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What would a system of governance look like that would be accepted and trusted by most if not all Somalis?

caano_shaah

Male/Pan-Somalist
Obviously most Somalis are not happy with how the official government is currently operating and how the country is still politically divided. I'm curious, aside from the widespread corruption that needs to be eradicated, what else needs to happen that could bring all Somalis together under one flag and on the same page. I want to hear your thoughts and opinions.
 
Confederalims Fedralism seems the only thing that somalis can all agree with., but we need to work with what something actually work this sort of clan federalism as it currently exist cant work, i think we should do a 3 way confederalism Somaliand Puntland And Southern Somalia , 3 way confedralism. but Puntland should include galguduud and anything south of galguduud be one state so then we have multi clan confedralism , i think that could work. then you have southern somalia being rahanweyn dir hawiye and darood, and you have puntland with darood and central hawiye and dir and you have Somaliland with isaaq dir and darood., 3 way and we should have 3 capitals. galkacyo mogadishu and hargeisa.,we should also keep 3 different armies in the begening and then later transform them just into police and then have a giant army
 
somalis back home can't be trusted to do anything, a good system with actual accountability and fair representation would probably even be opposed by most parties back home :ftw9nwa:
 

Garaad Awal

Former African
Confederalims Fedralism seems the only thing that somalis can all agree with., but we need to work with what something actually work this sort of clan federalism as it currently exist cant work, i think we should do a 3 way confederalism Somaliand Puntland And Southern Somalia , 3 way confedralism. but Puntland should include galguduud and anything south of galguduud be one state so then we have multi clan confedralism , i think that could work. then you have southern somalia being rahanweyn dir hawiye and darood, and you have puntland with darood and central hawiye and dir and you have Somaliland with isaaq dir and darood., 3 way and we should have 3 capitals. galkacyo mogadishu and hargeisa.,we should also keep 3 different armies in the begening and then later transform them just into police and then have a giant army
Somaliland will never come back. I don’t understand why you Somalians can’t get that through your head. There will never be a day that piece of shit flag of yours will fly over Hargeisa
 
Somaliland will never come back. I don’t understand why you Somalians can’t get that through your head. There will never be a day that piece of shit flag of yours will fly over Hargeisa


its not about the flag , u can keep your flag but you will be ruled from Mogadishu u never left ur declaration of independence is null and void, so u never went away,, and ictraaf isnt comming.
 
Hand the country over to cadaan, Yacquub Farey perhaps. Somalis don’t seem to mind being ruled by the white man as long as it’s not a Somali. Indian, Chinese and Arabs won’t do either as Somalis view them as beneath themselves, soft, and just a middle man to the white man who rules all. Isn’t that right Dr Osman aka Dr Strange?
doctor strange animation GIF by PBS Digital Studios
 
Hand the country over to cadaan, Yacquub Farey perhaps. Somalis don’t seem to mind being ruled by the white man as long as it’s not a Somali. Indian, Chinese and Arabs won’t do either as Somalis view them as beneath themselves, soft, and just a middle man to the white man who rules all. Isn’t that right Dr Osman aka Dr Strange?
doctor strange animation GIF by PBS Digital Studios

Actually its not a bad idea. I mean it would have been great if Somalia could be part of the USA mawlana Donald trump as president Somalia being part of America that would be great from a legal point of view it can be done .
 

Karim

I could agree with you but then we’d both be wrong
HALYEEY
VIP
Any system of governance that doesn't contradict the religion can work in Somalia but do the corrupt politicians want to even get together and establish institutions that can last centuries?! Nope.
 
Actually its not a bad idea. I mean it would have been great if Somalia could be part of the USA mawlana Donald trump as president Somalia being part of America that would be great from a legal point of view it can be done .
Not Trump lol he is just like Somali politicians, foul mouthed Tuugo. He is no better than Faysal Faaruq.
 
Judge-based Sharia law, where we divide Somalia into different local regions and rotate judges into each area, with them choosing a first among equals to be the head of state.

Confederalism is pretty much like a friends-with-benefits type of relationship. If Somalia balkanizes, anyone who believes that those smaller states will somehow unite in an EU-style deal is delusional, simply because border disputes are going to be a day-one issue and wherever you draw the line, someone’s going to be angry.

Any type of democratic system needs to be coded against tribalism. I’d probably implement single transferable votes for the presidency, so the election is won by the candidate we collectively agree is the least bad option. Parliament would need a two-thirds majority to pass anything, simply to make it impossible for two clans to monopolize power.

I’d probably make the Somali Supreme Court the last vestige of 4.5 and give it veto power over any legislation only if it has the explicit and intended effect of disadvantaging any specific Somali community based on tribal characteristics. This could include anything from building coal power plants exclusively in Jeraarweyne areas to disproportionate investment in certain regions, etc.

By wanting to eliminate tribalism, you often end up reinforcing it. You can either delude yourself into tribal colorblindness, or we can craft our system to deal with it directly.
 
the problem we dont have one strong clan that can dominate all the others other african countries have one group that dominates in kenya u have kikuyu that run the show in ethiopia it was the amhara, its shifting towards the gallas but thes gallas are hybrad amhara to

djibouti we have the issas
in eritrea the tigrinyas
in ghana we have the akkkan
in senegal the wolof
the south africans we have the zulu

in the past we had the daaroods being the true kings of somalia
but they have been pushed asside by hawiye and isaaq, but hawiye and isaaq cant agree on somalia to so we have city states now
 

Garaad Awal

Former African
its not about the flag , u can keep your flag but you will be ruled from Mogadishu u never left ur declaration of independence is null and void, so u never went away,, and ictraaf isnt comming.
Ruled from Xamar. Keep dreaming bud. We are independent and there’s nothing xamarawi western implants can do about it. Whether we get international recognition or not, we will never be ruled by Hutus & Jabartis. Again, that just goes back to my earlier point. Walanweyns like you are delusional and don’t understand Isaaqs. We will never accept surrendering our independence.
 

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