Why Somaliland should never recieve recognition

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Zayd

Habar Magaadle
Before the Somaliland e-mob comes after me, know that I am the son and grandson of two SNM fighters.
Don't get me wrong, Somaliland has achieved the greatest thing a society can achieve, stability, especially over the course of the last 25 years. However let me ask you, do you want Somaliland to end up like the UAE? Which is soon btw going to introduce VAT taxes because of them finally realising that you can't have a resource like oil as a lifeline of a nation.

Or do you want neighbouring Somali states to also split into tiny little nations, furthering our weaknesses to the world? Don't get me wrong, 150 years ago Somalis knew nothing of a united nation, each clan tended to his own, whatever civil society existed only existed in coastal towns and cities like Zeila and Berbera.
The idea of a homogenous Somali nation does sound good to the ears but bringing such a thing is more trickier than finding a needle in a haystack, this is because every Somali sees his fellow Somali as a equal or even inferior, which leads them to have this desire to remove whatever leader there is in power and replace them with their own.

Siad Barre did it with the iron fist, but look where that took him, the cronies in his regime stirred up a little trouble and that eventually led to a civil war that ended for some in 1991, but carried on for others for 20 years.

Let me be the first to say I will never support a union between the two current governments, Hassan Sheikh Mahmoud is nothing but a appointed stooge to me, and let's just say Silaanyo re-introduced tribal politics in Somaliland after replacing most of his cabinet ministers with unknown men from his tribe (Xirsi Gaab?)

My main contention with recognition is that we will become a weak nation vulnerable to the seductive investment plans from the international co-operations. Somalis have to become a robust self-sufficient nation, feeding it's people it's own grain, treating it's various clans equally (unlike Siad's bizarre rule on Hargeisa where he prevented the construction of buildings larger than two storeys).

I love Somaliland , we don't have to throw away our flag, it's just that we should not be naïve to the criminal loan sharks like the IMF who will seize the opportunity to put us in a cycle of debt..
A wolf attacks the lone sheep.:mybusiness:
 

Bohol

VIP
Don't worry, frankly I don't think it will get recognized anytime soon in our lifetime anyway. I am more concerned about
the lack of development.
 

McD30

Bored to death
It sounds like you realised that Somaliland will never get recognition and you are trying to save face?

It will never get recognition. If its attachment to a failed state with no government was no enough for the international community, what on earth do you think you have to offer the international community for them to give another Muslim nation a seat at the United Nations? It would be completely unnecessary and a burden for it to be a nation. Djibouti serves every purpose that Somaliland would claim to offer the IC.
 

waraabe

Your superior
It sounds like you realised that Somaliland will never get recognition and you are trying to save face?

It will never get recognition. If its attachment to a failed state with no government was no enough for the international community, what on earth do you think you have to offer the international community for them to give another Muslim nation a seat at the United Nations? It would be completely unnecessary and a burden for it to be a nation. Djibouti serves every purpose that Somaliland would claim to offer the IC.

somalia isn't going to be peaceful or secure so i dont mind being unrecognised
 

McD30

Bored to death
somalia isn't going to be peaceful or secure so i dont mind being unrecognised
You don't know that and you are guided by emotions.

IMF or the World Bank has no interest in extorting a resourceless region with little human capital.
 

Freebandz

MONEY TEAM
Somalia has been given billlions even during the 20 yrs of civil war.Which it has to pay for plus interest.
is around 3-4 billions before the civil war it was few hundred million.
it isn't really that large compare to the rest of the world if anything is pretty small.
 
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So you mean during the civil war till to date its Zero?
How amny peace conferences did Somalia have? Do you think the NGO's operating in Somalia was free money?
Who do you think paid for the Mbagathi peace conference and whose money do you think Amisom is usinf in Keeping peace?
 

Freebandz

MONEY TEAM

McD30

Bored to death
Wat about the concurring expenditure?
So saying billions am right innit? cos its more than a million.
Bandit is right it's about 3-4 billion and international money lenders have said they won't lend any more until Somalia starts paying back the money even after Hassan Sheikh begged them for more money. This means they'll be hard pressed to pay government workers and whichever country steps in and pays will have a great influence in the corrupt government.
 
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