Which civilization was more impressive?

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  1. Ancient Mesopotamia

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  2. Ancient Egypt

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  1. land owner

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    I’ve heard that ancient Mesopotamia offered much more with inventions and discoveries, what do you guys think?
     
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  2. CaliTedesse

    CaliTedesse صومال ابن كوش

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    It was a hard one , but will have to go with Egypt.
     
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  3. Apollo

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    Ancient Mesopotamia because they had more ''firsts'' while Ancient Egypt build upon Mesopotamian findings.

    On the other hand, Ancient Egypt had more impressive buildings.
     
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  4. southside

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    i appreciate mesopotamia more

    ''Writing

    Perhaps the most important advance made by the Mesopotamians was the invention of writing by the Sumerians. Go here to learn more about Sumerian writing. With the invention of writing came the first recorded laws called Hammurabi's Code as well as the first major piece of literature called the Epic Tale of Gilgamesh.

    The Wheel

    Although archeologists don't know for sure who invented the wheel, the oldest wheel discovered was found in Mesopotamia. It is likely the Sumer first used the wheel in making pottery in 3500BC and then used it for their chariots in around 3200 BC.

    Mathematics

    The Mesopotamians used a number system with the base 60 (like we use base 10). They divided time up by 60s including a 60 second minute and a 60 minute hour, which we still use today. They also divided up the circle into 360 degrees.
    They had a wide knowledge of mathematics including addition, subtraction, multiplication, division, quadratic and cubic equations, and fractions. This was important in keeping track of records as well as in some of their large building projects.

    The Mesopotamians had formulas for figuring out the circumference and area for different geometric shapes like rectangles, circles, and triangles. Some evidence suggests that they even knew the Pythagorean Theorem long before Pythagoras wrote it down. They may have even discovered the number for pi in figuring the circumference of a circle.

    Astronomy

    Using their advanced math, the Mesopotamian astronomers were able to follow the movements of the stars, planets, and the Moon. One major achievement was the ability to predict the movements of several planets. This took logic, mathematics, and a scientific process.
    By studying the phases of the Moon, the Mesopotamians created the first calendar. It had 12 lunar months and was the predecessor for both the Jewish and Greek calendars.

    Medicine

    The Babylonians made several advances in medicine. They used logic and recorded medical history to be able to diagnose and treat illnesses with various creams and pills.

    Technology


    The Mesopotamians made many technological discoveries. They were the first to use the potter's wheel to make better pottery, they used irrigation to get water to their crops, they used bronze metal (and later iron metal) to make strong tools and weapons, and used looms to weave cloth from wool.

    Interesting Facts About Mesopotamian Technology
    • The Walls of Babylon were once considered one of the Seven Ancient Wonders of the World. There were actually two massive walls that surrounded the entire city. Archeologists estimate that the walls were over 50 miles long with each wall being around 23 feet wide and 35 feet tall. There were also massive towers at intervals along the wall that may have been hundreds of feet tall.
    • The Mesopotamians may have invented the simple machine called the Archimedes' Screw. This would have helped to raise water to the heights needed for the plants in the famous Hanging Gardens of Babylon.
    • The Assyrians developed glasswork as well as glazes for pottery and art to help it last longer.
    • Eighteen different canals have been found that brought water to the Assyrian Empire capital of Nineveh.''
     
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  5. Timo Jareer and proud

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    Egypt cause I gotta rep my Hamitic brothas.
     
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  6. land owner

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    But sumeria sounds like somalia :banderas:
     
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  7. Pseudo-A'staramaia

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    Mesopotamia was a collection of peoples, its civilization had its beginnings in the Sumerians of the protohistoric Uruk era. However alot, and arguebly most of its fame comes when the Tigris and Euphrates floodplains were settled and its urban culture adopted by migrating waves of nomadic pastoral East Semitic tribes of the proto Akkadians and Eblaites, arriving eastwards from the Levantine and Sinai into the lower fertile crescent following the end tails of the Sumerian dominated Uruk period of Mesopotamia

    Semitic infiltration and demographic takeover of Mesopotamia reached its peak under the migration of the NW Semitic Amurru, arriving from northern Syrian who further Semitized the many of the famous Mesopotamian civilizational centrepeices and hallmarks left behind by the Akkadian Neo-Assyrian Empire and lower Mesopotamia, and established their own in turn, such as Babylon

    This is not similar to Egypt.

    Egypt was created and powered by the Egyptians and no one else. Foriegners came from all diections over several thousands of years, and were always doomed to be swallowed by Egyptian demographic and SE dominance. Mesopotamia was trampled under the many various and mostly Semitic conquering ethnic groups who arrived from all direction, who imposed themselves and made the Mesopotamian majority encultrate to their languages, identities, and cultures

    Egypt was a single state for most of its history, inhabited by a single ethnic group. Mesopotamia is only a civilizational network settled by many different ethnicities and ruled by a multitude of states

    The two couldn't be more different for this comparison, because they are not equivalents

    Per capita, Egypt was far superior. Their time span, deep civilizational memory and legacy outshines that of Mesopotamia. The ruins of the many fabled cities of the Akkadian, Amorite, Babylonian, and Sumerian haven't been found, while the Great Pyramid was the tallest and biggest structure for most of recorded human history
     
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    Egypt is the Crown Jewel of Africa.
    :win:
     
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  10. Pseudo-A'staramaia

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    Kkkkk

    I'm honored brother
     
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