Why didn't this Maduro Supporter Answer my Question?

[Omar del Sur]

I am tired of trying to explain this and people might be tired of me anti-Maduro-posting.... however, unfortunately there is a campaign by the Bashar al-Assad and Iran supporters of the world to go and present a fake narrative to English-speakers.... to be fair, they are also presenting this garbage propaganda in Spanish but very few people in the Spanish-speaking world actually buy this nonsense.... it's a lot easier for them to sell this nonsense who don't speak the same language as Venezuelans and who aren't from the region... anyways....

let me present their garbage propaganda narrative. their narrative: "Maduro is a MAN OF THE PEOPLE.... Maduro is massively loved by the people but the CIA and US IMPERIALISM are trying to take away the communist system that Venezuelans love so very much".

I want you to know this- anyone- ESPECIALLY "BASED ANTI-GLOBOHOMO" ANONYMOUS ACCOUNTS... if you see them trying to tell you that Maduro won the election, know this- they are either shameless liars or they are clueless people who don't know what they're talking about. Almost no one who is actually Latin American believes the election was legit.

Venezuela's economy collapsed years before the US ever imposed sanctions. Communism wrecks economies. They ruin the economy then they cry about US imperialism then they call you a CIA agent and disappear you and torture you in prison if you say anything.

Nothing is ever the communist's fault. It's always the fault of some external factor. Ruin the country and then give long speeches "US bad" (without ever actually exposing anything about the US that everyone doesn't know already), wave a Palestine flag occasionally and then anyone who opposes you hates Palestinians and is a CIA agent. It's the same playbook as Iran and Bashar al-Assad. It's the exact same thing except packaged a little different for a different region.

Now let's take a look at me silencing some Maduro supporter on twitter:

notice this person's question-dodging skills and how she utterly changes the subject to something unrelated.

read their initial post and look what follows afterwards.

look at how "she" (if it is a she... Allah knows best)- look at how "she" tries to manipulate her audience..... first "she" presents herself as being on the side of the ordinary Venezuelans and "she" associates being anti-Maduro with some sort of oligarchs or whatever.... but then the moment I show up, look at how "she" resolutely avoids discussing what ordinary Venezuelans (who "she" would present "herself" as a champion of) think of Maduro... I question whether this account is actually a "she" but I do believe they are actually Latin... and so they know very well that the ordinary Venezuelans hate Maduro's guts- and that's why "she" refuses to discuss what the ordinary Venezuelans think... "she" would have to either lie or admit that Maduro is massively unpopular and hated by the masses of Venezuelans

 

[Omar del Sur]

I want to show people how disconnected and out of touch the Maduro supporters are... this twitter account is that of Residente... Residente is the lead person of a reggaeton group called Calle 13... Calle 13 is like Rage Against the Machine but in Spanish... they are leftists and they were buddies of the Venezuelan gov during the days of Hugo Chávez...

Residente is being massively laughed at- because during the Hugo Chávez time- they were massive shills for the Venezuelan government... there is footage of Hugo Chávez during one of his speeches announcing that Calle 13 will be giving a free concert in Venezuela... in support of the Venezuelan government... we could talk for more time but just to be brief- they were big shills for Hugo Chávez....

so anyways- Residente is being laughed at because now he is backtracking... but why is he backtracking?? Maduro is THAT unpopular... Residente's audience is Latin... he cannot back the pro-Maduro line because the tidal wave of regional opinion is against Maduro... so look at how these English-language Maduro supporters make bold pro-Maduro statements... while meanwhile in the Spanish-speaking world- Residente is having to backtrack and distance himself from the regime he was a shill for

(and btw this is backtracking... the Maduro line is Maduro won, period... but Residente can't sell this to a Spanish-speaking audience... also btw I saw Maduro saying basically that he can't release data on the "election" because they were hit with a cyber-attack)

 

[Omar del Sur]

here is Residente hanging out with Hugo Chávez

here he is wearing some kind of pro-Chávez t-shirt at an awards function (and what a stupid message on the shirt)

info about their free concert in support of the Venezuelan gov... https://www.elmundo.es/america/2009/10/28/gentes/1256752168.html

consider all of this in conjunction with the fact that this massive Chávez shill is now having to backtrack

 

[CABDULWALI XASAN.]

honestly i thought you would be supporting maduro in this situation, I mean I have no clue what goes on in that area of the world.

I didnt know venezuela was communist, I think youre trying to say venezuela holds a same status as iran. you were talking about how iran being hated by the west was a scam, same situation here or no? But whats weird is the media and news im watching their all calling this election fake too, its just the you know... group of 'based' twitter people blindly supporting this as against america.

its all very confusing for an outsider, probably what you feel when you see somali politics though.

Also another question, why exactly are there people supporting the regime in venezuela? I mean sure, their against america and such but why would a random twitter person dodge questions like that. Are they bots or genuine people. Wheres the fuel for this coming from, I mean once an idea gets big enough your gonna get a lot of people as you said sold by what their saying.

Have you heard about the theory about how communism transferred over to the west with the fall of the soviet union? theres this one indian youtuber who use to talk about this.

 

[CABDULWALI XASAN.]

The youtuber i'm talking about is amit sengupta, hes pro hindu - but he tells the truth, so much so that im more then certain that hes been shadowbanned

 

[Omar del Sur]

honestly i thought you would be supporting maduro in this situation, I mean I have no clue what goes on in that area of the world.

I think I understand. Some person who doesn't understand the Muslim world might cheer for Iran, Bashar al-Assad, hezbushaytaan. and they might think that we would be supporters of those elements.

I didnt know venezuela was communist, I think youre trying to say venezuela holds a same status as iran. you were talking about how iran being hated by the west was a scam, same situation here or no? But whats weird is the media and news im watching their all calling this election fake too, its just the you know... group of 'based' twitter people blindly supporting this as against america.

yes and notice these "based" twitter people... it's the same ones- they shill for Bashar al-Assad and Iran one minute and then the next they're promoting Maduro.

it's like you have a company. the company is called McDonalds. or The Axis of Resistance. and there are branches in different regions. Maduro represents the Latin America branch. Assad and Iran are representatives of the Middle Eastern branch. but it's the same company. their stores are a little different in different regions but it's the same company.

Cuba and its buddies like Venezuela- they say some very anti-US sounding things in their speeches. "death to America" rhetoric- but what do they actually DO that opposes the US?? they don't ever actually fight the US but they are ferocious lions when it comes to killing Latin Americans.

its all very confusing for an outsider, probably what you feel when you see somali politics though.

yes I don't even try to understand Somali politics.

Also another question, why exactly are there people supporting the regime in venezuela?

Maduro supporters and Iran supporters tend to be the same people. I think they're clueless duped people. you say some anti-US stuff, the US gov says some things against you, you wave a Palestine flag- boom, you are a hero in these people's eyes. I think these people have a very childish understanding of things. the US says some things against Bashar al-Assad, Assad says some pro-Palestine comments- this person goes on twitter and posts "BASED Assad". meanwhile the actual Arabs hate Assad's guts. then Maduro says some pro-Palestine comment. the same person posts "BASED Maduro". meanwhile the overwhelming majority of Latin Americans who aren't apolitical housewives or something- the overwhelming majority hate Maduro's guts.

I mean sure, their against america and such but why would a random twitter person dodge questions like that. Are they bots or genuine people.

bots. shills. clueless morons. I think it's a coalition.

Have you heard about the theory about how communism transferred over to the west with the fall of the soviet union? theres this one indian youtuber who use to talk about this.

Communism definitely infiltrated Western society. It's a different version of communism than the Soviet or Latin version. And I would argue this began much earlier than the USSR collapse. I think it was going on when they went after Joseph McCarthy.

 

[Omar del Sur]

look at this... if this is true... and remember- Chavismo does come from and was based in the Venezuelan military (of course-the Venezuelan military was not traditionally communist but Chavismo does originate from communist subversion in the military, Chávez was from the military)... if what is claimed is true- the Maduro government has used torture against one of its own high-ranking military people

(to be fair Univision is based in the US and is a pro-US outlet.... but frankly I believe them, commies are capable of anything)

edit: just to add- I am fed up with Maduro and I think Latin American countries at some point should get together and invade Cuba and Venezuela. those governments would deserve it. they hurt their own people and cause problems for the region. they've even done things like support armed communist guerrillas in other Latin countries- so they'd have no grounds to cry about interference. Latin American resistance to imperialism has existed before there was ever a communist government in the region. Anti-imperialism doesn't need communist garbage ideology.

I believe two axioms as far as Venezuela

1- the government has to be removed.
2- there is no peaceful solution.

Latin American countries especially in South America are being flooded with Venezuelans fleeing that country. those Venezuelans are bringing crime. super serious violent crime. of course not all of them are like that- but those elements are embedded within the refugee flow. I think Latin countries and Venezuelan opposition (which is the vast majority of Venezuela's population and its diaspora) should remove the Venezuelan government by force. I don't believe there's any peaceful solution. they have disarmed the general Venezuelan population and armed to the teeth the pro-government minority. they are maintaining power through brute force and terrorizing their own population, they deserve to be removed with force.

 

[Omar del Sur]

this is from Argentina. according to the image above- we are looking at 1,652 torture victims. More than 300 murdered in protests. 39 forced disappearances. this is the kind of thing we're looking at. socialism vs capitalist economics is one thing..,. but disappearing and torturing people on this kind of scale... this is something I'm used to hearing about if we're talking about drug cartels, this is really serious.

some of the Argentinians on TV are talking about invading Venezuela. everything is not about the US. the whole world doesn't revolve around the US and its needs and politics and history. Argentina has its own legitimate reasons to fight Maduro. tons of Venezuelans are fleeing into Argentina and it's a national security issue for Argentina as one of them rightly pointed out. I don't think the Argentinians will really invade them but I think they should.

the Cuba and Venezuela govs are lions when it comes to torturing and otherwise terrorizing their own people. but I believe they are made of glass and would break into a thousand pieces upon contact with any real outside military force. I think there are many more Venezuelans ready to risk their lives to fight their government than to fight for their government.

 

[Vacelere]

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this is from Argentina. according to the image above- we are looking at 1,652 torture victims. More than 300 murdered in protests. 39 forced disappearances. this is the kind of thing we're looking at. socialism vs capitalist economics is one thing..,. but disappearing and torturing people on this kind of scale... this is something I'm used to hearing about if we're talking about drug cartels, this is really serious.

some of the Argentinians on TV are talking about invading Venezuela. everything is not about the US. the whole world doesn't revolve around the US and its needs and politics and history. Argentina has its own legitimate reasons to fight Maduro. tons of Venezuelans are fleeing into Argentina and it's a national security issue for Argentina as one of them rightly pointed out. I don't think the Argentinians will really invade them but I think they should.

the Cuba and Venezuela govs are lions when it comes to torturing and otherwise terrorizing their own people. but I believe they are made of glass and would break into a thousand pieces upon contact with any real outside military force. I think there are many more Venezuelans ready to risk their lives to fight their government than to fight for their government.

I can see you know alot about Latin America. Mashallah

I know that during the cold war the USA supported dictators in south and Central America as long they stayed anti communism but why America now don't do the same and stage a real coup in Cuba and Venezuela.
Like they know how to overthrow far away nations so why they don't do it in nations very close to them geographically.

Mudaro is hated by his people and Fidel Castro is long dead so why didn't America use this chance to place pro western leaders on seat of power.

 

[Omar del Sur]

I can see you know alot about Latin America. Mashallah

I know that during the cold war the USA supported dictators in south and Central America as long they stayed anti communism but why America now don't do the same and stage a real coup in Cuba and Venezuela.
Like they know how to overthrow far away nations so why they don't do it in nations very close to them geographically.

Mudaro is hated by his people and Fidel Castro is long dead so why didn't America use this chance to place pro western leaders on seat of power.

I think the US is weak as far as Latin America. Weaker than people would think.

Trump antagonized Mexico and Mexico responded- and not loudly but quietly. AMLO took power in Mexico and Mexico quietly became an anti-Western country. People may have seen that I was vocally China-leaning back then and people accused me of being a Chinese shill. I think it would have been more accurate to accuse me of being a shill for the Mexican government of AMLO, it was very much in line with AMLO's anti-Western revolution in Mexico.

I bring up Mexico because Mexico is a big player in the region. Mexico and Brazil are under leftist Cuba and Venezuela leaning governments. Colombia, Honduras, Bolivia, Nicaragua- them too.

Then much of the left in the US sympathizes with Latin American communists. Then the US is full of Latin people and and the US Latin community is dominated by Mexicans. Mexicans are inherently anti US imperialism. Mexicans can not sit back and accept US military intervention in LatAm. Even if Venezuelans would want US intervention, Mexicans would have to fight it tooth and nail if the US really attacked Venezuela.

Then the US is tangled up in being a slave of yahud and focusing more on Middle East than its own continent. You can track the increasing yahudi domination of the US with US foreign policy (specifically, US imperialism) shifting its focus from LatAm to the Middle East.

Latin communists have a strong hand at the moment. I think the time to remove the government in Cuba would have been when the Soviet Union fell.

Venezuela slash Cuba type leftism is extremely militaristic. Venezuela has a "civic military alliance" (ie it is basically a military dictatorship that larps as a democracy). I don't think the US is removing Maduro short of outright invasion. I of course support an outside invasion of Venezuela but by Venezuela's Latin American brother countries and not by the US.

 

[altrae]

honestly i thought you would be supporting maduro in this situation, I mean I have no clue what goes on in that area of the world.

I didnt know venezuela was communist, I think youre trying to say venezuela holds a same status as iran. you were talking about how iran being hated by the west was a scam, same situation here or no? But whats weird is the media and news im watching their all calling this election fake too, its just the you know... group of 'based' twitter people blindly supporting this as against america.

its all very confusing for an outsider, probably what you feel when you see somali politics though.

Also another question, why exactly are there people supporting the regime in venezuela? I mean sure, their against america and such but why would a random twitter person dodge questions like that. Are they bots or genuine people. Wheres the fuel for this coming from, I mean once an idea gets big enough your gonna get a lot of people as you said sold by what their saying.

Have you heard about the theory about how communism transferred over to the west with the fall of the soviet union? theres this one indian youtuber who use to talk about this.

It's not very surprising if it's a scam considering how much media and news out there is fake and the amount of conspiracys that exist out there. The election is probably rigged.