Why do Arabs hide Bilal ibn Rabah RA heritage

[Shaolin23]

Bilal RA was an Arab through and through because of his father as Arabs are a patrilineal society but Arabs tend to call him al Habash Black or Negro what does his mother have to do with anything why do they continue to distort history

 

[Samira]

Bilal never existed. He and much of the Companions are post-facto constructions of an expanding empire. There is nothing to hide or distort.

 

[Shaolin23]

Bilal never existed. He and much of the Companions are post-facto constructions of an expanding empire. There is nothing to hide or distort.

Prove it

 

[Yonis]

Bilal never existed. He and much of the Companions are post-facto constructions of an expanding empire. There is nothing to hide or distort.

kys degenerate

 

[Samira]

Prove it

It was narrated to me by Abu Ebeer ibn Hashimi

 

[Baliska]

The habasha empire took over the arab land. And enslaved the arabs. Then they finally went for Mecca and lost, Bilal's mom was a war prisoner, the arabs hated black people because of their conquest of the arabian lands (excluding mecca).

 

[Wardheere]

Bilal never existed. He and much of the Companions are post-facto constructions of an expanding empire. There is nothing to hide or distort.

Nothing existed before you even your father and mother did not exist. You did not have a grand father too.
You poped up from the ground like a tree.

 

[RICH]

Bilal never existed. He and much of the Companions are post-facto constructions of an expanding empire. There is nothing to hide or distort.

Naa balaayo... doqonimadan eega

 

[Yaquub]

Bilal RA was an Arab through and through because of his father as Arabs are a patrilineal society but Arabs tend to call him al Habash Black or Negro what does his mother have to do with anything why do they continue to distort history

It's this religion's failed attempt to show that they are not racist. They won't mention the other dark skinned prophets like musa. Instead they would portray them as white arabs.

 

[Yaquub]

Bilal never existed. He and much of the Companions are post-facto constructions of an expanding empire. There is nothing to hide or distort.

Aren't you the super depressed one??

 

[Yaquub]

The habasha empire took over the arab land. And enslaved the arabs. Then they finally went for Mecca and lost, Bilal's mom was a war prisoner, the arabs hated black people because of their conquest of the arabian lands (excluding mecca).

That's when they pissed on his church. Wallah it's like a comedy sketch. A low iq arab gets offended of an ethiopian guy building a church and the most sensible thing he does is to piss on it to prove his point that his idol gods are more divine. Then said habashi brings a whole army to destroy their idol gods in the kaaba for said insult and god has to save arab useless booty yet again.

 

[Basra]

But how do we know he was half arab? The hadith describe him as Habashi or slave.,

 

[one]

Well, Arab culture(especially, before Islam) is very much different from the Somali one.
For Somalis, you're "Somali" if your father is Somali. That's it.
While for Arabs, the nasab of the mother was(and probably is?) equally as important as the paternal one due to their "hasab wa-nasab practice.
Before Islam, a lot of arabs used to have dual lineages, kunyah etc. Even among the sahabas for example, Abdullahi b. Masud and Ammar b. Yasir used to be called after their mothers.

Being a "pure" Arab on both sides of the family was very important, that's why Bilal, Usama b. Zayd, Ayman etc. were never considered full Arabs, even though their dads were Arabs.

 

[Basra]

Well, Arab culture(especially, before Islam) is very much different from the Somali one.
For Somalis, you're "Somali" if your father is Somali. That's it.
While for Arabs, the nasab of the mother was(and probably is?) equally as important as the paternal one due to their "hasab wa-nasab practice.
Before Islam, a lot of arabs used to have dual lineages, kunyah etc. Even among the sahabas for example, Abdullahi b. Masud and Ammar b. Yasir used to be called after their mothers.

Being a "pure" Arab on both sides of the family was very important, that's why Bilal, Usama b. Zayd, Ayman etc. were never considered full Arabs, even though their dads were Arabs.

Not necessarily. Somalis are no different from arabs. We inherited our culture and deen from them, understand? Somalis have a problem with Somalis who are not belonging to the three main somali qabils, two some times, what makes u think they will accept a half arab somali or half bantu somali?

 

[one]

Not necessarily. Somalis are no different from arabs. We inherited our culture and deen from them, understand? Somalis have a problem with Somalis who are not belonging to the three main somali qabils, two some times, what makes u think they will accept a half arab somali or half bantu somali?

Well, there's no logic to the Somali nasab which makes it inferior to the Arab one.
Two of these so called main qabils only claim Somali, maternally. Doesn't make sense to begin with since qabils are strictly supposed to be paternal.

 

[VixR]

Bilal never existed. He and much of the Companions are post-facto constructions of an expanding empire. There is nothing to hide or distort.

Interesting theory, but what corroborates that other than the human tendency for post-facto constructions and story-gap filling?

 

[SWarsame]

Well according to historical texts and hadith, the ancient Arabs were dark skinned. Modern Arabs are mixed with the various people conquered by Islam. Infact if you speak Arabic, it is clearly stated that the colour of the Arabs is Udma (which is the colour of clay or the dark clay of Earth) and this is stated as Asmar Al Lawn or Adam (which means dark skinned).


If you understand Arabic listen to the above video and you will understand what I mean.


It makes sense since the Arabian peninsula is at maximim UV radiation all year. Why would a white skinned people live there? They didn't, that is the simple fact, they came with the almost 1000 year on off rule of Turks over the Arabs. The islamic empire was huge and the Arabian peninsula was changed drastically racially!

Arabs back them were very tribal similar to Somalis, so Bilal having a Somali mother is akin to someone Somali having a Bantu mother for example. They would still get discriminated for the mothers side.

 

[Yaquub]

Ancient arabs were racist as f*ck. Which explains some of their ppl's sick behaviour today. They hated the sudanese for some reason too.

A man of discernment said: The people of Iraq have sound minds, commendable passions,balanced natures, and high proficiency in every art, together with well-proportioned limbs, well-compounded humors, and a brown complexion (sumra al-alwān), which is the most apt and proper complexion. They are those whom the womb has well-backed, and didn’t expel them fair-skinned(ashqa), ruddy (aßhab), blanched (amhaq) or leprous colored (mughrab), such as comes from the wombs of Slav women and others like them of similar light complexion. Nor are they overcooked in the womb until they are burned, such that the child comes out between black (aswad) and pitch-black (hālik), meloodorous, stinking and crinkly-haired, with uneven limbs, deficient minds, and depraved passions, such as the Zanj, the Ethiopians (Hubsan), and those from among the Sudan who resemble them. The Iraqis are neither half-baked dough nor burned crust but between the two.

http://www.academia.edu/5259315/Abyad_and_the_Black_Arabs_Some_Clarifications

 

[Yaquub]

Then again they hated white ppl too.

Red ( al-ḥamr āʿ ) refers to non-Arabs due to their fair complexion which predominates among them. And theArabs used to say about the non-Arabs with whom white skin was characteristic, such as the Romans,Persians, and their neighbors:‘They are red-skinned ( al-ḥamr āʿ)…” al-ḥamr āʿmeans the Persians and Romans…And the Arabs attribute white skin to the slaves.

 

[SWarsame]

Then again they hated white ppl too.

Red ( al-ḥamr āʿ ) refers to non-Arabs due to their fair complexion which predominates among them. And theArabs used to say about the non-Arabs with whom white skin was characteristic, such as the Romans,Persians, and their neighbors:‘They are red-skinned ( al-ḥamr āʿ)…” al-ḥamr āʿmeans the Persians and Romans…And the Arabs attribute white skin to the slaves.

That is right, and the dark colour of Asmar or Adam was ascribed to the Arabs.

The Habasha were actually a south Arabian tribe that migrated to East Africa. But they were ruling over African Kush tribes, who were mainly Nilotic. So when you hear about racism towards the Habasha it actually refers to these people and not the Habesha themselves. The entire area of their rule and whoever they conquered was just given the name Habesha.

That is why you get things like "raisin head" which was head scarring and head shaping practices of many ancient Africans near the Sudan region. Or what modern conspiracy folks call the Annunaki