Why Formaggio's Ethiopia Port Deal is a win for Somaliland

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Formaggio has agreed with Ethiopia that it will invest in four ports in so-called 'Somalia'. These are Berbera, Bosaso, Mogadishu and Kismayo. This is actually in Somaliland's interest. Imma break it down for ya'll.

Interestingly we all know that Formaggio doesn't control Berbera or Somaliland. Nor can he or anyone in his so-called government visit it, let alone arrange investments in it. He is a figurehead with no real power in real terms. But he has to keep up the charade and pretence. For example that he is a President runs a 'government' in 'Somalia'. That he controls all of 'Somalia' etc. Never mind that he is protected by 25,000 Amisom troops from African countries. Without them he is nothing.


But let's get back to the deal. This deal is actually in Somaliland's benefit.

1. It shows Formaggio's continued undermining of Somaliland and interference in its affairs. He continues trying to undermine the democratically elected Somaliland government. But it will only shoot him in the foot. It will continue to set Somalilanders against the so-called federal government of Somalia. Somaliland will continue is hostile approach to Somalia and secure its buffer zone. This is in Somaliland's interest and will help continue uniting the people of Somaliland against Somalia's agression and interference.


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2. It will legitimise Ethiopia's use of Berbera, now the Farmaggio has given his symbolic approval. This means that the UAE-Somaliland-Ethiopia tripartite deal can go ahead full steam and that the 'federal government of Somalia' cannot object anymore. This means that both UAE and Ethiopia as partners to Somaliland Berbera investment are protected from court cases and objections by the so-called Federal Government of 'Somalia'.

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3. There won't be any genuine investment in Mogadishu, Bosaso or Kismaayo from Ethiopia. This is because Ethiopia is going through an economic and currency crises. They are desperate for money to flow into Ethiopia. They are having to stop imports and shut down factories across Ethiopia because of the currency crises. This is why Abiy their new PM has been going around the world with his begging bowl. Ethiopia is in no position to invest in 4 ports, let alone in high-risk capital-intensive investments such as South Somalia. Abiy said this himself a few days ago. Look at the below link. They begged the UAE for help and they are lending them 3bn USD which they are depositing in the Ethiopia central bank to help with emergency cash flow. Formaggio is forever rushing to conclusions without doing his homework. Ethiopia is in no state to invest in anything, let alone multi billion dollar port projects. But in the Berbera port deal, UAE is investing the hard capital required.

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https://www.reuters.com/article/eth...age-will-last-years-new-premier-idUSL8N1RT61K

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20180616-uae-to-give-ethiopia-3-billion-in-aid-and-investments/

4. Ethiopia has signed lots of port deals. With Sudan, with Somaliland, with Djibouti, with Kenya. Now there are supposedly 4 additional port deals in 'Somalia'. Does Ethiopia as a poor African country really have the hundreds of billions of dollars required to develop 6+ ports and all the associated infrastructure such as roads, lorry parks, warehouses, power? No, of course not. Ethiopia would need foreign support from 3rd parties capable of capital investments. In Sudan it has the Sudanese government. In Djibobuti it has China. In Somaliland it has UAE. In Kenya there is the Kenyan government + AfDB. Who in their right mind would invest 10bn USD in south Somalia? Of all the port projects that Ethiopia has agreed to part-take in, the only ones to start are those with foreign backing. And Somaliland has started in earnest. The closes ports to Ethiopia's population centres are Djibouti and Berbera. The rest are thousands of miles away. You can't argue with facts and geography. Berbera and Djibouti are best located and have foreign backing from UAE + China. Somaliland also has security and geographic interests with UAE being close to Arabian Peninsula - South Somalia doesn't. This is why UAE will continue supporting Somaliland and why Ethiopia will have no choice but to use Berbera in the long term future.

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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...in-sudans-main-sea-gateway-port-idUSKBN1I41R1

5. The ports mentioned in this agreement have already been contracted out. They are already controlled by others. Mogadishu port, airport and hospitals are firmly in the control of Turkey which is milking $$$ from them. Kismaayo is similarly controlled by Kenya. Boosaaso by Puntland. They will not give it up. The Kenyan military is known to run commodities and charoal smuggling racket out of Kismaayo port. Turkey, Kenya, Puntland all have a good thing going. Why would they relinquish their power and money sources to illiterate Formaggio? C'mon now. Farmaggio is acting rash and foolishly without looking at real power and control, rather than paper power and control. Formaggio does not have the real power to direct these investments, it's just talk.

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https://www.economist.com/middle-ea...sugar-smuggling-racket-with-somali-terrorists


Overall Farmaggio's deal with Ethiopia therefore serves Ethiopia's and Somaliland's interests. It does nothing for Somalia. Farmaggio has been played like a primary school kid. Somaliland + Ethiopia + UAE have played a blinder here. It legitimises the port investment deal in Berbera. It puts the Somaliland people and government against Somalia, to continue a hostile approach forever. It ensures that the so called Federal Govenment cannot object to the Berbera port investment anymore. Meanwhile Farmaggio's government gets nothing out of it. We got Formaggio good. This is a great day for Somaliland. We keep winning with God's grace.

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Saalax Bidaar

Truthfulness so often goes with ruthlessness
You thought berbera was special and that it would be in competition with Djibouti but all he did was agree to new deal with Djaboij and three more ports in Somalia in addition to Berbera.

The UAE bastards have not delivered any of the things they promised.

And Meanwhile Ethiopian PM goes to Xamar to
Sign a new deal with Somalia which includes berbera.

Clear indication that Ethiopian considers Muse biixi as state governor and Farmaajo as a President of a nation

All the dick sucking has paid off after all these years
 
@Saalax Bidaar Right so Ethiopia which has an economic and currency crisis will invest in three Somalia ports? You really believe that?

Also arn't Mogadishu and Kismaayo controlled by Turkey and Kenya. Berbera and Boosaaso are controlled by Somaliland and Puntland. So which ports exactly does Formaggio control that he will allow investments in?

U must be joking :chrisfreshhah:

This deal was about Formaggio giving his symbolic approval of the Berbera port deal. Somaliland + Ethiopia + UAE now have what they need from him. The Berbera port investment will go full steam ahead.

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Saalax Bidaar

Truthfulness so often goes with ruthlessness
@Saalax Bidaar Right so Ethiopia which has an economic and currency crisis will invest in three Somalia ports? You really believe that?

Also arn't Mogadishu and Kismaayo controlled by Turkey and Kenya. Berbera and Boosaaso are controlled by Somaliland and Puntland. So which ports exactly does Formaggio control that he will allow investments in?

U must be joking :chrisfreshhah:

This deal was about Formaggio giving his symbolic approval of the Berbera port deal. Somaliland + Ethiopia + UAE now have what they need from him. The Berbera port investment will go full steam ahead.

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So the Xabashi midgets are being used. Oh how disappointed! Here I thought they had advanced in their thinking but they are still same old Amxaaro ur badan
 

Cotton Eyed Joe

More law, less justice.
VIP
It just made Berbera less important and opened up business to all other ports without Ethiopian stakes. You are now a vassal without any trade, bound to a deal contingent on trade, to a country with port options in Djibouti, Sudan, Somalia and soon Eritrea. Your points are as ridiculous as your map.
 

Saalax Bidaar

Truthfulness so often goes with ruthlessness
It just made Berbera less important and opened up business to all other ports without Ethiopian stakes. You are now a vassal without any trade, bound to a deal contingent on trade, to a country with port options in Djibouti, Sudan, Somalia and soon Eritrea. Your points are as ridiculous as your map.
He has a good point though. Ethiopians are being given a credit they don’t deserve and he did visit Dubia recently. Perhaps Ayrabs have hand in this.
Perhaps Going to Sudan, Djibouti and Somalia wasn’t to sign a new port deals but to divert attention from Berbera which they have 19% stake unlike anywhere else.
 
It just made Berbera less important and opened up business to all other ports without Ethiopian stakes. You are now a vassal without any trade, bound to a deal contingent on trade, to a country with port options in Djibouti, Sudan, Somalia and soon Eritrea. Your points are as ridiculous as your map.

Sorry buddy but the facts stack up in favour of Somaliland and against Somalia.

1. Berbera is the closest accessible port in the world to the Ethiopian population centres, after Djibouti. Other ports like Bosaso and Mogadishu are an extra 1,000 KM away. Also there are no roads from Ethiopian population centres to Mogadishu and Kismaayo. Plus the regions between are controlled by Al Shabab. They are no go zones.

2. UAE has made a public commitment to invest in and has already started on the Berbera port project. They have staff and new assets in Berbera including new tug boats, cranes, staff and chinook helicopters. They have started on the military base also.

3. Ethiopia has no money to invest in three ports in South Somalia. They are utterly broke and begging around the world for capital themselves. So they couldnt possibly invest in South Somalia even if they wanted to. That's why Berbera port required UAE to invest the capital.

4. Mogadishu port is controlled by Turkey which has a 35 year contract. Kismaayo is firmly in the hands of Kenya and AMISOM which profiteer from it. Formaggio does not have the power to hand these ports out to Ethiopia.

Unionist-Extremsts from South Somalia really struggle with facts :farmajoyaab: :siilaanyolaugh:
 
He has a good point though. Ethiopians are being given a credit they don’t deserve and he did visit Dubia recently. Perhaps Ayrabs have hand in this.
Perhaps Going to Sudan, Djibouti and Somalia wasn’t to sign a new port deals but to divert attention from Berbera which they have 19% stake unlike anywhere else.

When the facts dont suit Unionist Extremists from the South, they resort to lies, lies and more lies.. Berbera is not the only port where Ethiopia has a share. They have a share in Port Sudan and Djibouti port. Try again

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...in-sudans-main-sea-gateway-port-idUSKBN1I41R1

http://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/bus...Djibouti-port/2560-4539316-yn4v1iz/index.html
 

Saalax Bidaar

Truthfulness so often goes with ruthlessness
When the facts dont suit Unionist Extremists from the South, they resort to lies, lies and more lies.. Berbera is not the only port where Ethiopia has a share. They have a share in Port Sudan and Djibouti port. Try again

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...in-sudans-main-sea-gateway-port-idUSKBN1I41R1

http://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/bus...Djibouti-port/2560-4539316-yn4v1iz/index.html

No need to get aggravated. I am all about facts which you have given. Just because that info was absent from me doesn’t mean I lied and I am from Togdheer for the record
 

Cotton Eyed Joe

More law, less justice.
VIP
He has a good point though. Ethiopians are being given a credit they don’t deserve and he did visit Dubia recently. Perhaps Ayrabs have hand in this.
Perhaps Going to Sudan, Djibouti and Somalia wasn’t to sign a new port deals but to divert attention from Berbera which they have 19% stake unlike anywhere else.
Nobody has a problem with Berbera's port investment, the problem is the military base and stake without the Somali government and a strategic stake owned by an immediate neighbor or rival. We have no reason to believe that position has changed and the fact that they regard Berbera as part of Somalia is not a win for you. @Futurist is trying hard to spin this as a win but why is Somaliland fighting in Tukaraq for if Berbera is considered part of Somalia?
 
People also don't realise that Berbera port is not just a commercial deal. It is also a security deal. Somaliland's democratically elected government has given UAE permission to build a military base in Berbera. This is a very strategic location because it is at the mouth of the Bab el Mandeb strait. It is also not far from the The Gulf. It is also directly opposite Aden port in Yemen where the GCC countries are fighting with Houthi terrorists.

UAE-Somaliland therefore have strategic co-operation in place because our interests align. Somaliland is aligned with UAE-Saudi Arabia. Somalia on the other hand is aligned with Qatar -Iran.

Mogadishu is 2000 miles from Yemen. They have nothing to offer the UAE.

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Also lets not forget that Qatar and Houthi terrorists in Yemen has pledged allegiance to Somalia and Iran in its row with United Arab Emirates (UAE). Somalia's president Farmaajo (his Somalia Federal Government) has pledged allegiance also to Qatar and Iran. Somalia Federal Government is working directly against UAE and Saudi Arabia interests.





 
South Somalia is irrelevant like never before. It is a modern day colony. There is no point in UAE even being there or having relation with it. Farmaajo is the make-belief president. It is role play. He is an actor in a play called AMISOM's adventures in Somalia. He is protected by 22 THOUSANDS african troops in South Somalia. He has no real power or authority. He cannot direct investments or bilateral agreements, other than for symbolic reasons.


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Somaliland on the other hand is peaceful, democratic, stable. It is genuinely a good place to invest.

If you had invested £100m in 2000 in Somaliland now you would have a sizeable return due to its stability since the. Nearly 20 years of political and social stability. For example look at the $20m Coca Cola factory that has been operating in Somaliland for 10 years. I know that God Willing the DP world deal will be a success.

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Saalax Bidaar

Truthfulness so often goes with ruthlessness
Nobody has a problem with Berbera's port investment, the problem is the military base and stake without the Somali government and a strategic stake owned by an immediate neighbor or rival. We have no reason to believe that position has changed and the fact that they regard Berbera as part of Somalia is not a win for you. @Futurist is trying hard to spin this as a win but why is Somaliland fighting in Tukaraq for if Berbera is considered part of Somalia?

There is too many moving parts help me break it down here bal.

Ethiopia signed the berbera deal without the FGS to begin, but if they truly respect the territorial integrity of the country why have they not listened to the federal parliament nullification of the said deal?

in one hand they are supporting the territorial integrity of Somalia whilst also signing deals with regional governments without FGS!

They are double dealing slimy bastards is what I think. Obviously they don’t care about Somalia nor its territorial integrity and why should they? They are historical arch enemy
 
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