faint and that’s something no one wants to optically discern.


Somalis will not unite believe me its a part of the islam countries that are divided its a sign of qiyamah the only time we will muslim unite is when the Mahdi comes out.
 

Ras

It's all so tiresome
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These past decades have been the biggest stain in the whole 1,000+ years history of our people.

Tribalism isn't the problem here.

The Europeans and Asians all had something similar.... whether it was sectarianism or even qabilism itself.

However they still ended up developing civilisations that kept on progressing.

If we aren't true to ourselves and acknowledge the real reason for our retarded development then we'll be stuck in this limbo for the next century.

What are those reasons?

  1. Misguided priorities - fighting over useless land.
  2. Complacency - being contend with coming last out of almost 200 countries for everything.
  3. Lack of a social class - if everyone is equal then there's no need for upward social mobility. Cute egalitarian dream but it doesn't work when you live in a country with limited resources.

The next election in Somalia will be the 100 years anniversary of when the Brits finally beat the last standing Somali; Mohammed Abdullah Hassan.

Let's hope that we end up "electing" someone who understands that; unless we fix those intractable gaping holes in Somalia society, we'll be observing the 100 years anniversary of the death of the Somali people.
 
The solution is dictatorship. Every kalab qabilist is content with a barren land and tens of thousands starving people as long as his qabil are in charge. Its been 27yrs now. Dictatorship is the only solution
 

Apollo

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Somalia is not homogeneous at all.

It is one of the most diverse countries in Africa, with large genetic distances within the country.
 

Apollo

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We are very homogenous if you leave out bantus and barwani

And all those South Somalis who mixed with them? Oromo immigrants as well.

Leaves only like 60% that's genetically similar.

Countries like Botswana are far more homogeneous (95% same).
 

Macalin M

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And all those South Somalis who mixed with them? Oromo immigrants as well.

Leaves only like 60% that's genetically similar.

Countries like Botswana are far more homogeneous (95% same).
South Somalis mixing with Bantus, sxb your my favourite Suugo scientist but are you alright there?
 

Apollo

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South Somalis mixing with Bantus, sxb your my favourite Suugo scientist but are you alright there?

There are many people in the South who are part Bantu but claim an ethnic Somali clan.

Somalia is not homogeneous. This myth needs to die. I find Eritrea to be more homogeneous than Somalia.
 

Macalin M

Out here
There are many people in the South who are part Bantu but claim an ethnic Somali clan.

Somalia is not homogeneous. This myth needs to die. I find Eritrea to be more homogeneous than Somalia.
I’m not sure about that bit there Bro, sure the Bantus try and claim Somali clans like RWeyne but they get caught out almost instantly.
 

Factz

Factzopedia
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@Amun Stop your trolling already. Somalis don't intermarry with the Bantus and you even told me Bantus only claim Somali tribes but Somalis are good at detecting shegaad. Somalis are overall homogeneous and Oromos are not that much either so don't worry.
 
@Amun Stop your trolling already. Somalis don't intermarry with the Bantus and you even told me Bantus only claim Somali tribes but Somalis are good at detecting shegaad. Somalis are overall homogeneous and Oromos are not that much either so don't worry.

I agree with you brother. but Somalis uniting is somehow dangerous to its neighbours according to white people and Xabashis, because Somalis are people who naturally think violence 24/7. So that’s why Xabashis, Bantus, Arabs, British and Americans are doing whatever they can to keep us fighting which sadly is working. You think us ending up in western countries was something that happened out of the blue ?. It was planned brother, so that we can relax and enjoy the western life so that they can destablise our motherland. Somalis are too divided, I don’t think even a common enemy would unite us.
 

EmperorHeir

Gadabuursi ha nool
There are many people in the South who are part Bantu but claim an ethnic Somali clan.

Somalia is not homogeneous. This myth needs to die. I find Eritrea to be more homogeneous than Somalia.
I'm pretty sure we can pick out who's Bantu and who's not, even if they are mixed. Bantu genes are strong.
 
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